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Because I'm getting tons of PMs and stuff about this: stuff featuring actual porn of lolicon/shota/whatever will be linked, or was supposed to be just linked, just like every other secret featuring explicit porn. But sometimes I make mistakes and a secret gets by that should have been just linked. If a secret is posted that should be linked or warned for, notify me in the name the fandom thread and I'll fix it as soon as I can.

Unfortunately, secrets about lolicon/shota will not be banned because some people think it's wrong or gross or whatever. Some people think fic about rape or gore is wrong or gross or whatever. Some people think slash is wrong or gross or whatever. I'm sure everyone agrees that actual child porn is a bad thing. Lolicon/shota is not actual child porn.

Once again, I'm sorry for letting #127 get past my radar yesterday, and will try not to let it happen again.

Comments

[spudjuice.livejournal.com]

While I understand that mistakes are made, please take extra-special care in future. To be honest, I was surprised that it slipped through, given that you must pay attention to the secret contents just to filter out the not-secrets, too bigs and broken links!

As a couple of anons pointed out, the material is against the law in certain major countries, including Canada, Australia, Sweden, Ireland and, soon, the UK - it's not merely a matter of being a "squick." It is covered under child pornography laws and dealt with accordingly, no matter how "not real" it is.

Personally, I was a bit nauseated by it, even though the image wasn't that explicit. Bit of a Do Not Want.

[gershwhen.livejournal.com]

Many times more than 1000 secrets a week go through here and I think he does an EXCELLENT job of filtering. Asking for extra-special care is a bit much. Less than .01% of the secrets have a problem? I'd love that success rate in a newspaper or real job. (Not to mention Technophile isn't even PAID to do this.)

[spudjuice.livejournal.com]

Filtering out repeats and not-secrets is so awkward and fiddly and a pain in the neck that missing a big thing, like something legally considered to be child pornography - is not exactly an "excellent job." He's working hard, but missing out on something so big that it shouldn't be missed, and I'm sorry but that just screams lack of due care and attention.

Also, call me crazy, but if a newspaper or a real job placed lolicon in public view, I think the reaction would be a 1000x worse than this. This is milder than I expected, truth be told.

[(Anonymous)]

Oh my god. If you think you could do this better, then make your own damned community and see how you like it when you accidentally miss something and people are bitching at you. Stop being so hard on the guy for making a small mistake, geesh.

[spudjuice.livejournal.com]

Allow me to explain again: I do not consider the mistake to be a small one, and just can't understand how it was made in the first place.

Besides if I ran a community and had made this mistake, people would be right to bitch and complain at me. Technophile seems to have recognised this and is taking it quite gracefully, don't you think? However, he didn't quite seem to recognise the legal side of things, and therefore I pointed it out.

[mad-lemming-89.livejournal.com]

(I'm so sorry to be so off-topic but I love your icon; what is it from? I'd love to see more by the same artist if that's possible!)

^-^' Again, apologies to everyone for the off-topicness...!

[spudjuice.livejournal.com]

Ah, it's from a comic called "Sky Doll." My copies were translated by Marvel, but I think there's another translation out there as well.

[(Anonymous)]

Oh my god, someone made a mistake. Oh my god! Where's my firing squad?

Wait- they apologized and said they would be more careful from now on. Hrmmm...

Fuck it! Doesn't matter! They made a mistake! Big mistake. Lock and load, boys!

[(Anonymous)]

As far as apologies go, this was really pissy and not in the least sympathetic to my reading.

[matinee-idyll.livejournal.com]

WORD.

[(Anonymous)]

jesus christ aren't you a bitch.

[spudjuice.livejournal.com]

Aren't you? :)

[yaseanne.livejournal.com]

THANK YOU for finally bringing up the illegal aspect. I was getting tired of people going "LOL UR PRUDES".

[karel]

Porn itself is also illegal in a lot of countries. There's a big blaring "nsfw" warning. Calm the fuck down, honey. You're not entitled to F!S. If you're that offended, here's a radical idea: leave the community.

[spudjuice.livejournal.com]

...wow. Dude, you're taking it more seriously than I am. Get off your white horse and come down to "sensible adults" level.

[karel]

you think so man? Nice backpedal, you're the one with the huge thread going on about how big of a mistake this is.

[spudjuice.livejournal.com]

I pointed out with my rational head that it was illegal in many major countries, soon to include my own, before proceeding to admit that I am astounded the mistake was made. And I am astounded - I can't understand how someone who goes through every secret wouldn't get all quadruple-cautious about posting it. Thus, a request to be extra-careful in future.

Polite. Calm. Reasonably stated, yet a different opinion to yours.

Just because the post has "NSFW" written at the top doesn't prepare me for sudden lolicon.

[leapscotch.livejournal.com]

Gtfo off the internet. Srsly.

[spudjuice.livejournal.com]

NO U.

Since we're on that level now, dude.

Go give the person in the post below me some flack for it, too, then! Not just me pointing this stuff out, yo.

[goatsfoot.livejournal.com]

Major props to you for arguing your points with idiots, with such articulateness. I agree with you, and also worry about how legal censorship of fringe porn might be applied. History's shown that it's the consensual (queer + kink) stuff that gets the most attention.

[kurenai-tenka.livejournal.com]

It's gunna be illegal in the UK? Guh? Lolishouta is definitely not something I'm into, but it's something that I would like to check legal specifics on

[spudjuice.livejournal.com]

Yup. It isn't illegal yet, but they're working on it.

What's worrying people is that they're trying to make any kind of "violent" pornography (rape fantasies, fetish, BDSM) illegal as well. Oh, and apparently adults wearing school uniforms in pornography, because it's giving the "illusion" of being underage.

It's completely over the top and silly.

[kurenai-tenka.livejournal.com]

ACK, that IS ridiculous. Does this only apply to things that are categorically porn, or can I expect things that have it in as part of the plot to be off the shelves as well? (Though I doubt they'd be that thorough..)

And banning things like BDSM? Wtf, are fetishes illegal now? >_> That's really worrying...

[sashwizzled.livejournal.com]

That's pretty fucking ridiculous. Thanks for the heads up, I had no idea. I mean, it doesn't seriously affect me, but yeah, on the internet? It's pretty damned easy to just stumble across all that stuff.

I wonder if it's going to be just if you're saving a lot of it/distributing it or even just looking at it, do you know?

And what about written stuff? If I read a rapefic, am I breaking the law? That's the next step if loli and shouta are out.

[duowolf.livejournal.com]

Last I heard they weren't going through with that anymore.