[ SECRET POST #336 ]

[degrees.livejournal.com]

⌈ Secret Post #336 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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Notes:

Out again, Christmas shopping/making a buttload of cookies! You know what to do!

Last day to submit for next week!

Secrets Left to Post: 00 pages, 00 secrets from Secret Submission Post #048.
Secrets Not Posted: 0 broken links, [ 1 ] not!secret, [ 1 ] not!fandom, [ 1 ] repeat.
Next Secret Post: Tomorrow, Saturday, December 7th, 2007.
Current Secret Submission Post: here.
Suggestions, comments, and concerns should go here.

Comments

Re: 38

[(Anonymous)]

38 OP here. I'm not too high on 'Spresso, but apparently I'm still going to join (damn you all, commenting "JOIN US JOIN US!" and enticing me so! How can I possibly say no? D=). You're getting Long Haul.

[purple-kama.livejournal.com]

26. I beg to differ. Once I found a Chie/Aoi fic from Mai-HiME, but it was more boring than watching paint dry, so I had to ditch it before the end.
But maybe... in other cases...

[rhosyn-du.livejournal.com]

12. I so thoroughly sympathize. I can no longer see numbers without thinking about pairings. Especially while playing cards. Totally ruins my poker face.

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[(Anonymous)]

People like you are the reason I'll never write slash, even if I do like a samesex pairing or four.

Re: 37

[relmneiko.livejournal.com]

I've been tallying up how many people have said this to me. If I make it to twenty I'll reward myself with an ice cream cone!!

[(Anonymous)]

Uhm. Is there a reason why a secret was never posted?

I submitted it Saturday, and it was never in the lists of ommissions...

[(Anonymous)]

chill, dumbass. it's not saturday yet. it may be in the batch to be posted tomorrow.

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[kyaa.livejournal.com]

GUYS I WANT IN ON THE GOSSIP WHAT DID HE SAY??

Re: 45

[relmneiko.livejournal.com]

http://community.livejournal.com/dears/1442524.html

[kyaa.livejournal.com]

oh and not!fandom

"NOT!!" is so 90's, man. I kinda cringe every time I hear it nowadays

[galerian-ash.livejournal.com]

03. Whoa. It took me a long time to realize that the two in the background were actually Cloak and Dagger. WTF did Marvel do to them?! Dagger's outfit has always been a bit... you know. But this one just plain doesn't work.

07. God, what a heartbreaker. *big hugs*

08. ILU

09. LOL! Can I have the Cortina then? :D

15. Kind of unrelated, sorry, BUT GOD I WISH THE FANSUB FOR ASHITA NO NADJA WOULD BE FINISHED SOMETIME SOON. I gave up on it, like, two years ago -- but I still find myself checking its status every now and again.

23. A+ for using the word "fornicating" XDb

26. I think we all do that, don't we?

30. I don't know what series that is, but seriously; don't deny your love for something just because you're afraid people will shun you! That's just sad, and you're probably missing out on a lot of fun. Everyone has different opinions on what's bad and what's not, and besides, I love watching bad stuff -- it's just plain fun, you know? :D

35. Whoever told you otherwise is an ass.

37. I'm confused... I'm not familiar with all of these girls, but some of them I know go rather strongly against that concept.

42. Y'know, that'd kinda be a hot pairing... I admit to being confused over the fact that you sound as if there's an active fandom -- WHERE?!

44. Out of curiousity, if you like the fanfics for these pairs to be AU and borderline OOC -- why bother in the first place? Just read something else! The only thing you're retaining from the original characters anyway is their looks, right?

45. Thank you for saying that.

46. I've gotten my stories recced twice (one time for a fanfic, another for an original) -- I don't think I've ever felt that fulfilled and proud in my entire life, as pathetic as that might sound. So yeah, I know how you feel!

47. CAN'T. STOP. LAUGHING. And dear God, what is that green cucumber-like thing on top of the icecream?

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[toxictattoo.livejournal.com]

[blubbers]

You mean...their looks shouldn't be the only reason you write a pairing and you actually need to have like...characterization and everything?

You ask for too much.

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[peachy-ewan-muf.livejournal.com]

14. I can understand you not liking Heroes, because it's really not that original. Then again, not much is anymore. But that's not my point. My point is, I don't think people like the show because of Hiro. I mean, if he was OMG HOTTTT I'd understand that. . But no. In fact, I don't see much love for Hiro in the fandom at all, compared to other characters.

Re: 14

[(Anonymous)]

not the op

I see it all the time, and saw it especially at the beginning. while wank was going on about the rest of the characters, everyone pretty much agreed Hiro and Ando were the cutest things since rainbows and kittens.

[overlimits.livejournal.com]

37. I'm um. Going to try not to be blinded by nerd-rage here, and ask you an honest question. You write slash because you hate the 'traditional' role of women. Okay, that's a little faulty logic, but maybe-sorta-kinda your heart is in the right place there. I think you picked some awful examples of that kind of woman, but I digress.

My question is this: if you're angry at the way that women are subverted and dominated by men, how in the world is placing men on a pedestal and making them out to be better than women going to help the situation?

[cftf.livejournal.com]

Buttsex solves all problems, duh.

Why would you use something so stupid as LOGIC, really?

[rainbloom.livejournal.com]

24. I think I dislike this.

[(Anonymous)]

How so?

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[(Anonymous)]

way to miss the whole point of the aesthetic, OP.

Re: 37

[relmneiko.livejournal.com]

I wish I'd just left the whole Yamato thing out and posted the pictures of the chicks. It's obscuring my point horribly...

[diefbaby.livejournal.com]

#4 - Oh I know just what you mean. My friend told me to have the tissues ready when I watched that episode - I was so glad I did. I cried SO hard when his final message to her was cut off.

