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I wear light makeup every day - eyeliner, mascara, and then a tinted BB cream and then powder at the end. All my makeup comes from the drugstore.

Is anyone an advanced-level makeup user here? I'd like to improve my makeup game, but I still want to wear as little as possible. But I'm afraid to just google, because I assume every website relating to beauty products is sponsored content/the result of a corrupt beauty industry and I have no idea who to trust.

What are the nice makeup brands and are they worth it? Things like Sephora (?), Bare Minerals, etc? What are your basic makeup tips, and what does your routine look like? What should one do at minimum if they want to wear light makeup but still look nice? What's okay to buy at the drugstore, what should I invest more money in?

expensive makeup is the same stuff as the less expensive brands, don't waste your $$$!

Is that true though? I know I 100% can't google this because sponsored articles will be biased, but I also feel like there's a good chance it depends on the product? Some cheap drugstore stuff is total crap, after all.

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Some department store makeup is total crap.

it's true. The pricey makeup is nearly always made of the exact same stuff as the less expensive counterparts. They're often made by the exact same companies using different names.

It really does depend on the product. Well, mostly in my experience it is lip products that just aren't as good in the more expensive. But I have super dry lips (which is weird as I have oily skin everywhere else), so I need stuff that keeps them moist. Still moist and yet stays on all day is impossible to find in the cheap brands.

Preach. I am an avid defender of MAC lip gloss/moisturizer even though it's expensive, because all the drugstore products I have ever tried didn't last twenty minutes.

I definitely prefer, say, $7 Revlon eyeliner to the $1 eyeliner, but that's all still within the drugstore brands.

Whether it's even better to buy $30 eyeliner from a department store or other fancy place is another question. I can't imagine it's so much better that it's worth spending $30 - which is more than I can afford anyway - especially since you aren't supposed to keep eye makeup for too long before replacing it.

I don't go to Sephora often because everything is expensive, but when I really wanna treat myself, I love Kat Von D's Everlasting Liquid Lipstick. The colors are great, the formula is great, it's long lasting. I love it. Can't recommend it enough.

I always spray drugstore brand hairspray on my face after applying makeup to help it stay- a trick I picked up from high school theatre & marching band color guard.

Most of my makeup is drugstore brand, and I think if it works for you, that's perfect. You don't need to spend any more money on makeup than you're comfortable with, especially given your choice to wear light makeup anyway.

Yes to the everlasting liquid lipstick. Stays on my lips and yet keeps my lips moist. Most lip things don't do both. And the one I have is a deep red color that is fun. I only wear it for nighttime stuff, so not that often. But I love it.

I'm not a lipstick person, but would you say Sephora has other products that are "worth it"?

I don't really know if drugstore makeup works for me or not, since I've never used anything else! I don't think my makeup is advanced enough either way. It seems like a liquid liner/mascara doesn't vary much, but my skin tends to be oily and I can be a little red/blotchy at times, so I'd love to find a way to look more smooth and fresh. But honestly, even drugstore makeup is so freaking expensive.

I think the only non-lipstick item I've ever bought from Sephora was a small bottle of hand cream, so while I'm sure their other products are worth it, I can't say so with any air of authority.

And, while we're discussing makeup and I'm here, I might as well pimp one of my favorite independent businesses, https://shirocosmetics.com/. I'm obsessed with their eyeshadow. They do a color of the month and every June, they put up the colors from the last 12 months where you can buy them one last time and then only the three best sellers stay in the store. I have God only knows how many eyeshadows from them and two lipsticks, and I have no complaints.

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(Anonymous) - 2017-07-28 12:06 (UTC) - Expand

If you're using BB Cream - I only use the Korean ones; I find that the American ones don't really give coverage.
For eyeliner, I'm not picky about brands per se, but I am picky about lastingness, and most cheap ones just don't stay on long enough for me. But my favored eyeliner pencil brand isn't readily accessible, and you may not have the problems (oily skin+deep sunk eyes) that make most eyeliners just melt away within an hour on my face.

