[ SECRET POST #3167 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #3167 ⌋

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Broken Suspension of Disbelief

[(Anonymous)]

Inspired by a comment on #4

Lots of people seem to have checked out of NCIS because the team seems to get away with too much but I have yet to be bothered by this. HOWEVER, I was thinking that this was my major complaint at the end of CSI Miami - how I hated that the team kept getting away with stuff they really shouldn't.

Does anyone else have a similar experience? What was your limit? Are you good with something in one show but it's too much in another and why do you think that is?

Re: Broken Suspension of Disbelief

[(Anonymous)]

Balance

Are the good guys getting away with the same amount of stuff the bad guys are getting away with, or is it glossed over because they're good, while the bad guys get caught and punished?

If you establish the world works in a certain way for everyone, it's easier to swallow because the belief isn't that one group gets away with it, it's that this is a world in which everyone can and does

Re: Broken Suspension of Disbelief

[(Anonymous)]

I would think, then, you would dislike many shows on TV because it seems to me that there's some level of imbalance in favor of the good guys just by the nature of cops-and-robbers-type shows. I feel like on some level we buy into cops being able to do things on the show that we wouldn't want them to do (and/or they can't) in real life. It's part of the genre.

I guess I'm more curious about when you've bought into the premise of the show and then later on your suspension of disbelief is broken.

Re: Broken Suspension of Disbelief

[(Anonymous)]

I do dislike many shows on TV and the cop genre has never interested me. Action movies manage to keep the even ground much better since they don't have to drag on season after season

The same rules apply, sometimes shows or stories start off even, then the balance breaks too badly for me to enjoy watching any more

Re: Broken Suspension of Disbelief

[kaijinscendre]

I can't stand shows that have to have a bigger, badder evil each season. I was fine with it for Buffy the Vampire Slayer, I think because it ended at Season 7 (8).

But it was one of the things that made me stop watching Supernatural. It just gets so stupid with each MORE EVIL MONSTER!

Re: Broken Suspension of Disbelief

[(Anonymous)]

I agree, especially when there's a point where there isn't something bigger and badder, and in trying to make one, the big-bad ends up being very poor indeed. I mean, what can you do that's worse than the devil?

Re: Broken Suspension of Disbelief

[nightscale]

Yeah I agree on this one. It's one of the things that always made me laugh with DBZ as well because there was always a BIGGER THREAT. Sometimes a show can carry it off and make it work, but most of the time it's just silly instead.

I actually liked the premise of the whole 'Leviathan' primordial evil kind of thing because it's something I've seen in other settings and I like it, but the execution was sloppy and they never felt like a threat so I got bored.

Re: Broken Suspension of Disbelief

[(Anonymous)]

I think Supernatural really suffered from this.

It's why it should've ended at S5. Because Death is introduced as this incredibly scary entity. You've got the Devil, you've got the Four Horseman of the Apocalypse. Where do you even GO after that?

Re: Broken Suspension of Disbelief

[(Anonymous)]

I hear ya on the "bigger, badder" thing - it's not just a problem in TV shows, but also in movies. Always trying to up the ante.

However, in the category of little things about SPN that make me suspend my disbelief: Sam Winchester's hair. No way, no how, can he impersonate an FBI officer, or any kind of law enforcement officer except an undercover one, with that hair. I know. In a show about monsters, and angels, and death, it's a little thing. But boy, does that hair bug me.

Re: Broken Suspension of Disbelief

[(Anonymous)]

When a famous actor plays a character outside their typecast usually. I can't disassociate them from that role and keep thinking you're Harry Potter or some shit the whole movie.

Re: Broken Suspension of Disbelief

[(Anonymous)]

I had this problem with Laurence Fishburne being on CSI. In addition to his character having no personality, I can't look at the guy and not think Cowboy Curtis.

Re: Broken Suspension of Disbelief

[(Anonymous)]

In general, shows (and books, movies etc.) that take place in real places often break my suspension of disbelief if something major happens. I know where NYC is. I know there was no alien invasion in NYC. I know aliens didn't cause problems in London until the Doctor saved everyone. I know they're supposed to be AU versions of those places, it just breaks the scope of fiction somehow.

I know this is weird.

Re: Broken Suspension of Disbelief

[(Anonymous)]

This usually happens in comedy, though I've seen it played for drama as well: When characters act like sociopaths just for comedic/dramatic effect. Especially if it's young characters because somehow the creators think young people are all evil - even some of the most vile kids I knew in school would not act as bad as the nice characters on Glee sometimes did. I know Glee is hardly the best poster for believable characterization anyway, but I've seen this elsewhere too.

The exception is of course if it's intended, like Jenna on 30 Rock. I'm not talking about characters like that, I mean characters who've never previously been shown to being selfish assholes being selfish assholes out of nowhere.

