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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2008-05-19 06:06 pm

[ SECRET POST #500 ]


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Notes:

Secrets Left to Post: 15 pages, 356 secrets from Secret Submission Post #072.
Secrets Not Posted: [ 1 2 - broken links ], [ 12 3 4 - not!secrets ], [ 1 - not!fandom ], [ 1 2 3 4 - too big ], [ 1 - repeat ], [ 1 - posted twice ].
Current Secret Submissions Post: here.
Suggestions, comments, and concerns should go here.

56, 66

[identity profile] kitsune-no-ame.livejournal.com 2008-05-19 11:19 pm (UTC)(link)
#56: DO IT CLAMP/SUNRISE! IDC who, just make it happen.

#66: Momotaro Senki senki Momotama <3

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[identity profile] runonmoonlight.livejournal.com 2008-05-19 11:19 pm (UTC)(link)
Here is the thing. Yes, I get annoyed sometimes if people go on about things, and you look at it and go "wow you are displaying your entitlement there, and not realizing it'.

But pretty much everyone (including me) in any fandom is going to have some kind of unconscious unintentional entitlement on some level. Because no matter the race/gender/ethnicity we've got the money to be obsessive over something and spend time on it.

If it bothers you so much, then find the posts where people are being sane. And point it out. Do it in a nice way, and then you cannot complain that you are not going to take part in any discussion until people realize where their own issues lie. At least if they're talking about it, they're starting to get on the right track. And entitlement isn't right, but most of the time it is also unintentional and people don't realize it even exists. Which isn't always an excuse, but if they are getting onto the right track, point it out. Do it in a sane, calm manner - and do it in the sane posts.

It would also probably help if more people understood what subconscious entitlement means, but maybe that will grow more. At least we're even able to discuss now it.

I'm not going to even go into the issues that I think the writers of SGA at the moment seriously have. Because that? Is a whole other story, that sadly, even if it is brought up to them, they don't want to admit it. At least some parts of fandom are. But when people get irrational and angry and yell, constructive discussion just cannot take place.

edit:: p.s The people discussing it most of the time are not the people who are just obsessed with pretty boys fucking, they are the ones who want to completely ignore it. They are the ones who go "stop talking about it, it's my pretty boy time". The people discussing it, may also love fics where McKay and Sheppard get it on, but they're also the ones looking at it from more then one angle at least [except for the crazies. Who exist in every fandom]
Edited 2008-05-19 23:23 (UTC)

Re: 33

(Anonymous) 2008-05-20 05:14 am (UTC)(link)
That was interesting, thank you. As I said in the secret I don't think everything is peachy in TV-land; I honestly just do think that even people not ignoring the issues have such a high tendency to "blame" their obviously (to me, at least) skewed and gender- and race-obsessed view of a show on the creators. Why does fandom not like the "colored" people? Because the show creators are writing them horribly and thereby making it impossible for us to like them, obviously! Same with females. Ad ifinitum. And if we bully out a female character from a show, that is a good thing in fandom, because we stood together and rid the world of such a horribly badly-written female character. Eh. No, the writers aren't always doing the best job possible, but sometimes I want to throw things at fandom and tell them to look at themselves before they start accusing others. It doesn't help that fandom generally degenerate into a circle-jerk in situations like that, everyone confirming everyone else's opinions that no, we are not racist or misogynist, it's them. I'm not saying that shipping McShep or Wincst or Petrellicest in themselves makes you racist, but if fandoms and the individuals in them keep only shipping pairing of that, uh, "kind", can't we at least see that there is an unconscious tendency for sexual racism in fandom, which is just as blatant as the conscious tendency in TV-land to cast white males in their late-20s and early-30s as the main characters? Not to mention Heroes fandom's obsession with young and skinny blondes. "I like the character and ships I like because I like how they're written!" is fine and all, but look at the bigger picture. The bigger picture is creepy.

I'm rambling, I didn't mean to attack you with that.

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[identity profile] alexander.livejournal.com 2008-05-19 11:19 pm (UTC)(link)
28 - 8( alas. But some of us stupid fans have a right to enjoy it to.
57 - somehow i think they'll appreciate it.XD
77 - me too.

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(Anonymous) 2008-05-20 05:53 pm (UTC)(link)
28. *Sigh* Never said you couldn't do that.
That secret is mostly towards some other people, not all of the fans generally. Sorry if you got offended.
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OP of 53

(Anonymous) 2008-05-20 12:43 am (UTC)(link)
<.< While I'm here, Bee was always my favorite.

