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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2008-06-02 05:14 pm

[ SECRET POST #514 ]


⌈ Secret Post #514 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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Notes:

Secrets Left to Post: 13 pages, 305 secrets from Secret Submission Post #074.
Secrets Not Posted: [ 0 - broken links ], [ 1 2 3 4 - not!secrets ], [ 0 - not!fandom ], [ 1 2 3 4 5 - too big ], [ 1 2 - repeat ], [ 1 - posted twice ], [ 1 - random link, wtf? ].
Current Secret Submissions Post: here.
Suggestions, comments, and concerns should go here.

[identity profile] mirroriste.livejournal.com 2008-06-02 10:43 pm (UTC)(link)
155. I completely agree with the secret XD. Actually, the rest of it too. The story is great, but god damnit the art keeps people from reading it! D:

105. AGREED AND AGREED.

[identity profile] coloa.livejournal.com 2008-06-02 10:43 pm (UTC)(link)
128: I think I would've liked it if it had ended when Anthy stabs her from behind. I just. Think that would've been a good place to stop.

131: SAME. I love fucked up relationships. Unfortunately, I hate vampires. ESPECIALLY sparkly vampires. ):

133: W-wait so we're ONLY ALLOWED TO LIKE STRONG CHARACTERS?! Maaan, and all these years I've been fangirling the wimpy kids. ):

147: ASDLkas;daks IT MAKES ME LOOK LIKE I'M GOING FAST. T-that's like the only episode I've seen but jesus christ I lol'd so hard.

151: Who cares? At least you actually know what the fuck it's from. ): IF it's any consolation, the dancing was from the game opening, not the anime?

128.

[identity profile] aquadyne.livejournal.com 2008-06-02 10:44 pm (UTC)(link)
SPOILERS FOR END OF UTENA

128. The series isn't saying you need romance to be happy, though, and I never even saw it that way; the main theme involves that of adulthood, and of needing to break free from delusions of what that world entails. The ending isn't that Anthy is happy because she's found a princess, or found true love, or any of that; she's happy because she's finally gained control of her life, and she's broken free from the delusion of adulthood Ohtori represents. Ohtori is comfortable because no one changes while they reside there; they stay static, clinging to their delusions and contorted ideals. Anthy leaving to the real adult world is representative of the courage for one to change and take control of their life: to face reality without these crutches. Utena served as the catalyst for that revelation, but it was Anthy who made the final step to go beyond Akio's gate. If anything, the series cherishes independence, but deeply values the bonds that can lead one to change.

It's like she told Akio; "remain comfortable in your coffin, go on playing prince." It's too scary for him to change. His vision of adulthood is this rock n' roll excess of sex, glamour, etc. He doesn't want to confront the possibility of change at all. He's forged an identity out of this futility that permeates Ohtori, and it's that same futility that made Anthy stab Utena at first. As bizarre as it seems, their pain is a comfort to them, because they've gotten used to their roles, and it's too frightening for Akio in the end to break out of his. He'd rather embrace his tragedy over and over then become a real adult and try to go uphill from there. It's much like how Juri lost her second duel once her necklace was broken; she depended on that necklace, on what it symbolized, and refused to let go for the longest time despite the harm it was doing her. And Touga's delusion of being some chivalrous prince; Saionji, with eternity; Miki, wanting everything to stay pure forever, and projecting the younger image of his sister on Anthy and thinking he loves her for her; and Nanami, only getting her value from being related to Touga. They all have a crutch; Utena did too, and we all do. It's a matter of moving past it.

That's how I viewed it, anyway. I didn't explain this as well as I would have liked, but I tried. And I, too, prefer their friendship.

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[identity profile] vivalanaomi.livejournal.com 2008-06-02 10:52 pm (UTC)(link)
Your explanation was amazing, and another reminder why Utena is my favorite series, ever.

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[identity profile] elendraug.livejournal.com 2008-06-02 10:49 pm (UTC)(link)
104. I ♥ HIM.
105. I agree so completely. :< I love his stuff.
124. He's Dick Knubbler in Metalocalypse, too! :D
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132. YES. HOLY FUCK. YES. ...there have been secrets about Brave Little Toaster lately? D: And I missed them? lfkgjdlfkgj I love that film so much it hurts.
138. I just hope they don't fuck it up. I want Ian Holm to be in it <3 <3 <3
147. Aw. I cried over Amber. The cane is a sad loss, too, though.
162. I forgot that flash existed! It is so sad. :
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[identity profile] darth-salai.livejournal.com 2008-06-02 11:38 pm (UTC)(link)
124. :D Knubbler!

