[ SECRET POST #5448 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #5448 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.


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[Naruto/Boruto]


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Secrets Left to Post: 02 pages, 36 secrets from Secret Submission Post #779.
Secrets Not Posted: [ 0 - broken links ], [ 0 - not!secrets ], [ 0 - not!fandom ], [ 0 - too big ], [ 0 - repeat ].
Current Secret Submissions Post: here.
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Comments

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Name the fandom. And repeats, etc.

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01. https://i.imgur.com/VZqzRAK.png

[(Anonymous)]

There's The Expanse, I guess? Which is definitely SF and arguably has horror elements as well. And there do seem to be some science fiction projects (that aren't horror admittedly) getting made - there's Foundation on Apple TV, there's a Mass Effect show in progress at Amazon, and there's been a few things on Syfy and the CW recently (Vagrant Queen which was only 1 season unfortunately, and Pandora and Killjoys which ended pretty recently).

That said I do think you're basically on to something - it seems like most of the SF shows getting made are post-apocalyptic, near-future, or superhero stuff, none of which is what I would really call "classic" sci-fi and definitely not sci-fi horror.

[tabaqui]

The Expanse (imo) is amazing, with a little bit of horror but mostly just some excellent sci-fi. The books are even cooler, and there's more of the horror vibe in them.

[(Anonymous)]

Is this illustration associated with anything in particular? It looks pretty cool.

[(Anonymous)]

I really enjoyed the horror aspects of Midnight Mass. The show is extremely slow-burn and more of a drama than an outright horror show, but when shit hit the fan it goddamn hit the fan good.

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02. https://i.imgur.com/HHrLdbC.jpg
[Naruto/Boruto]

[(Anonymous)]

I'm not a NaruSaku shipper, but I swear for a moment I thought Kishimoto might actually do something unexpected and have Sakura's feelings change for Naruto because of all the character development they'd been through together. The moment Kishimoto ruled it out was the moment I knew she was doomed to mediocrity for the rest of the story and that she and Sasuke deserved each other. lol

A super long and slightly off topic (in the second half) reply

[(Anonymous)]

These concepts are kinda baked into each other, though I agree.

There's this difficulty, especially in older anime fandoms (which, ew, I guess Naruto technically is considering even the anime is is almost 2 decades old) of a lot of in-universe criticism of girls and women (or other characters that are underused, badly used or undeveloped). Like "they're weak," "too emotional," "too boring," "too whiney," among others. Even when these have merit (and often times they have less merit than fandom thought at the time), it's placed on the character and not the writer. So, there's a tendency for "in-verse" discussions of how to pair the characters. Also, in Naruto, at this point, I'd say that Kishimoto really is not good at writing female characters. It seems like every time he tries to get better or get close he either stagnates and backs off (rarely focusing on that character again or keeping them in their same very stagnant characterization) and then adds weird characteristics. I don't want to put it solely on his ability to write romance, because I like some of the romantic ideas he has (Kushina and Minato, Jiraya and Tsunade even if you read it as one-sided). He had a very good start with his first drawn/written part of Boruto being Sarada's story... and then he wrote whatever that is. That weird stuff. The stuff that combined ninjas and aliens but somehow made it boring.

Another difficulty is fillers, added scenes, and removed scenes in adaptations. There's actually a Twitter account dedicated now to pointing out specifically added or removed things by Studio Pierrot (who notably adapted Naruto, Bleach, and Black Clover). Notably, female characters. There are exaggerations to characters, removal of pivotal scenes, etc. There are a lot of different things out there, with the most documented probably being Sakura's in Naruto and Orihime's in Bleach. Googling something like "studio pierrot changes [franchise]" should help. If you want, I have a madlad friend who has gone through the first episode of Bleach vs the first chapter and pointed out things that were changed (not that things can't be changed, mind you, but these items were bad notably because they contradicted things in the episode, some were completely frivolous and thus baffling, and others actually hurt some characters' characterizations). There's also a twitter account for some things, but I disagree with some of its stuff because it's complaining about blood and gore censorship which... it has to be on TV. It's also not as well documented/expressed with twitter being, well, twitter.

So you get bad character writing, bad relationship writing, and then further fumbling of both these things by the anime adaptation. As in, there ARE examples of fumbling the particular relationship in the anime. This doesn't mean it's particularly good in the manga. I read the post-timeskip stuff exclusively as manga and um. Yeah. Not good. But Sakura is a far more interesting character in that medium than in the anime. Though, again. Not good.

[(Anonymous)]

Obviously Sasuke should have just gotten with Naruto in the first place.

[(Anonymous)]

I like to say the Brienne of Tarth deserves better than Jaime Lannister because he's a hot mess emotionally but also she likes her men beautiful, powerful, wealthy beyond all reason, and overwhelmingly in love with other people. And who am I to judge, shoot for the stars.

At some point it's just about shipping the character with happiness.

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03. https://i.imgur.com/YazQaat.jpg

[(Anonymous)]

Editors are probably thinking, "Eh, most readers don't care about a lot of stuff that we used spend time weeding out, so why bother?"

But don't mind me, I've been bitter about this for years...

[(Anonymous)]

I imagine they're thinking "they don't pay me enough to deal with this shit and the readers don't care if it's crap anyway"

[(Anonymous)]

What books?

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04. https://i.imgur.com/guqCQqO.jpg

[(Anonymous)]

Well, he WAS underage at the time so I am kind of glad there were no sexual undertones to his costume given what we know now about Lou Pearlman.

Also, I believe I remember them saying in the Making the Video that they choose each costume and he was thrilled at how he looked (Granted, years later he'd give us Backstreet Project and Dead 7 so yes, his taste isn't exactly the greatest)

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05. https://i.imgur.com/aQ6rtLz.png

[(Anonymous)]

I don't read the comics because I'm not keen on the art style, but I wasn't even aware that there was fanwank surrounding Titan. Now I'm curious to know what's going on.

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06. https://i.imgur.com/gD1h69a.png

[(Anonymous)]

There's a Turkish show called Magnificent Century about her, I think it was from 2011/2012 or so? I've only seen clips of it on youtube so I don't know how good it might be, but when I read her name I remembered stumbling across it there. The bits I saw of it were fascinating!

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07. https://i.imgur.com/n6HeVBl.png

[(Anonymous)]

lmaoooo

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Which recipes do you deviate from the norm and change to your tastes?

brought to you by the funnel cake I want to make but don't want to fry

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