[teostra.livejournal.com]

14. ILU ♥ I was saying this exactly, like, yesterday

37. AHAHAHA. I write slash because I like slash, I don't need to pretend I'm being a feminist when I do so.

[convault]

I WANT TO DO CASE UP THE ASS IN THE MIDDLE OF WINTER WITH AND AUDIENCE OF CONSTRUCTION WORKERS

[case]

HAHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHha gbjadfhkfkvh

[powercorrupts.livejournal.com]

14. Yeah, because everyone who watches Heroes likes Hiro? Uh... what? I haven't watched tv in years, because I just haven't seen anything I liked enough to bother watching consistantly. And then I saw Heroes. And it appealed to the interest in superheroes that I'd thought was long dead, and it simultaneously appealed to my interest in subdued, modern day heroes. The whole show is cliche and a common idea, sure, but as a television show, it's actually pretty novel. And hokey? I'm sorry, compared to, say, Smallville? Sure, Heroes isn't the greatest thing ever, but it doesn't mean a person has no taste if they like it.

You're entitled to your opinion, but what a dick way to say it. I hope everything you watch on tv get cancelled too. =D


35. Don't you love the idea that a woman with a broken hymen is somehow a completely different creature? Oh society, go eat a dick.


37. While I'll agree that there are some characters on there that struck me as subservient, loving, ideal housewife-girlfriend walking vaginas, there's a few that really aren't a good example of your point. I'll go for an easy target and elaborate on one. I think you missed the part where Aeris grows up in a dystopian slum and carries a large stick around, and has a tendency to drag Cloud around. I don't know where she's demure or subservient except in appearance, and if you're going to peg all small, long-haired women as being like that, well then, shit son.

Disliking stereotypical female characters is what initially led me to liking slash, I'll confess, but after a while, I realized that I was trying too hard to see the stereotype sometimes and it blinded me to liking characters who honestly weren't stereotypical, weren't any of the things I thought they were. I was just trying so hard to find a reason to slash their canon love interests that I was bypassing them for no reason. And you know, that sort of behavior is one of those reasons that slash fangirls get a reputation of being 12 years old and too sexist to see good female characters. When I went back and evaluated all the characters that I thought were just some lonely guy trying to write his ideal girlfriend, I found that some number of them were actually unique, interesting, and strong characters.

Maybe I'm just applying my teenage years onto you, because all I have to go off is your secret, but there's my tl;dr anyways. And maybe the anime industry in particular has changed, but it seems sometimes like there's less ideal housewife girlfriends these days than there were when I very first got into it.

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[(Anonymous)]

Agree

[dragoon1940.livejournal.com]

38:

Join us. You know you want to.

[ruffwriter.livejournal.com]

37. ... um. Tear's a what, now?

[relmneiko.livejournal.com]

Okay, I admit it. I just included her because I don't like her after what happened to Luke in you-know-where after you-know-what blew up. Actually, that event made me pretty much hate everyone except Mieu. She's not the best example, she's just a love interest with a staff so a stuck her in to fill space.

7,23,30, 41

[odd-on-purpose.livejournal.com]

7: Please think about talking someone about this. Please.

23: Nooo! Well okay, I admit he is a total asshole, and yet somehow I find him unbelievably freaking attractive. fishlips and all.

30, 41: These two are so related for me, in that I know they're both *objectively* bad but I love them so much that when someone else asks me about them I have a hard time expressing myself other than a ridiculously embarrassing line of squees and "omg!!!!11"s.

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[(Anonymous)]

This bothers you?
Grow up.
Get a life outside of fandom.
There are real problems out there that actually have an effect on your life.

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[loveotter.livejournal.com]

That's a real assholish blanket statement to make about Heroes fans. Seriously, what is wrong with you?

[doxinator.livejournal.com]

8. Yeeeeeaaahhh that kind of annoys me too, to be honest.

29. I don't think she's hideous OR hot, I think she's average (though I tend to think that about everyone, so lol). And there's nothin' wrong with that.
Though really, her looks have nothing to do with why I like her.

37. I admit to not liking a lot of the females on there (or at least the ones I recognize. Also, Yuna is an exception), but I'm nnnnooot really seeing why that has anything to do with writing slash (you write about men boinking each other so you don't have to deal with the girls, despite how they're still part of the team and everything?). Though this is probably a troll or something, so whatever.

OP of 37

[relmneiko.livejournal.com]

I really wasn't intending to troll when I first posted. I think my point was rather obscured - which was, basically, that I find the stereotype boring.

Perhaps you're right on it having nothing to do with the slash, though... I'm probably scapegoating these women because I don't like them.

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[pacificpikachu.livejournal.com]

18. OKAY, WHO ON MY F-LIST WROTE THIS SO I DIDN'T HAVE TO?

Re: 18.

[crackjaw.livejournal.com]

IT WASN'T ME THIS TIME

[flutingfrenzy.livejournal.com]

8. The problem is that people say it over the stupidest things. You once wrote a Mary Sue? Get out of my fandom! You thought the wrong couple was going to happen in canon? Get out of my fandom! I mean, I get wishing that an annoying wanker would just shut up already, but wanting them to go away entirely is totally unnecessary. Anyway, what's with this "my fandom" business? Unless, like, you're a celebrity and the fandom is for you, personally.

25. ...Have fun with that. No, seriously, I wish you all the best. Talk about obscure, though...

29. Well, I think she's beautiful. :)

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[amergina.livejournal.com]

I love Moonlight in all it's cheesy glory! :D Nothing wrong with that.

Re: 30

[twilightedge.livejournal.com]

Hey, you're a Moonlight fan too. Awesome. =D