106, 121, 130, 131, 140, 143, 149, 164

[identity profile] rushhour.livejournal.com 2008-06-02 10:49 pm (UTC)(link)
106) Gosh, I just don't know what to say. Usually it's the woman pretending to be the guy but--I just---IDK IDK IDK IDK IDK.

121) So much love for The Hew this post. LOL @ ass-recognition. ♥

130) omg, is that a Big Boss cosplay?

131)

140) You point out Kyle but not the kid from Magic School Bus??? Come on! No The Hew? :<

143) i can haz crossover fic nao?

149) IDK.

164) Hope you're not standing next to me when my cell rings.

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[identity profile] vida-boheme.livejournal.com 2008-06-02 10:58 pm (UTC)(link)
Your icon pretty much summed up my response to 106, too. I just wish i could express the look on my guy's face when i said "Hey, is this you?" 0_o
(He saw the funny side eventually...)

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[identity profile] sugarcoating.livejournal.com 2008-06-02 10:52 pm (UTC)(link)
Ingenious!

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[identity profile] ryuutchi.livejournal.com 2008-06-02 10:53 pm (UTC)(link)
115. A short leash? How can you know that? And, I mean, so she can't act, so what? Jared likes her, and she's cute-- that's all we know. It's not like we know anything about their home life.

I like her cause she's frickin' adorable and her lack of ability at singing is endearing.
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[identity profile] xanykaos.livejournal.com 2008-06-02 10:53 pm (UTC)(link)
105. I agree. And I really love that movie. Fun fairy tasle.


113. Maybe I just don't feel like watching it. If it's going to be ugly, bad animation, it had better be easily accesible humor. I dunno, but I just don't like humor masquerading as stupidity. It just seems...eph.


124. That's never happened for me, but Mark Hamill is my definitive Joker. Heath is probably going to be fantastic, but when I read the comics, it's Hamill's voice I hear. I'd pay good money to hear him sing the song from The Killing Joke.


131. I think the reasons people say its twisted is more because they have no personality outside of each other. Don't get me wrong, I love twisted, bizarre ships oh so much. But the point of those is usually that they're interesting and have character, not that they're little hollow dark shells.


132. You make a good point, sirrah. Now that you bring it up, I remember that that movie gave me chills for oh so many scenes. I mean, c'mon, the song they sing in that guy's junk room? I don't remember the marshmallows, though. But yeah, it was terrifying. Maybe that's part of what made it so great.


137. MY CHILDHOOD! DANGIT! Nah, y'know, I just don't ship it. I mean, now that you point it out, I can see where you would, but I really just liked their dynamic as friends. It would be like shipping Spock and Kirk or Bones. I know some people do...doesn't work for me.
But oh man, Bruce Coville needs to have a huge-normous fandom.


138. Awww Sam!


140. SCOTT MCNEIL! It's been so long since I went to a con, but he's the high point at every single one. I've never met a celeb-guest who was more personable and funny; one time, he hung around shooting the breeze with me and a friend for fifteen minutes, just because. Most of them just don't.
Plus, BareNaked Ladies. Now add Great Big Sea to the list...


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(Anonymous) 2008-06-03 02:37 am (UTC)(link)
Oh Xany, I always love your replies, but this one is the best!

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[identity profile] wunderstruck.livejournal.com 2008-06-02 10:54 pm (UTC)(link)
115: In all honesty I could really care less about her either way. I see no reason to OMG love her or OMG hate her. You hate her, that's fine. You won't get any hate from me about it.
But I do agree, it irritates me to see the fans all in love with her. I personally don't think she is anything all that special. I'm sure some people really do like her, but there are some that like her because she is with Jared.

Try not to let it bother you too much. Whenever you see someone praising how awesome she is, just roll your eyes and go on. Not all the SPN fans out there are OMG IN LOVE with her. =)

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[identity profile] dubiously.livejournal.com 2008-06-02 11:05 pm (UTC)(link)
just roll your eyes and go on

I think that's the best advice for nearly every fandom disagreement ever. Would save folks a lot of trouble.

