ext_33427 ([identity profile] degrees.livejournal.com) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2007-12-07 04:00 pm

[ SECRET POST #336 ]


⌈ Secret Post #336 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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Notes:

Out again, Christmas shopping/making a buttload of cookies! You know what to do!

Last day to submit for next week!

Secrets Left to Post: 00 pages, 00 secrets from Secret Submission Post #048.
Secrets Not Posted: 0 broken links, [ 1 ] not!secret, [ 1 ] not!fandom, [ 1 ] repeat.
Next Secret Post: Tomorrow, Saturday, December 7th, 2007.
Current Secret Submission Post: here.
Suggestions, comments, and concerns should go here.

[identity profile] avianthropy.livejournal.com 2007-12-08 02:03 am (UTC)(link)
31. OMG LEGENDIA SECRET. Uh... I really don't think who was more "feminine" had anything to do with it in the game, though. :\

37. Old excuse is old. Please be a troll.

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[identity profile] grazie.livejournal.com 2007-12-08 02:05 am (UTC)(link)
Cry moar.

Seriously, get the fuck over it. There are other, strong female characters.

You write slash because you like slash. Stop trying to blame your likes on pseudo feminism.

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[identity profile] tulleskirt.livejournal.com 2007-12-09 02:47 am (UTC)(link)
Iawtc so hard. Goddamn.

(Anonymous) 2007-12-08 02:08 am (UTC)(link)
37. I wonder why people get so worked on this secret. Is being a Yamato Nadeshiko is a bad thing? I think it's great to be one!

[identity profile] yui-hime.livejournal.com 2007-12-08 02:14 am (UTC)(link)
IAWTC. It worked for several thousand years, didn't it?

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lol anthro 101 ftw

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[identity profile] nirvana-blues.livejournal.com 2007-12-08 02:13 am (UTC)(link)
I never believed that happiness was going to be handed to me on a silver platter, even if I did love Disney as a kid.

Stop blaming your problems on the media. You are responsible for how you act and think, not some movie you saw when you were seven.
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(Anonymous) 2007-12-08 04:58 am (UTC)(link)
I think I worded the secret badly, because everyone seems to be misunderstanding. And I regret that.

But it's a general pet theory, it doesn't cover every person in the universe, and it doesn't cover every reaction. And I never said I was blaming them for my problems, either. Just making an observation. And I'm not ignorant of what you're advising.

[identity profile] somatosensation.livejournal.com 2007-12-08 02:16 am (UTC)(link)
8. I have been one of those people who has shouted "GET OUT OF MY FANDOM."

And while I do agree that fandom is for everyone, the person that I said it to was moving in on it just for attention, not because she loves the series THAT MUCH. I felt that she was getting into the fandom for the wrong reasons, and everytime I saw her making some sort of comment related to the fandom just to get attention from me and my friends, I started to hate the fandom just a little more.

[identity profile] makigai-snail.livejournal.com 2007-12-08 02:26 am (UTC)(link)
icon love!

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[identity profile] makigai-snail.livejournal.com 2007-12-08 02:25 am (UTC)(link)
7. :( *hug*

20. Congrats on being free!

26. Oy, totally. Desperate times call for desperate measures.

...y'know, if one calls wanting fic desperate. :D;

28. He was fantastic as Barty Crouch Jr. ♥

[identity profile] moebot.livejournal.com 2007-12-08 02:28 am (UTC)(link)
This round is a whole lot of

[identity profile] callmejude.livejournal.com 2007-12-08 02:29 am (UTC)(link)
14. I've never watched Heroes, so I don't have an opinion on the show itself, but I can't help but ALWAYS be annoyed when people whine about how they hate a fandom and hope it gets cancelled or whatever. News flash, dude. If you don't like it, DON'T WATCH IT. No one's forcing you to turn it on or read it's fanfiction. Get a grip and let the fans have their fun. Jesus.

28. This secret made me want to cry. Not so much because you replaced them in your fangirling with Barty Jr., just because it reminded me of the ending of the book. D:

30. XD My friends and I love that show because it reminds us of Twilight, which we have a total love hate relationship with (so obviously we love/hate the show, too) We mock its cheesyness and predictable plot lines, but we hate missing it far too much to be healthy. It's funny, really.

35. Aww, this secret made me smile. :) That's so sweet.
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(Anonymous) 2007-12-08 02:30 am (UTC)(link)
2. How annoying for you...I do think it's important to be clear with your views, and stand for them. Good luck.

18. I've been meaning to watch this for a while...few people are watching it but those who do are all saying how great it is. Maybe it gets overlooked because it doesn't look flash enough?

35. What kind of "innocence" are you wishing for? I don't think a Disney princess is the best of role models...

37. I'm sorry you get so much anger directed at you. People get upset if you imply something negative about a beloved character. I understand your frustration with sexist female stereotypes, but why would it drive you to write slash? How about writing fics with cool girls instead?