[identity profile] yui-hime.livejournal.com 2008-05-19 11:21 pm (UTC)(link)
24) AWESOME

32) Joke secret made me LOL

36) Why do I feel old for even recognizing that?

48) ...

[identity profile] arwydd.livejournal.com 2008-05-19 11:21 pm (UTC)(link)
18 - Who wouldn't?

20 - It's okay, I loved S1 just a bit more, myself. Think it has something to do with that gorram finale.... x_x

30 - That is the LULZIEST thing I've seen all day!!

37 - .... I take it back. Baby!RSL as OMGVAMPIRE is ENDLESS LOLS. oh god, that movie... XDDDDD

44 - I tried my best to avoid the Heroes fandom, even though I adore the show, and I do not regret it! Secrets like this make me even more sure I made the right decision.

57 - If they don't appreciate it, then that's their problem, not yours. All authors who put their work out to be read by the public need to accept that this means anyone can say what they want about it. More power to ya! Slashers can like gen and het fic - hell, I do! Doesn't make you a less desirable reviewer. :)

65 - Oh no, my DBZ-knowledge is failing me! I recognize that character... he's from one of the movies, right?

N!S 4 - THAT'S CAUSE BELLA HAS NO SENSE OF HUMOR - DADDY RAEPED IT OUTTA HER

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[identity profile] kanagosa.livejournal.com 2008-05-19 11:21 pm (UTC)(link)
I agree with [livejournal.com profile] thano. Cosplay isnt even JAPANESE to begin with. It's American. Please get your facts straight.

As Achmed the dead terrorist would say..."You racist bastard!"

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[identity profile] ant-bug.livejournal.com 2008-05-19 11:39 pm (UTC)(link)
IAWTC and you get cookies for Achmed.

YOU FAIL.

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[identity profile] anthraxpretzels.livejournal.com 2008-05-19 11:23 pm (UTC)(link)
26. Uh, but what if the game itself isn't Japanese? Or the characters?

[identity profile] bip-bebop.livejournal.com 2008-05-20 12:23 am (UTC)(link)
Your icon is perfect for the OP ♥

And yeah, I wonder about that too. What about THE most well-known video game character, Mario? He's ITALIAN.

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[identity profile] ibroketuesday.livejournal.com 2008-05-19 11:24 pm (UTC)(link)
29: I <3333 Collateral.

32: ROFL!

44: Wankiest, really? The only wank Heroes fandom has really had was the astral plane thing. In any case, I love this fandom, despite its flaws (so many of the shippers are idiots and so many of the fics are bad... why...). It's cracktastic and lulzy and I've found great people.
Edited 2008-05-19 23:25 (UTC)
ext_41050: (Heroes - Matt)

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[identity profile] himhilien.livejournal.com 2008-05-20 12:27 am (UTC)(link)
We did have the Zach is/is not gay wank. That's the character, not the actor. XD There was some bullshit about how Hiro isn't really Japanese and the plagiarism stuff too. The only thing I think we haven't had is a ship war.

I'm glad I found you and the people I've friended too. ^_^

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[identity profile] black-hayate.livejournal.com 2008-05-19 11:25 pm (UTC)(link)
I thought I could never get the appeal of mecha.. before watching 00. Now I've started thinking of Gundams as "hot". That can't be good. D: (of course, Lockon is hot too.)
I really wish I had enough money and patience to build gunplas. Of course I could just assemble the parts without painting them, but it's just not the same :(

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[identity profile] electricalsun.livejournal.com 2008-05-19 11:25 pm (UTC)(link)
Fuck yes.

I'd rather be subjected to shitting dicknipples + guro + 34 of my favorite cartoon characters from my childhood than a Furry / Furry art / any furfaggotry whatsoever.

Especially the IRL ones. Holy shit.

(Anonymous) 2008-05-19 11:27 pm (UTC)(link)
26. ROR EVLYONES A RITTRE BIT LACIST! Okay 26, then you're not allowed to wear Western clothes or act Western--that means no words derived from English or English slang. It's only fair that way♥

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[identity profile] alenxa.livejournal.com 2008-05-20 12:41 am (UTC)(link)
Avenue Q FTW!