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[identity profile] catystorm.livejournal.com 2008-06-02 10:56 pm (UTC)(link)
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

[identity profile] loticae.livejournal.com 2008-06-02 10:58 pm (UTC)(link)
104. YESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS AGREEEEEEEEEEEEEED

124. NO YOU'VE RUINED IT FOR ME

129. I LOVE THAT SERIES SO MUCH EVEN IF I DON'T REMEMBER THE NAMES BUT MY HAIR IS HALF BLACK AND HALF BLONDE BECAUSE OF THAT ONE CHICK ♥

138. I REMEMBER WHEN MY FRIEND USED TO READ MARY SUE FICS WITH LEGOLAS AND PRINT THEM OUT AND BRING THEM TO BASEBALL PRACTICE AND WE WOULD READ THEM AND I WOULD LOL BUT SHE TOOK THEM SERIOUSLY AND I FELT SO BAD BUT DAMN NOSTALGIA AND RUN ON SENTENCES ETC.

146. NAW

151. NO ONE IS GOING TO CARE

157. SAME

159. DUDE I WOULD READ IT
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146 OP

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103, 115, 123, 139, 147, 152, 157, ns!3, ns!4, tb!2, tb!4

[identity profile] llivla.livejournal.com 2008-06-02 10:58 pm (UTC)(link)
103 *snerk*

115 Totally didn't know that. So glad I'm not in SPN fandom because I thought she was a demon, did her purpose, and teh end. Not that I give a shit about actors' personal lives anyway.

123. Lol you totally just did it.

139 You are awesome

147 Omfg I totally forgot about that cane. D: D: D:

152 LMAO; good analogy.

157. ...iawts *is a fangirl for all the women, but....I liked Cut Throat Bitch more*

ns!3: IFAWTS. Both sides just get over themselves.

ns!4 and tb!2: .....

tb!4: YOUR SECRET IS AWESOME.
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[identity profile] verrine.livejournal.com 2008-06-02 10:59 pm (UTC)(link)
That's dumb XD I'm sorry, you can't possibly just disregard five seasons. Not to mention Angel and season 8 and 'after the fall' comics... it is what it is. Sorry to disappoint.

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[identity profile] wakuchan.livejournal.com 2008-06-02 11:01 pm (UTC)(link)
You mean I'm not the only person to ship them (or to have even read the books in the first place)? Awesome! I was always bitter that he never wrote the other three books he'd planned, though.

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(Anonymous) 2008-06-02 11:07 pm (UTC)(link)
It seems that there are a lot of Coville fans here, which is awesome. I think Coville shipped them too, though, that's what's so awesome! <3 I admit that I was wrong about the canon-validity of Remus/Sirius, but Snout/Grakker? Real for real.

Bonded.

Only couple to share a room. Only couple to have a PRIVATE room.

The numerous intimate moment. Gah.

And he was planning three more books!? Aww... well, maybe he'll get to them, eventually. It's only been... ten years. I want Rod to grow up and become a full-fledged member of the crew!

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[identity profile] terrie.livejournal.com 2008-06-02 11:02 pm (UTC)(link)
114. HOLY SHIT, RUDE DOG. YESSSS.

(Anonymous) 2008-06-02 11:02 pm (UTC)(link)
124: HAHAHAHAHA! I find that kinda cute. ^__^
128: Maybe not so much the ending, but I feel that way about their relationship in general. I don't feel Utena "swapped" out a prince for a princess, but I feel that putting romance in their relationship takes something away from their relationship.

128 OP

(Anonymous) 2008-06-03 01:20 am (UTC)(link)
I agree a lot. I liked it better before I knew about the romance.

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(Anonymous) 2008-06-02 11:03 pm (UTC)(link)
Shit, I want to play Lunar Silver Star Story again now.

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[identity profile] super-six-one.livejournal.com 2008-06-02 11:03 pm (UTC)(link)
124. It's sad, but I know how you feel. :P It would have been neat to have had him play the Joker in The Dark Knight, but oh well. It will be interesting to see how Ledger worked that role. :)

[identity profile] ex-impishly.livejournal.com 2008-06-02 11:04 pm (UTC)(link)
101. I do that with my main RP. I'd LIKE to think my character would be a fandom whore, and I'd get all these awesome doujinshi of her/everyone.

102. Amen to that. Brian/Lois, despite actually being less creepy, squicks me out because they keep bringing up that he's her dog, but Stewie and Brian seem sort of equal, if that makes sense.