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[identity profile] pacificpikachu.livejournal.com 2007-12-08 03:17 am (UTC)(link)
Do watch Dennou Coil! You'll love it--I promise. It's AMAZING.

BUT I AM

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[identity profile] grazie.livejournal.com 2007-12-08 02:31 am (UTC)(link)
I-is that Ken Hidaka.

Holy shit, it is.

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[identity profile] farasha.livejournal.com 2007-12-08 03:25 am (UTC)(link)
D: D: D: I just scrolled up and recognized him too.

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[identity profile] twilightedge.livejournal.com 2007-12-08 02:34 am (UTC)(link)
17. I ship Haruka/Minako. It's pretty rare but I'm glad to see our ships are similar.

18. You've made me interested in this show. I'll have to research it now. =)

30. I love you. Moonlight is one of my favorite shows. It's the good kind of cheesy, for me at least. I don't understand Buffy but I understand this show. =D

43. I have a degree in studio arts in painting and I ask myself that every time I see people freaking out over bad anime art, or anime art in general. I don't create fan art and it seems that's the only thing that will give someone internet popularity; that or pretty/sexy women.

Not the OP

[identity profile] pacificpikachu.livejournal.com 2007-12-08 03:18 am (UTC)(link)
18. Go watch it, go watch it, go watch it! It doesn't have nearly enough fans, and it's freaking AMAZING. *____*

17 & 18 OP

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[identity profile] clash-radio.livejournal.com 2007-12-08 02:37 am (UTC)(link)
I wanna give 7 a hug. But you seriously need to talk to someone. :/

also, 37 sounds like a thinly veiled "they-get-in-the-way-of-butsecks" secret. Oh wait, it IS a thinly veiled "they-get-in-the-way-of-butsecks" secret! :DD

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[identity profile] ggmoonycrisco.livejournal.com 2007-12-08 02:47 am (UTC)(link)
29. Well yeah, that's because you picked a really horrible picture of her to use. All the old official art is pretty wonky. But it gets better! Look!! http://www.court-records.net/arts/OA%20-%20Mia%20long.jpg

By the way, when people bitch about her boobs, I get sad. Because large breasts makes you a slut, totally. >_> Mia's boobs have a power you mortals cannot even begin to comprehend.

37. Or, you know, you could... write some better female characters?

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[identity profile] pyrasaur.livejournal.com 2007-12-08 02:49 am (UTC)(link)
Everyone knows her D-cups are FULL OF JUSTICE.

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[identity profile] pyrasaur.livejournal.com 2007-12-08 02:49 am (UTC)(link)
29) What?! I can understand (somehow) that not everybody'd hit her like the fist of an angry Thinker statue, but ... actively unattractive? W-what kind of world--

...No, really, this (http://www.court-records.net/arts/postcard_16.png)?!

[identity profile] ensuing.livejournal.com 2007-12-08 02:54 am (UTC)(link)
18. Why people pass up this series is beyond me. In my opinion, it's like a Miyazaki film made into a tv series. Pretty, great story, awesome character, with the addition of a whole lot of awesome technology. Plus! Paku Romi voices Haraken, who is adorable and awesome and @# R)^BCQ#(N. Also, OP, Denpa? I totally agree. Totally. Love that boy.

34. I'd also like to thank Anon for this. ♥

[identity profile] crackjaw.livejournal.com 2007-12-08 04:20 am (UTC)(link)
18. Hi, can I friend you? It is my goal in life to friend all the Dennou Coil fans I can find (SHUT UP THIS IS A VALID GOAL WE NEED TO BAND TOGETHER). ANYWAY IAWTC sooo much it hurts, including the Miyazaki sentiment (I always described it that way!). Yeah.

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(Anonymous) 2007-12-08 03:00 am (UTC)(link)
Reading your secret actually made me feel a lot less alone. I'm another sibling incest victim who loves incest ships for what seems like a similar reason... because I wish me and my brother's relationship could be more like the romanticized story versions instead of the reality where there was nothing romantic or loving about what he did to me.

Unlike everyone else I'm not going to suggest getting help because I would be a hypocrite if I did (I've never found the strength to tell any of the therapists I've had about it), but I am going to say good luck and hopefully one day both of us will be able to move past it.

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(Anonymous) 2007-12-08 04:05 am (UTC)(link)
The same thing happened to me, too, though I'm not into fictional incest. I've made my peace with it. I think telling someone about these things is definitely a good thing, but it's not something that you can rush. In my case, the rest of my immediate family knew about it, even back then, and though it's not something we discuss anymore, it made me feel as though I wasn't quite so alone.

It's very hard to open up to people about these things. I've only told one person other than my family - my boyfriend of three years, whom I intend to marry - and even that took a REALLY long time a lot of effort. I had tried several times before to tell him, but I would just end up sobbing and he had no idea why. I feel like I've grown a lot since then.

I understand why you guys haven't told anyone. It's a part of my past that I just don't want people to know about; I've left it behind and I don't want to be treated differently by people I know because of it. I also love my brother and have forgiven him, and I don't think I'd want anyone to know that about him, either.