The real question is, in what way do you want to improve your makeup game? What look do you want to achieve?

I never bother with eyeliner. but I have super thick lashes, so I think I naturally look like eyeliner is supposed to make you look. The few times I've tried eyeliner, I've ended up poking my eye, and the results don't look different enough from my normal look to make it worth it.

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How do you get Korean BB creams in the US?

I liked the BB creams I used in Japan, they definitely had more of a tint to them. That was when I stopped wearing foundation completely, when I found BB cream could do the trick and is presumably better for your skin. But I also found that Japanese makeup usually didn't match my Caucasian skintone very well.

For eyeliner, I only use liquid liner. My eyes are a little deep too, and pencil liners just don't stay on well, I hate rubbing my eyes only to realize I've smeared everything. I use really cheap liquid liner (from Elf? that cheapass brand where you can get shit for like a dollar) and I mean, it does what it's meant to do.

My goal is to have smoother looking skin and not get greasy looking (I have oily skin). I also have very dark circles under my eyes, but though I have a concealer stick it just doesn't look like it matches to me.

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ketita - 2017-07-27 23:50 (UTC) - Expand

I like Sephora. Mostly I use drugstore stuff, but I have a few Sephora lipsticks because I liked the colors.

My biggest tip is to cater your makeup to the weather. Don't wear liquid foundation when its hot. I've made that mistake before. I tend to go for browns in eyeshadow because they make my green eyes stand out, with the occasional color shadow for a special occasion. I don't wear mascara most of the time, but I have thick lashes. For lipstick, subtle is better for non-dress up occasions. I usually go with a light brown (occasionally light pink) that is just dark enough to emphasize my eyes. And I like glosses because they make my lips stay moist more easily and are easy to redo throughout the day. I have dry lips, so I stay away from matte lip colors. I have a couple fun red glosses that I pull out for special occasions (or if I need a pick me up).

I guess, just, pick a feature to emphasize? Either eyes or lips. Don't go dramatic on both.

"light makeup" pretty much means you're not going to be using liquid foundation anyway.

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Cosmetologist here, and there's really not much of a difference in drugstore and department store makeup. Buy what you like and what works best for you. And look for makeup tutorials on YouTube and Instagram. My own routine is moisturizer, undereye concealer, blush or bronzer, mascara, lip gloss or tinted balm. Sometimes I add eyeshadow. I have eyeshadow palettes by ELF (drugstore brand) and Urban Decay (department store brand), and I have no preference either way.

That's interesting! And really good to know. Do you have any tips as a cosmetologist in regards to applying makeup?

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Do you have any tips for good lip glosses/post lipsticks where the color still stays on? My experience with drugstore stuff is that either the stuff on my lips is gone within an hour, or it is the matte stuff that makes my dry lips look awful and feels really uncomfortable.

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I don't have any brand recommendations (I prefer korean stuff tbh) but I do like using light makeup/the "natural" look and my biggest tip is doing your fucking eyebrows. it really makes the rest of your face look more polished.

If you're interested in experimenting, maybe consider subscribing to a sample service like Ipsy. That lets you try out a lot of different stuff on the cheap.

YouTube has a lot of good makeup tutorials. I've learned a lot from pixiwoo.

I like Loreal, MAC, and Too Faced. I get the latter two from Ulta, the former at the drugstore. Revlon lipsticks are fantastic and dirt cheap.

Sometimes the drugstore brands are better than the expensive stuff, and sometimes vice versa, and there's really no rhyme or reason to it.

Some differences matter though, at least to me. One that stands out is how much lead there is in lipstick. MAC is a brand that I absolutely love; their colors are divine. But their lipsticks contain a significant amount of lead. Department store brands like Maybelline have even more, so even though I've been tempted by some of their shades, I stay away.

What are your basic makeup tips

~ Use makeup brushes, especially for applying eye shadow, concealer (particularly to blemishes), foundation, blush, bronzer/contour, and highlight.