Re: Broken Suspension of Disbelief

[(Anonymous)]

are you me?

the worst part is, sometimes, i wonder if i've somehow lucked out my entire life and only met decent people and in reality, most people are more like they show them in tv

i don't like doubting humanity like that

Re: Broken Suspension of Disbelief (spoilers inside for Scandal)

[(Anonymous)]

If, in a realistic setting, the character is too special. For example, Scandal. The lead character, Olivia Pope has a lot of crazy things happening in her life. Some of them are stretching the suspension of disbelief quite a bit but hey, it's a drama. However she discovered that HER OWN FATHER is the leader of the super secret spy club that not even the US presidents know about! While she thought that all her life he worked at the Smithsonian (she wasn't even groomed to be a special person and have special events in her life!). That's what I would call stretching it a bit. That's the kind of stuff I was okay with Alias because it's about spies not about PR counselors.

Re: Broken Suspension of Disbelief (spoilers inside for Scandal)

[(Anonymous)]

I stopped watching when it was revealed that her (supposedly) dead mom was a terrorist and her being on a civilian plane was the only reason it was shot down, killing everyone on board (except for the mom). And of course the one who shot down the plane is the current President of the United States/Olivia's on-off boyfriend/affair.

And her father is keeping her mom prisoner because.... I stopped watching before that was revealed, but I assume it was for the good of the country, the world and everything.

Re: Broken Suspension of Disbelief *SPOILERS for TMNT 2k12*

[ex_mek82]

When they have a sudden/abrupt twist, especially if it's not even foreshadowed ahead of time or what have you.

Case in point: In the S2 finale of TMNT (the Nickelodeon cartoon), it's revealed that a certain supporting character was *surprise!* a Kraang droid all this time. There was not even the littlest of foreshadowing whatsoever, it just came up arbitrarily out of the blue for the sake of shock value. Never mind the fact the show, up to that point, was absolutely terrible with its female characters -what few there were-, that was what did it for me. They effectively got rid of a female character that could've had some potential. What a load of bullshit.

I stopped watching after that and haven't looked back since. And from what I've heard from most of my friends (most having dropped it after S3), it hasn't gotten any better since.

Re: Broken Suspension of Disbelief

[feotakahari]

I can't buy into series where people refuse to believe in magic despite it obviously being all around them. It's like not believing in rainstorms when your jacket gets soaked every day.

Re: Broken Suspension of Disbelief

[solticisekf]

It's because of the Statue of Secrecy and a generouse use of Obliviate.

Re: Broken Suspension of Disbelief

[solticisekf]

Well, the flying truck in Avengers AoU made me lol. Or the cups which were clearly glued to the tray in Jonathan Strange and Mr Norrell series.

Sometimes the whole premise is wrong, like in SPN: Dean and Sam always arrive a little too late when someone's already died, so I think in terms of creating a hunting organization to prevent these things. Also it's hard to believe that no one knows anything beside the few in the know.

The second example is Naruto. The villages are basically competting bodygards/killers places for hire, that let kids fight to death.

Re: Broken Suspension of Disbelief

[(Anonymous)]

Actors are all appatently incapable of handling an empty paper or styrofoam coffee cup so it looks like it has actual coffee in it (which it is supposed to) and I always notice this. They don't hold them like they have any weight (which they would, if they were full of liquid). They swing them around like the empty cups they are, when there would be coffee sloshing everywhere if the cups actually held coffee. They never blow on the top and when they mime sipping, they don't pretend to sip carefully, the way you do with a hot beverage. They do better with ceramic mugs and cups, but give an actor a paper cup and all is lost.

Re: Broken Suspension of Disbelief

[(Anonymous)]

Like, a lot of people wait until their coffee has cooled enough to drink without blowing on it. Which means it might be quite cool by the end and easier to gulp that last bit.

Re: Broken Suspension of Disbelief

[(Anonymous)]

I watched season 1 and 2 of Hannibal because there was a good balance of creepy vs. "hahaha can you believe this a real show!?" For me, in season 3, it felt like every other character was being killed and eaten for no other reason than "get it, it's because he's a cannibal." There was also a level of pandering to fans rather than telling a story in season 3 that I didn't like either. I stopped watching after the first few episodes and then the show got cancelled anyway. lol

Re: Broken Suspension of Disbelief

[(Anonymous)]

I had a lot of issues with Drive, but the very first was when Ryan Gosling said something about the most popular car in America, and it was SO clearly not true and was obviously product placement that it completely took me out of the movie.

Re: Broken Suspension of Disbelief

[(Anonymous)]

In Death Note, I find it so weird that L would come up with a supernatural explanation for the heart attacks. The existence of Ryuk and the Death Note isn't common knowledge and it seems like their world is just a modern anime-version of Japan. Like, wouldn't he be looking for a scientifically plausible scenario?