[ SECRET POST #5974 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #5974 ⌋

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[Pathfinder: Wrath of the Righteous]



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[fscom]

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[Pathfinder: Wrath of the Righteous]

[(Anonymous)]

I roll my eyes at people whining about game difficulty in the first place. I grew up on platformers like Mario and Sonic, which were absolutely unforgiving in terms of difficulty. You messed up, you died. You died too many times, game over.

These days games are about a thousand times easier what with the ability to save your game any time you want and retry boss fights/levels if you die, multiple difficulty levels, etc. How dare some games want to be an actually challenging experience.

[(Anonymous)]

modern games are designed to be played once and thrown away, that's why they're easier

if you're replaying the challenge of old games you're not buying new ones

[(Anonymous)]

and without the ability to save and retry, I wouldn't be a gamer at all, so nice gatekeep there. I don't play notoriously difficult games like Dark Souls because I know I wouldn't enjoy them - you go right ahead, have fun. a breadth of game styles and fashions is better than only having one option and it's not weakness to say, no, I actually don't enjoy Space Invaders thanks, faster and harder until you just fucking die isn't fun for everyone.

that said I'm p. sure Pathfinder is a tabletop so we can take our video game whining elsewhere.

[(Anonymous)]

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[hey_hey_hey]

Growing up on those games is why I appreciate so-called "easy" games. Your mom bought a hard game for you, you were stuck until next year when she could afford to buy you a new game. A game is too hard or boring now, you can trade it in and move on to the next one.

[(Anonymous)]

That depended on the game. Even on the original NES, there were save points/inns (Final Fantasy), or codes you had to write down and enter to resume a game from your nearest stopping point (Castlevania II was one, I believe).

And there were also cheat codes that made you invincible too (Contra). So I don't think much has changed in 30-40 years except that the difficulty setting is now located in your menus.

By the way, and Mario and Sonic aren't that much of a flex. SMB? It had warp points. You could literally skip 80% of the game and win. And even if you didn't skip anything, it was easy to gain over a hundred lives with little effort so that you didn't die easily (hint: it involved a koopa shell and some stairs). As for Sonic, that had a code that could send you to the final boss. I know, because I did it as a kid and beat the game. Okay, maybe that last one's cheating a little, but the point is, there were ways to get around the difficulty.

[(Anonymous)]

This!

[(Anonymous)]

You're giving me flashbacks on cheat codes. Except I used to trawl ask Jeeves for random sites that game walk throughs all types out. Got me some cool stuff in Zelda,; still never cleared Level 8-2 of SMB Deluxe lol. Never did get that cheat correct,!

[(Anonymous)]

I grew up on them too, but it’s your gatekeeping that I roll my eyes at. Not everyone is physically capable of playing games the way they used to be, but they should still be able to play games.


And Mario and Sonic were “absolutely unforgiving”? At the time, they weren’t really considered that way. Maybe it was different for some people, which is fair enough, but I’ve never heard of someone referring to them with “unforgiving” or “punishing” like people do of arcade and NES/SNES games of the time. As a Castlevania fanatic, that’s what I think of when I think of unforgiving games.

[(Anonymous)]

There is no moral value to games being hard.

[(Anonymous)]

Well for me, it's the grinding required by a high difficulty.

If I'm going to be spending ten to a hundred manhours doing repetitive actions, I would rather have something to show for it by the end. Like a sock. There is honour in a properly knitted sock.

For something that's supposed to be entertainment? I'm just not the demographic for the git gud approach. That said, if it's your joy: go for it.

[(Anonymous)]

I also grew up on Sonic, but like... we are FREE to not turn the difficulty down-- or in fact to turn the difficulty UP, if we want a real challenge. So why all the hand-wringing and literal raging about what other people do?

Difficulty settings allow a lot of disabled gamers to actually have a gaming experience, which in my mind is a lot better than having to watch streams of a non-accessible game in order to experience it, because you're still the one playing the game. And the reason disabled gamers get to have that is that there are enough casuals who just want lower difficulty because they like a more relaxed experience, so I don't complain about anyone who wants lower difficulty. They're not robbing other gamers of higher difficulties.