~ You don't need to spend a fortune on makeup brushes. ELF brushes will do (apprx. $2 - $7 per brush), and Real Technique brushes are quite good (apprx. $5 - $12 per brush).

~ Curl your eyelashes.

~ Always put at least a tiny bit of color on your lips.

~ Use mascara.

~ Do your brows. Take the time. Learn to do it well. It's worth it. (Unless you are blessed with thick, luscious, non-patchy brows, in which case I hate you).

~ If you wear under-eye concealer, set it with a setting powder.

What's okay to buy at the drugstore, what should I invest more money in?

INVEST: Lipstick - Imo a higher end (matte or long-wearing cream) lipstick is more pigmented and lasts longer on the lip.

INVEST: Eye liner - Imo a higher end eye liner is easier to apply and stays put far better.

INVEST: Brow filler - The Anastasia Brow Wiz really The Best, but it will cost you.

~ Setting powder is worth spending more for if you've noticed that your under-eye concealer creases and you just want to use it to set that area. OR if you have really oily skin. If you don't have oily skin, but you use a dewy foundation and feel you need to set your whole face, trying cheaper setting products is worth it. (Try to hunt down RCMA loose setting powder; I haven't tried it yet myself, but it's fairly cheap and it's a cult favorite among people in the know.)

~ Foundation is worth spending more for if you have problem skin and need FULL coverage (which it sounds like you don't).

What are the nice makeup brands and are they worth it?

I'm not sure whether any pricey makeup is really, truly worth it, but if you're wondering whether a particular brand is worth at least looking into, here's my opinion:

Make Up For Ever - YES (especially for foundation and lipstick)

Anastasia Beverly Hills - Yes (esp. for brow products)

Nars - Yes (esp. for concealer and lipstick)

Urban Decay - Yes (esp. for lipstick, eyeshadows, and eye primer)

Benefit - Yes (esp. for brow products and Hoola bronzer)

Sephora Brand - Yes (ask for samples, try everything, be skeptical, but consider this line)

Tarte - Probably (If you can find Shape Tape Concealer, try iiiiit)

Mac - Probably? (So. Many. Lipsticks)

Bare Minerals - Probably? I really don't know.

Too Faced, Kat Von D, Becca, Hourglass - Maybe?

Estee Lauder, Dior, Guerlain, Givenchy, Yves Saint Laurent, Tom Ford, Chanel - Lol, nope!

NYX has a HUGE selection, and seems to be trying to bridge the gap between drugstore and department store makeup. I have no idea how well they're succeeding, but they seem to be making a lot of money, so.

Physicians Formula seems to do well with powder products that go on the face (i.e. blush, bronzer, highlighter, powder foundation).

ELF has a pretty huge line (including brushes), and is very cheap. (In Canada it's hard to find stores that carry more than a little bit of ELF merch, so I haven't tried a lot of ELF products.)

What should one do at minimum if they want to wear light makeup but still look nice?

~If you have nice skin, then skipping foundation is fine.

~Apply concealer under the eyes (can use fingers if desired) and on any blemishes (always use a tiny brush).

~Set the concealer with a setting powder (using a small powder brush).

~Fill in brows with brow product of choice and gently brush them smooth with a spoolie.

~Apply blush (using a blush brush).

~Apply mascara.

~Apply lip product of choice, using at least a tinted balm.

Once you're used to this routine, it probably only takes about 5 minutes. The brows can take ages though if you're a perfectionist, so that step really depends on exactly how "on fleek" you want your brows to be.

If you have large mobile lids, then I guess your eye might look a bit naked without some liner and/or shadow. I have deep set eyes and small mobile lids, so I tend to skip these steps. However, I will say that liner looks hella good on a lot of people. So if you like how it looks on you, then I'm sure it's worth doing.

This is probably pretty late and idk if you're still reading, but for eyeshadows I really like Urban Decay and Anastasia Beverly Hills, for eye liner I like Kat Von D's Tattoo, and for lips I like Winky Lux.

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