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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2024-09-19 05:59 pm

[ SECRET POST #6467 ]


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(Anonymous) 2024-09-19 10:15 pm (UTC)(link)
You should definitely deal with that trauma. It's fine to not want kids. It's fine to not particularly care for kids. But calling them repulsive cockroaches that you can't stand the mere sight of? A teensy bit excessive there.

(Anonymous) 2024-09-19 10:55 pm (UTC)(link)
Real /r/childfree vibes.

(Anonymous) 2024-09-20 02:19 am (UTC)(link)
For the record, some of the biggest haters of children actually have kids themselves, and sometimes do the most damage to kids. And being childfree doesn't mean you hate kids.

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(Anonymous) 2024-09-19 11:48 pm (UTC)(link)
I'm not that great with kids either (thought I'm learning since I got Nieces and a Nephew who are all above the age of 3 now), but even before, that's an unhealthy perspective. They are people too.

(Anonymous) 2024-09-19 10:25 pm (UTC)(link)
Eh. I like cockroaches more than small children. Some of both can be cute, but I'd rather deal with the roaches.

(Anonymous) 2024-09-19 11:00 pm (UTC)(link)
That's nuts. I don't have kids, don't want kids, but saying roaches are better is super crazy dysfunctional.

(Anonymous) 2024-09-19 11:10 pm (UTC)(link)
I don't get how you're reading "I'd rather deal with roaches than kids" as "roaches are inherently superior beings to children".

If I say I'd rather deal with dogs than children, this isn't saying dogs are better than children. I would personally rather deal with the former than the latter.

I don't have kids and don't want kids of any sort, but some species of roaches make very harmless and cute pets. You don't seem to know much about roaches.

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[personal profile] sparklywalls 2024-09-19 11:10 pm (UTC)(link)
I don't want kids either but yeah, I enjoy my wee nieces and nephews at their most epic annoying meltdowns way more than the one time I was over at a friend's flat in London for a week and we unfortunately discovered a roach infestation. They were under the bath, we could hear them skittering around at night. Grim. Would not recommend.

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(Anonymous) 2024-09-19 11:09 pm (UTC)(link)
What?

If an adult is an asshole to you now (which is totally possible! Humans can be assholes at all stages of life), will you then start to hate all adults, and be completely repulsed by them?

What is up with you and that other secret OP? Dude, it's not your fault that your peers were dicks to you when you were a kid, but it's your responsibility to deal with your current dysfunction. Kids are part of human society. You are going to see them from time to time! You owe it to yourself to figure out how to deal with that trauma. Your life will be a whole hell of a lot less stressful and uncomfortable if you do.

(Anonymous) 2024-09-19 11:59 pm (UTC)(link)
This is an interesting comment.

People seemed repulsed that the OP (and I guess the other OP) have some very strong feelings about something.

I don't think it's so strange that some people turn bitter over their trauma. Especially when that trauma occurs during a formative time in someone's life. I agree they should find a more constructive way of dealing with it, but I don't find their reaction surprising.

It's also possible this is a troll secret designed to rile up those who don't hate kids, but my point still stands.

Different anon, but

(Anonymous) 2024-09-20 02:14 am (UTC)(link)
I don't think it's strange to see trauma turning someone bitter, either. But understanding it and condoning it are two very different things. I personally for example had a trauma response to a specific kind of car. Unfortunately for me, that car was a Honda Odyssey back in the mid 2000s, so they were everywhere, much like children. Everyone understood why I had a panic attack when I saw one (if they were aware of what had happened to me). But why live in a world where something common that I can never fully escape from hurts me? It's not my fault I have the trauma I have, but it is absolutely on me to deal with it. What right do I have to take it out on someone who wasn't involved in hurting me?

Most of the time, people around you can tell when you find something that disgusting, so it's not exactly harmless to let those thoughts fester. The kids the OP sees now didn't hurt them, they weren't the ones bullying them. It's just a symptom of needing more help than OP is getting.

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[personal profile] meadowphoenix 2024-09-19 11:28 pm (UTC)(link)
i gotta agree with anon above, i don't feel like people who express this (but aren't misanthropes entirely) view children as actual human beings, and it seems like it must make your days worse than they should be if that aversion carried to sight.

but if we're going to talk about the thinly veiled fandom veneer, yeah i wouldn't read kidfic in your situation either.

(Anonymous) 2024-09-19 11:51 pm (UTC)(link)
You’re the asshole.