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(Anonymous) 2008-05-19 11:27 pm (UTC)(link)
1 OP to 49 OP:

It ain't that special. This is the second or third time my secret has become #1 and only 3 people commented on my secret so far. *shrug* It doesn't mean it'll get comments or whatever, it's just the one they picked that day.

sry2sy

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[identity profile] krys33.livejournal.com 2008-05-19 11:30 pm (UTC)(link)
68. I do, too. Give the guy a break, for God's sake!
77. I'm like that, too. I can't believe everyone told me Ten/Rose was so much better!

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[identity profile] sumairu.livejournal.com 2008-05-19 11:32 pm (UTC)(link)
Sorry but your secret made me laugh.

Unless you're Yamada Yu, I have no way of believing you. Maybe in your dreams.

(Anonymous) 2008-05-19 11:34 pm (UTC)(link)
1 and 26: diaf plz.

1 OP

(Anonymous) 2008-05-19 11:35 pm (UTC)(link)
lol no

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65- Magus secret

[identity profile] ant-bug.livejournal.com 2008-05-19 11:36 pm (UTC)(link)
65- OMG, I am so with you, I can't form WORDS. I still... God, listening to his theme just... My heart, mate... I still have a paper mache figure of him I made 9 years ago (I was 12).

Chrono Trigger in general is one of those things that has really stayed with me. It was the first fandom I read fic for (besides Gundam Wing, which I was just in for the sex).

Heh, my heart stopped when I hit page down and Magus was smirking at me. Rock on.

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(Anonymous) 2008-05-19 11:37 pm (UTC)(link)
How is she a weeaboo if she has no knowledge of series that haven't been dubbed?

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[identity profile] manda-babylon.livejournal.com 2008-05-20 03:21 am (UTC)(link)
That's what I was wondering. I think the OP of 55 is an elitist jerk who thinks they're rad for destroying the anime industry with their torrenting, because seeing it first makes you special forever.

[identity profile] tacster002.livejournal.com 2008-05-19 11:39 pm (UTC)(link)
3. so completely agreed with you. I'm so sick of those "OMG YOU DEFEATED ME, NOOOO MY PERFECT RECORD!!!" prosecutors. barf. let's have some real character, please.

20. I know where you're coming from, except with video games. there're sequels that I realize are better than the predecessor in every way, but for some reason I still like the first games more.

74. AHH! that's one of my favorite books! ;3;!

[identity profile] tomeka04.livejournal.com 2008-05-19 11:40 pm (UTC)(link)
26:.. troll moar!

Of ALL the thinks to cry about with cos-players - THAT's what's got your panties in a twist?! well forgive me, but i spend hours working on my costumes, and I'm fulling planning on still wearing them. Hell, I dress up full costume, and go downtown when their AREN'T any con's going on!

seriously - if your gonna bitch about cos-players, pick an actual worthy offense, because they're millions if them..

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[identity profile] aldriena.livejournal.com 2008-05-19 11:43 pm (UTC)(link)
26. Wait, what? I understand that stupid weeaboos trying to act Japanese is annoying, but you hate it when non-Asians cosplay? That's just retarded. Plenty of characters don't look Asian to begin with. Non-Asians can cosplay just as well as Asians can, tyvm.

47. I get your point and agree with you (especially with the "reading a bad book > not reading anything at all" bit), but DO YOU EVEN KNOW WHAT FAP MEANS?

Re: 47 OP

(Anonymous) 2008-05-20 12:50 am (UTC)(link)
DO YOU EVEN KNOW WHAT FAP MEANS?

To about something in excess, I was using it in that sense, only after submitting the secret did I realize people could be confused by the most commonly used meaning.

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(Anonymous) 2008-05-19 11:43 pm (UTC)(link)
If I can do it, you can~!!! ^_^;;;;
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(Anonymous) 2008-05-19 11:46 pm (UTC)(link)
Excellent.

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(Anonymous) 2008-05-19 11:46 pm (UTC)(link)
23. I knoooooow. ;_;

26. ...considering so many anime/game characters out there don't look Japanese at ALL, even if their game/show is set in Japan, I think you're full of shit.

32. lol

34. Yeah, right.

46. YES. YES, WE DO.

62. I guess everyone's got their squicks just like everyone's got their kinks. ¯\(º_o)/¯

64. Too bad, couldn't read.

70. ...you seriously can't figure out on your own that the answer to your question is yes?

75. Your last line seems somewhat incongruous, in a "methinks the lady doth protest too much" sort of way.

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