107. OMG A MOVIE? FUCK YES. SORRY OP.

126. Kissing girls is awesome. Unhelpful comment is unhelpful.

131. I prefer it when people like it for the twistedness much more than when they try to justify it by going "EDWARD IS PERFECT AND CAN DO NO WRONG, HE ONLY ACTS THAT WAY BECAUSE HE JUST LOVES HER SO MUCH!"

144. I'm convinced that by this point, anyone squicked out by RPS just hasn't been in fandom long enough.

[identity profile] callmejude.livejournal.com 2008-06-02 11:38 pm (UTC)(link)
102. Yeah, I know. Lois/Brian is squickier, and it makes me feel like I'm kind of missing a point or something that Stewie/Brian doesn't, but then again, Stewie's infatuation with Brian seems pretty canon, at least. (Is it creepy that I think it's cute? Kinda. Oh well.)

107. XD Salright. My roommate had the same reaction. And honestly, for those who have already read it, yeah, it'll be fun to have a movie, I gotta agree, but so many people are going to watch the movie without even knowing there was a book series to begin with. T_T; It's upsetting to know they won't have the same experience, yanno?

Do I need a clarification to say that I'm the OP of both of those secrets? [/dork]

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[identity profile] georg-vanlunden.livejournal.com 2008-06-02 11:04 pm (UTC)(link)
129. ... So we're NOT talking about norweigan 80's heartthrob band A-Ha and their hit song "Take on Me", right? Just clarifying.

134. But at least you don't live in fear of having boring, run of the mill ships! Every grey cloud and silver linings, et cetra.

142. Oho? How come?

159. Chairman Koga's epic outfit DESERVES epic fit written for it. Don't feel weird about that, just feel content that you know the truth.

164. I'm almost this way with KH 2's ending song. When it reaches the end, the absolute finale, I cannot stop myself from just standing up and saluting, it is that epic.

164 OP

(Anonymous) 2008-06-03 10:53 pm (UTC)(link)
You have made my day.

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[personal profile] marmaladecat 2008-06-02 11:07 pm (UTC)(link)
105 - Yes! I adore his films! (I too had noticed the recent spate of "omg his stuff is so dumb/cliche/kooky and I didn't get it either. I figured it was just on my flist though.)

I've always been a little creeped out by dogs and that film made me deliciously unhappy to walk across any strip of grass at night. :3

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[identity profile] tehkatiej.livejournal.com 2008-06-02 11:09 pm (UTC)(link)
HBC was the only thing I *liked* about that movie. Though, agreed, I thought it was terribly disappointing.

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[identity profile] ashura-sama.livejournal.com 2008-06-02 11:11 pm (UTC)(link)
126. I swear I'll never understand why people make so much drama out of the whole homo-or-hetero thing. So you kissed someone you're not attracted to. Then you kissed someone you're not attracted to. Orientation shouldn't even need to go into the story.

128. Okay, I didn't watch or read Utena, shame on me. But really, unless there was an explicit message that it only happened because they're women, then it's not a matter of "girls need romance to be happy", it's a matter of "people need romance to be happy" (and even that message is only a problem if it's generalized for every single person in the world).

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(Anonymous) 2008-06-03 01:25 am (UTC)(link)
The problem I have with this romance in particular is that I felt it was totally unnecesary and actually weakened one of the points the series was trying to make. It's a very subtle hinting, and I didn't even notice it until I read an interview with the director where he stated that he did deliberately put one in there because he felt that heterosexual pairings were too distracting and took over the plot. Why he didn't simply forgo the romantic subtext altogether is, I can only conclude, because he felt that girls had to wind up with someone at the end of the story, and since the show was rejecting the idea of the princess needing the prince, he had the two girls wind up together. It felt tacked on and unnecessary.

[identity profile] nuclearpez.livejournal.com 2008-06-02 11:13 pm (UTC)(link)
113. Tim & Eric secret ftw *___* <3

133. God a lot of hating on him eh? Second one like this this week.

155. Woah Dragon Knights secret. The art is sometimes very pretty in my opinion, its just different and highly stylized (but yeah, not great compared to a lot)

164. I'm actually really passionate about Simple and Clean but... not the others.

[identity profile] schizo-niko.livejournal.com 2008-06-02 11:13 pm (UTC)(link)
164. Don't feel bad about it. I get really sentimental when I hear the songs. I mean, KH music has the monopoly on my iPod. They just remind me of really great things, and sometimes those things are just sad to think about because they're over (summertime, mostly).

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