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[identity profile] raven-scarlett.livejournal.com 2007-12-08 03:07 am (UTC)(link)
37. I had no idea there was an actual term for the phenomenon...

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[identity profile] sky-pirate-tat.livejournal.com 2007-12-08 03:13 am (UTC)(link)
37. :P This made me laugh. A lot of slash has the "uke" portrayed like the sort of women (some) fangirls bash in the first place.

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[identity profile] asdhjfbciwu3487.livejournal.com 2007-12-08 03:42 am (UTC)(link)
Most slash fans I know hate that "uke" garbage too, myself included xD

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[identity profile] youmusteatit.livejournal.com 2007-12-08 03:15 am (UTC)(link)
7. :< But... if he really loved you, he probably wouldn't have hurt you. I'm so sorry that had to happen...

I don't know...

[identity profile] kxo.livejournal.com 2007-12-08 03:17 am (UTC)(link)
17. I shipped all those too, back in the day. Well, basically I just wanted to read more about Haruka, but whatev.

37. I wish I knew who posted this. I'd friend the OP. But I have to ask, do you really think the solution is to focus exclusively on males? Why not make up some great female characters and write about them? I'd real fic about strong female OCs. And really, the world needs for femmeslash that isn't all "OMG LESBIANS REPRODUCING HETERONORMATIVE GENDER ROLES!!"

46. Ahahaha, when I was in that fandom, I couldn't find a single decent fic. Shit!fic is why I left fandom.

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[identity profile] relmneiko.livejournal.com 2007-12-08 04:33 am (UTC)(link)
Seriously? I've been dogpiled so hard on this I can't believe that someone agrees with me.

I'm wary of doing OCs because they tend to get labeled as Sues. I tend to try take existing female characters and add more depth - I'm writing a Kingdom Hearts fic right now, and though Kairi and Namine bore me to tears, I put a lot of work into trying to make them interesting instead of eliminating/bashing/whatevering them.

I don't know if you've played them, but Star Ocean 3 and Suikoden V are home to some awesomely subtexy femmeslash couples - Nel/Clair and Lucretia/Lelei, respectively. I also love me some FFX-2 femmeslash. Where's the Paine/Rikku love?!

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#30

[identity profile] goddessathene.livejournal.com 2007-12-08 03:29 am (UTC)(link)
Actually

IT GOT RENEWED. THANK GOD. I CANNOT LIVE WITHOUT MICK/BETH or MICK/JOSEF

Rejoice.

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OH GOD IT DID? :DDDDDDDDDDDDDDD You've just made this anon insanely happy. I knowwww it's bad, but god. I love this show so much.

...I agree with your list of pairings, but I'm also incredibly partial to Mick/Coraline too! Or. Mick/Coraline/Beth. Mmmmmyes. ♥

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4, 35, 37, 47

[personal profile] sammywhatammy 2007-12-08 03:31 am (UTC)(link)
4. I JUST got into Doctor Who (seriously, just started and caught up within a matter of this week), and ohgod. So much agreement. Rooooooooooose ;____; I wanted to cuntpunt Donna for throwing salt on Ten's wounds about Rose T_T)

35. ...Is this really a fandom secret?

37. Whatever floats your boat, but I don't agree as far as Garnet, Aeris, and Tear.

47. DO NOT WANT.

4's OP

(Anonymous) 2007-12-08 05:07 am (UTC)(link)
That is EXACTLY how I felt during The Runaway Bride. I was like "I KNOW YOU DON'T KNOW WHAT JUST HAPPENED TO HIM, BUT FOR GOD'S SAKE I WANT TO SLAP YOU SILLY."

Roooooooooose ;_____;

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[identity profile] farasha.livejournal.com 2007-12-08 03:32 am (UTC)(link)
Hey. I like Collette because she's feminine. She's pure and sweet and big-hearted, and tries so fiercely to believe in what she's doing for the world, even to the cost of her own soul. And yes, she was a damsel in distress for a large part of the game, but it's hardly her fault, is it? She has some badass moves later in the game and I love fighting with her. I just don't think I could see her characterized any other way. The story wouldn't work if she was like... say, Zelos, who was also a Chosen and should have accepted his duty the same way but didn't.

At least Sheena isn't in there, or I might have had to kill someone.

EDIT: Also wondering why Chii isn't in there, speaking of my icon. She's probably the best example of the stereotype ever.
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[identity profile] artemekiia.livejournal.com 2007-12-08 03:33 am (UTC)(link)
You're so NOT subtle, it's really cute XD;;;;; .

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(Anonymous) 2007-12-08 07:31 am (UTC)(link)
SHUSH DDDDD8

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[identity profile] mitler.livejournal.com 2007-12-08 03:34 am (UTC)(link)
Though I'm more for the Illidan/Tyrande/Malfurion love triangle, Stormragecest is fine too. All that passionate hatred!

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