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⌈ Secret Post #4224 ⌋

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[fscom]

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[(Anonymous)]

The most popular f/f ship in my fandom involves two women who have met in canon once and who didn't even exchange a single word during that scene. They always write them as the Generic Female Character who gives good advice to the main male character.

It's specially annoying because there are two female characters who interact with each other a lot and imho have great potential for being an amazing rival ship. But because one of them is played by an actress in her early 50s (who is still very attractive, mind you), there's zero content for them.

Be the change you want to see in the world, I guess.

[(Anonymous)]

what fandom

[(Anonymous)]

I feel old for remembering when m/m fans were considered uniquely superficial for shipping any two guys

Turns out people are just gonna be people

But yeah, I don't really get it either. It doesn't annoy me but at least label it OC fic or something

[(Anonymous)]

Goddamn, same. And I say that as a lesbian. This performative garbage is so insulting, I can't stand it.

[(Anonymous)]

There is performative stuff, but I don't think this is it

Because m/m shippers also do this and it doesn't seem performative there so I don't think it is here

[(Anonymous)]

Fuck, I know, specially when it's clear from the writing that they're pushing themselves to do it but would rather write a m/m pairing (for example, because the f/f fic revolves around the two women getting a m/m ship together).

[(Anonymous)]

As another lesbian, get the fuck over your high and mighty self.

I don't have many options, and I know my damn aesthetic tastes in my lesbian ships. It ain't performative.

[(Anonymous)]

there's definitely a weird stink of eat your veggies femmeslash when this occurs and and godforbid you point it out or you get painted some kind of misogynist if you don't like it

[nightscale]

I mean there's lots of m/m shipping like this too so I don't really get the issue?

Sometimes people just wanna shove two characters together because they're pretty and that's all there is to it, no harm in that.

(If we're talking about people who do this and then claim that they're some kind of Amazing Social Activist, then yeah they're annoying, but again: I've seen this behaviour from m/m shippers as well, it's not unique to f/f).

There's also the issue that in some fandoms there's few female characters to choose from and most of them never interact, so any of the f/f ships are gonna seem pretty random and out-there.

[(Anonymous)]

Also, it's hard to think of ships like OP's talking about that are actually popular outside of a handful of people - maybe I'm forgetting some, tho

[(Anonymous)]

I've seen it argued on ontd and tumblr that het ships are now more woke, apparently m/m and f/f is 'fetishistic' and down to internalized misogyny, while het is 'female representation.' We're truly living in a golden age, people!

[(Anonymous)]

I'm a member of the LGBT+ community and a former femslasher. I still dabble in f/f a bit but it's gotten so toxic I won't go in until I can completely vet that the fandom isn't filled with noxious people. I think a lot of it comes with this weird vibe from the lesbian community on tumblr right now. (Largely due to it being infiltrated by TERFs, so TERF discourse is rampant even when the people you're interacting with aren't.)

In this hypothetical case, the M/M and M/F shippers are just having fun and being silly. But so many of the F/F shippers take crack pairings and make themselves out to be victims. "If you don't ship these two pure lesbians (who have never spoken to each other ever) then you are a bigot and hate lesbians" "These two girls are lesbians." "They haven't even met, how can you tell what their sexuality is?" "Why do you hate lesbians so much? People never let us have anything! Obviously from their eye contact you can see they're LESBIANS! Screw you, you cishet!"

Compare to say the m/m shipper who is just making their content and having fun. This isn't to say that m/m or f/m ships don't have their overinvested fans who cause drama. It's just the femslash fandom around a lot of spaces has completely changed to be extremely aggro. All female characters must be lesbians, even if they have boyfriends or husbands. Bi headcanons are deemed disgusting, if you disagree with them you personally hate lesbians. If you even gently question them, then you are disgusting. They send hate to people and try and latch onto any female character. Even if there's only one female character in the series and she's married, she's a lesbian and if you disagree...well, you get the idea.

And yes, not all of the f/f fandom is like this. But a lot of the younger crowd is, and it makes fandoming completely exhausting.

[type_wild]

I'm not sure I see the difference, or at least how this is unique to f/f shippers. As Death Note fandom illustrated, you don't need to have any lines in order to be a part of a juggernaut pairing.

[(Anonymous)]

Oh, let gay girls live their lives.

[malurette]

I don't care, I do both, I'm having fun doing it and I love it.

[(Anonymous)]

Oh, hey, someone made a secret out of my comment.

[(Anonymous)]

Isn't that the same thing? Both involve shipping characters you know little to nothing about.

[(Anonymous)]

I can see why someone would find the first annoying (I don't, though), but why minor background characters? If something in the canon sparks an idea I don't see anything wrong with running with it, and fleshing out underdevloped characters can be fun.

[(Anonymous)]

Waaah waaah those silly lez-bee-ens shipping two wimminz together when they don't get much options. They should just stop and ship men together like real fangirls.

[(Anonymous)]

It's not like m/m and f/m fans don't do exactly the same thing!

[(Anonymous)]

I don't mind people who ship female characters who never met, but I hate when it's clearly so they won't get in the way of their M/M ship. Like, they'll ship it as an afterthought. Then when they write a 50,000,000 word fanfic about their M/M ship, tag the F/F ship, and it turns out the latter were vaguely talked about for a sentence, then never mentioned again.

[(Anonymous)]

I agree, because those shippers are always putting down the very people who ship minor background characters, as long as the background characters are m/m or m/f. Other kinds of shippers are better at shipping and letting ship.

[(Anonymous)]

Honey, I will ship anyone with anyone. Life, uh... finds a way, no matter how nonsensical.

[(Anonymous)]

As a girl with a girlfriend, cosigned.

Femslashers have become completely awful. I blame it largely on how thoroughly tumblr has been infiltrated by TERFS. It's making even non-tumblr f/f spaces complete garbage.

Crackshippers generally aren't harassing people for shipping canon m/f pairings because they headcanoned the girl as a lesbian despite the fact that she's happily married and had eight children.

Crackshippers may laugh at their plight of having 5 fics, three that they wrote themselves, but they aren't pulling the "everyone hates lesbians!! even the LGBT+ people hate lesbians" when someone tells them not to scream slurs at people be racist, transphobic or biphobic.

Crackshippers generally aren't taking canon bi characters, saying they're lesbians and then screaming "everyone hates lesbians??? why can't you just let us have anything??" when someone tells them that Korra and Asami are canonly bi. (Same with literally any other bi character.)

Crackshippers aren't latching onto bi characters and freaking out every time the bi character so much as looks at someone of a different gender and going on huge campaigns for the bi character to never end up with a different gendered character. (Helloooo, 100 fandom.)

Crackshippers aren't taking aspects of people's religions and making them "lesbian icons" when said goddesses had husbands or male lovers and then screaming about how "everyone hates lesbians" when people from that actual religion tell them not to erase their history.

Crackshippers aren't reblogging pictures from trans women to mock and harass them, they aren't making posts that tell bisexuals and trans women that they deserve their rape and murder statistics, they aren't drawing pictures of trans women being boiled alive, burned and beaten like actual femslashers are doing.

I used to be a proud femslasher who did all the events and worked hard. Now it just isn't worth it. I just don't have the energy to check every single person I reblog from to make sure they aren't also doing comics where their OCs burn trans women alive.