(Anonymous) 2024-09-19 11:54 pm (UTC)(link)
I don't have as strong feelings about kids as you do, but as someone with a pregnancy repulsion, possible phobia, I'm not that fond of preg/kid fics either. I really dislike when people make fictional species that don't reproduce have kids too, you do you of course! But I get weirdly frustrated with it when I spot it in the wild... that's on me, obviously.

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(Anonymous) 2024-09-20 12:16 am (UTC)(link)
Man, y'all are a being dicks to someone about a subject they have trauma over. Not cool.

I don't like kids, either. I wouldn't call them cockroaches because calling any human beings cockroaches has some implications I don't love, especially given the current climate in the US, but still...I dislike kids and am not having any if I have anything to say about it. Which leads me to my next point...

ALSO given the way things are going in the US currently it can be very hard to NOT have kids if something happens, which is extra traumatizing for people who don't want them, so...maybe cut people some slack on this topic? Try to have a little sympathy. Yes, calling kids names is not nice, but as long as they're not harming any actual kids, it doesn't hurt anything for OP to hate them and not want to see any.

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(Anonymous) 2024-09-20 12:33 am (UTC)(link)
Several people in this thread are also missing that OP never called anyone cockroaches. They called their aversion to children the same kind of aversion e.g. visceral, horrified, recoiling, that other people have toward roaches. Not that children = roaches or that children = the status of roaches.

Replace the word cockroach with "spider" and they're clearly not calling children spiders. People are looking to be angry today.

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(Anonymous) 2024-09-20 12:48 am (UTC)(link)
You’re missing that OP called them repulsive. The secret is about them hating (not disliking) children so much IRL that they don’t like children in fanfic. I guess you’re lucky enough to not have been around any childfree people. They’re absolutely insane and many will traumatize children if they encounter them. It’s not surprising that a community that isn’t childfree specific is having a bad reaction to finding one of those people in our midst.

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(Anonymous) 2024-09-20 12:51 am (UTC)(link)
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OP never called anyone cockroaches. They called their aversion to children the same kind of aversion

Thank you, I'm trying to do too many things at once and missed that. That makes people's freaking out even more of an overreaction.

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(Anonymous) 2024-09-20 12:43 am (UTC)(link)
Pregnancy, I get. It's f'ing weird and I never want to have kids. But if your trauma from being picked on as a kid is so bad, you don't want to see kids...you need to go therapy.

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(Anonymous) 2024-09-20 12:59 am (UTC)(link)
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if your trauma from being picked on as a kid is so bad, you don't want to see kids...you need to go therapy.

Why? Avoiding kids does not harm them, and OP has every right to avoid them if they want. Why does that require therapy? I mean, if it was causing OP great distress every day of their life knowing that kids exist in the world then yeah, I'd agree that that could use some therapy, but that's not the impression I'm getting from the secret? They dislike something, they avoid it, and they're sharing their frustration. I don't think it's that big of a deal?

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(Anonymous) 2024-09-20 01:24 am (UTC)(link)
I'm pregnancy repulsed and not financially or mentally capable of having my own kids but I love my niece and nephews and wouldn't replace them for the world.

(Anonymous) 2024-09-20 02:36 pm (UTC)(link)
eh, i don't like kid fic or preg fics because i find them booooooring, omg so boring.
before someone jumps at my throat (because damn this thread is something else), i actually quite like children IRL (am a teacher and some of my students (actually my favourites) are kids), but in fiction and especially fanfiction they are ALWAYS boring with boring plot lines. who wants to read a boring fic? Not me.

You do you, nonny. You don't need to justify why you don't read a certain type of fiction to anyone. I hope you will find support and find a way to deal with your trauma.
I had some hang ups on kids when I was younger, too. I was heavily bullied too age 4-11, sexually molested by an older kid, but mostly my issues were from the facts that kids are usually way more chaotic than adults and I couldn't predict them and that gave me a lot of anxiety. I was a control freak with socialization issues. I got better with time and therapy.
Since becoming exposed to them in a working and familiar environment, I got to appreciate children a lot more. In fact now I prefer them to a lot of adults, lol. what i don't like are other adults around children, though. they are frankly ridiculous most of the time. I don't find kids "cute" in the slightest, I find them "interesting" and "intellectually stimulating", so I avoid dealing with adults with small kids as much as I can. The awkward moment of "I should say this small child is cute to please the mother/father" is actually anxiety inducing to me aha.

So yeah, in fics kids are usually supposed to be "cute" and not "interesting" so that's why i never read them.

(Anonymous) 2024-09-20 08:42 pm (UTC)(link)
Yeah, I am ok with kids in RL. But kidfics are really boring