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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2021-09-05 04:13 pm

[ SECRET POST #5357 ]


⌈ Secret Post #5357 ⌋

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God that art is so good.
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[personal profile] philstar22 2021-09-05 09:14 pm (UTC)(link)
I never got sucked down into the fanon Snape black hole. I hated him from book 1 because I'd had teachers similar to him who bullied me, so regardless of what good qualities he had, I was never going to like him. Teachers who bully kids are the worst, IMHO.

On the other hand, for a while as a kid I was really into the fanon version of Lucius. I still love his character, but as the awful, prejudiced, ultimately cowardly man he is.

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Thanks for making my secret Op!

And the art is amazing *_*

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All i took away from this secret:

Vladislav (baby don't hurt me)

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(Anonymous) 2021-09-05 11:58 pm (UTC)(link)
Snape's my fav Harry Potter character, but I can't stand the fanon version of him that was popular like 10-15 years ago. I like him *because* he's messy, petty, and cruel while at the same time being brave as fuck and having this faltering, stumbling path towards something like redemption. Plus I've always been very into portrayals of his spywork and the war in fanfic and avoided fic that spends too much time on Hogwarts and stuff, which means that I tend to get stuff that emphasizes the interesting parts of his character, to me at least. I will also say that there's been a LOT of change in the HP fanfic scene over time, and I think that the softened fanon version of Snape is FAR less popular than it used to be. Nowadays most Snape-centric fics tend to a) focus on the war and b) include the petty and cruel sides of his personality, though to a lesser degree than the books due to the shift in focus from the school to the war.

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(Anonymous) 2021-09-06 01:36 am (UTC)(link)
Rowling had a major problem "uglifying" her villain characters. Parkinson was "pug faced" and Draco was always "pointy" and Umbridge was commonly referred to as toad like. So, if you step back from her descriptions and remember the Brits don't um, have the same dental standards hollywood does, it's quite possible Snape and Pansy and the rest weren't as ugly as Rowling tried to make them out to be. Especially when ugly = evil.

And I think Rowling had a completely different character in her head than what she conveyed to the books. And I don't think fandom picked up on it per se, I think fandom went with the "let's woobify this villain" like they do with every villain they can, and fandom ended up with a much more nuanced take than Rowling at times. (As well as the Snape in leather pants glittery take.) And some of those takes were a lot closer to what Rowling had in mind than she could actually get on page.

This happened to a lot of her characters, take the deep divides on Ron and Hermione in fanon interpretation for instance. The Weasley twins were pretty cruel bullies and weren't ever called on it either. These characters had all potential to be messy complex characters up to and including Dumbledore, and imo, the narrative never lived up to it in the later books when it should have. So, the truth is probably somewhere in the middle I guess. YMMV

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(Anonymous) 2021-09-06 05:39 am (UTC)(link)
It's been so long since I read any of the books or even saw the movies, but I remember Alan Rickman's Snape coming across much less vicious than the book version, and for a lot of people the movie versions of the characters were the ones that stuck in their minds. Which is not to say the fanon Snape is exactly like movie Snape, but I think it contributed that you had this actor portrayig him who had a striking voice and was fairly handsome, if kind of too old for the role. You work backwards from that; "Oh he's supposed to be thinner and younger" and add a dash of "well he'd be nice to ME," and you have something that’s beginning to look like the fanon Snape.

(Anonymous) 2021-09-06 10:22 pm (UTC)(link)
I'm still mad that his motivation was Lily.

There were so, so many other ways to take his character and make the double-agent thing fascinating but. No. It was All For Lily.

Sigh.

But I still love Snape in fanfic. He's a deeply unpleasant man. But he's also incredibly fascinating to me.

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Same, nonny. (In that I believe FS! has helped me.)

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I appreciate F!S for being one of few fannish spaces populated mostly by people 30 and over.

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[personal profile] dinogrrl 2021-09-05 08:47 pm (UTC)(link)
Yeah, despite the silliness, a lot of the themes/messages were surprisingly honest and well-written. Not saying they got everything perfect, but it made the show kinda refreshing in that sense.

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(Anonymous) 2021-09-05 10:26 pm (UTC)(link)
Huh, whereas I enjoyed the show just fine and thought the both of them were fun characters even if the show had it's weak parts I still found it cute. But I'm also not a die-hard fan of either actor so I have no stake in claiming one as better than the other, I thought they worked well together despite the shows flaws, which is all I need sometimes.

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(Anonymous) 2021-09-05 09:03 pm (UTC)(link)
I’m the same way about canon and cannon. Or weary and wary. I’ve seen them used incorrectly so often that I reflexively cringe before thinking “oh wait no, that actually is correct in that context.”

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This made me literally LOL.

I'm so sorry, anon. Absolute 100% sympathetic with your plight, and I wish I had some advice.

But also, genuinely laughed my ass off reading this.

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(Anonymous) 2021-09-05 10:25 pm (UTC)(link)
Mayhaps it's women's solidarity but I just can't find it in me to emphasise with cheating hasbunds. I also found Grace the most likable of the cast for some freason. Frankie is a bit annoying with her organic mambo jambo in some episodes.

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