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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2015-12-14 06:38 pm

[ SECRET POST #3267 ]


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(Anonymous) 2015-12-14 11:51 pm (UTC)(link)
Do you hear that, OP? I got the world's smallest violin, and I'm playing it just for you.
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[personal profile] blitzwing 2015-12-14 11:53 pm (UTC)(link)
I support more fictional redheads.

(Anonymous) 2015-12-15 01:07 am (UTC)(link)
But not real ones. They have to be fictional.

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(Anonymous) 2015-12-14 11:53 pm (UTC)(link)
All seriousness, what exactly do you do to "fight for better representation" for other people?

(Anonymous) 2015-12-14 11:54 pm (UTC)(link)
Don't be so harsh on OP! I bet they have reblogged at least 10 posts! /sarcasm

(Anonymous) 2015-12-14 11:55 pm (UTC)(link)
This, seriously. I mean, unless you work in the industry, I'm 95 percent certain you're not doing a lick of "fighting" for anything. You're just paying lipservice to an ideal.

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(Anonymous) 2015-12-14 11:57 pm (UTC)(link)
Everyone would like to see themselves portrayed in media, and portayed in a good light. So, don't feel too bad, OP.

(Anonymous) 2015-12-15 12:02 am (UTC)(link)
I know tons of redheads, some of whom have blue eyes.
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[personal profile] philstar22 2015-12-15 12:04 am (UTC)(link)
No. My sister has red hair and blue eyes. And this is not a minority. Minority isn't just about numbers, it is about privilege and discrimination.

(Anonymous) 2015-12-15 12:10 am (UTC)(link)
They did say in the secret that they're aware of that...
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[personal profile] ill_omened 2015-12-15 12:11 am (UTC)(link)
No it's not, knock off the newspeak.

Also, I like the implication that red heads aren't relentlessly bullied.

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(Anonymous) 2015-12-15 12:09 am (UTC)(link)
Are you talking about wanting more blue-eyed redheads specifically or any redheads? Because there are probably more main characters with red hair in fiction than there are people in real life. Proportionally, I mean. One of my friends hates her red hair and says she wishes red hair wasn't portrayed as so amazing and desirable in the media.

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(Anonymous) 2015-12-15 12:10 am (UTC)(link)
As an auburn-haired person--not red enough for the Redheaded League but still subject to a tiny bit of "redhead" and "ginger" mockery--I am also getting annoyed by this.

Just from DC:
Kristin Kreuk as Lana Lang?
In the comics, a new character named Wally West, who's a "troubled black youth"? e_e e_e e_e
Mehcad Brooks as James Olsen? At least Jimmy is still redheaded in the comics.

This isn't just a redhead snit. I also get annoyed at Hollywood's casting bias toward pale mixed-race actresses. Like, it's not impossible that a native Congolese woman could look like Thandie Newton, if she had a parent of European stock, but she mostly looks English/Western European. Like, we all know it's about what some white Jewish guy from SoCal finds "fuckable," that's been exposed a long time.

The general movement away from redheads just starting to wear on me more, because it's starting to feel like the other "white" people were using redheads as a code or substitute for exotic ethnic minority all along, and now redheads are getting replaced with black or otherwise "PoC" versions. It points up how "other" we redheads are considered.

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[personal profile] scrubber 2015-12-15 12:30 am (UTC)(link)
I realized the other day that red is by far the least common real life hair color of any character I design.

I will create more redheads just for u OP.

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[personal profile] likeadeuce 2015-12-15 12:40 am (UTC)(link)
This again.

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People with green hair and curly red eyes for president!

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(Anonymous) 2015-12-15 12:46 am (UTC)(link)
OT but I fucking despise the MCU version of Hellcat. That abomination has nothing to do with the character I love in the comics.

But, hey, Jessica Jones is sooooooo ~important~, who cares that other Marvel characters like Luke Cage and Patsy Walker are getting derailed and/or reduced to her pretty sidekicks?

God, I hate this show and its fandom.

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[personal profile] diet_poison 2015-12-15 01:04 am (UTC)(link)
Interesting. I'm not sure how seriously to take this secret. Though it helps to be reminded, as some commenters did, that being a redhead can lead to bullying in the UK. (In the US it's sometimes commented on, but not much more. I've seen far more people complimented for their red hair than made fun of for it.)

I also seriously misread the last part of the secret, thinking you meant it was cringeworthy to wear a wig to cosplay someone redheaded - didn't catch the "primary red" bit.

Interesting secret. Interesting comments. :|a

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(Anonymous) 2015-12-15 01:06 am (UTC)(link)
there probably just aren't that many natural red head actors. no one's going to take away the role from a good actor who fits it because their hair color isn't right.

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[personal profile] starzki 2015-12-15 01:17 am (UTC)(link)
Idk if you're only referring to comic book heroes, but let me introduce you to Dana Scully.

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(Anonymous) 2015-12-15 02:25 am (UTC)(link)
Okay I see your example but I also know that they made Amy Adams' Lois Lane a blue-eyed redhead (your exact phenotype!) in the DCCU, so this kind of thing definitely goes back and forth. I honestly think you're fixating on these examples that fit your underrepresented narrative. Also you sound kind of whiny about it.

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(Anonymous) 2015-12-15 02:55 am (UTC)(link)
Jean Grey in the new X-Men is a blue-eyed redhead (in the comics she's a green-eyed redhead, played by Famke Janssen she was a hazel-eyed redhead).

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[personal profile] philippos42 2015-12-15 02:58 am (UTC)(link)
Oh, well, now you know me? Not a brilliant ginger, nay, but I have auburn hair that seems to be darkening before it decides whether to fall out or go white. And I have grey eyes that are sometimes vaguely blue or sea-green because staying one color would just be too much. Either I count as both a blue-eyed redhead and a green-eyed redhead, or neither?

I just realized lately that to most other people I'm a "green-eyed redhead," although I don't think I really look like the ones in the comics. I think I'll enjoy being a "green-eyed redhead" for a while.

I'm usually anon, and even more usually coy about my appearance and background, but yeah, we're out there.

(Anonymous) 2015-12-15 08:12 pm (UTC)(link)
Ariel in the adaptation of the Little Mermaid made me really sad.

I hear ya, OP.

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