[kaishi]

I'm showing my age here, but when I first started playing video games there was no difficulty setting. There was just the game. WTF are they crying about???

[(Anonymous)]

I can't tell if OP is saying people hate that the option to make the game easier exists, or that people are saying they shouldn't have to nerf enemies from the default setting just to be able to complete the game.

[(Anonymous)]

Man I fucking love difficulty settings. Sometimes I just want to run around in a cool world and not struggle. The fighting is secondary. And then other times I want to focus on strategy and a challenge. One of the best things in the evolution of gaming is difficulty levels.

[(Anonymous)]

Agreed!

And my disability gets in the way of playing a lot of games that are challenging and don’t have difficulty settings.

It really sucks, because I used to love the way games were challenging back in the 80s. I was an arcade fiend. And I would have loved Soulsbourne-type games if they’d been around then. But after being in an accident that permanently injured my arms, not only is it hard to play games like that now, but it’s very painful if I keep at it for too long. Especially when it’s tense like hard games are.

But the creators of games like Sekiro think that people who can’t play on their only difficulty level shouldn’t play it at all, and there’s hundreds of people that will put you down for even suggesting difficulty levels for them. For a lot of them, they feel like it would somehow take away from their accomplishment if someone was able to play it on an easier and more accessible level. That straight up makes no logical sense, as if an easy mode erases normal or hard modes in any other games. I know the other argument of “there’s so many other games to play, so play those if you can’t play these games as they are”. I could, and might already, but the gatekeeping will still never make sense to me.

I would have loved these modern hard games, just like I loved the old games from the 80s and early 90s that didn’t have difficulty levels. But I physically can’t play them anymore, and it’s not just the fault of my injuries. It’s also the stubborn gatekeepers. You can say what you want, but I’m still allowed to think that’s shitty.

As an aside, I like the way games are now too! There’s so much more variety and accessibility. Not to mention so much more Quality of Life changes.

[(Anonymous)]

SAME! I'm also very poor at action games (I don't have good coordination when using a controller, but my back is fucked up and I can't play much with mouse and keyboard nowadays lol), but I'm very strong at strategic turn based ones.

I usually play easy on the action/adventure ones (or normal if it's too easy) because I want to enjoy the flow and story and I don't particularly enjoy replaying the same scene. It breaks immersion for me.
On the strategic games I usually start with the hard setting and then when I beat the game I go up into lunatic or nightmare mode. I like the grinding and the repetitiveness of isometric strategic games, so yeah. I can repeat the same levels 10 times and still enjoy it.

Bonus: Having settings that you can change in mid game is the absolute best!
IDK, I just want to have a fun time. I don't get people whining about difficulty settings. More choice is better for everyone imho!

[(Anonymous)]

Enjoy your pain, I guess.

Thank you secret maker!

[(Anonymous)]

You're cool and you're helping keep this community going.

As for the game, there are a TON of settings and guys will set the game well above "normal" and then bitch that the game is so poorly balanced they have to bump it down for a fight or two. It's not poorly balanced, the (usually optional) difficulty spikes are part of the experience. Like when a irl DM accidentally kills your whole party off of some messed up dice rolls. And also there's NO SHAME in playing on casual/story difficulties you're able to have just as much fun as anyone else. Gffffff.

Anywhoo, the one feature of modern games I totally love is optional difficulty settings.

Re: Thank you secret maker!

[(Anonymous)]

Wait, this is about “difficulty spikes?” You can play as a necromancer. Undead are immune to fear. There’s a boss who can inflict fear on things with fear immunity for no discernible reason. That’s not a “difficulty spike.” That’s the game telling you to go fuck yourself.

[(Anonymous)]

What's this font's name?

[(Anonymous)]

This secret confused me for a moment, 'cause I only know pafthinder for a tabletop game. So it was fun seconds before I realized

[(Anonymous)]

maybe it's time for you to git gud, at not caring about how other people spend their leisure time.

[(Anonymous)]

This