ext_82219 ([identity profile] shahni.livejournal.com) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2007-06-12 03:30 pm

[ SECRET POST #158 ]


⌈ Secret Post #158 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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Notes:

This is a magic post and I'm not really here. :D

Secrets Left to Post: 03 pages, 58 secrets from Secret Submission Post #023.
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(Anonymous) 2007-06-12 11:43 pm (UTC)(link)
19. You really will regret it, sooner or later. Go outside or something. :(

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(Anonymous) 2007-06-12 11:44 pm (UTC)(link)
Muses? Yeah. Guilty as charged right here. And if you're looking for them, it may take a while. I understand that there really is no one sitting around in my head telling me what to do or not to do--but something's still there, almost like the proverbial 'shoulder angel/demon'. For a moment, think of the actor who must get 'in-character' to play a part--when I picked up RPing again after years worth of hiatus, I had to decide who I'd want to play. I picked a few that I could either relate to or just loved obscenely--from there you've just got to try and get into their heads (so to speak). How would the character react to this situation? --to that one? As you go on and try to gain a deeper understanding of them, when you start writing, it just sort of pops up...

"Hmm...well let's see, Character A needs to smex with Character B..."

Excuse you? I wouldn't do that! I barely know him! I'm not easy! if he wants me, he has to work for it!

"...oh...*rewrites* oops..."

--a wobbly example, but one nonetheless... So I guess it happens like that...or at least, that's how it did with me. It's just a whole lot of over-analyzation.

And even still, some people don't ever gain 'muses', ad can just drop ito writing characterization at the drop of a hat--I know people like that as well. So having or not having muses doesn't make you weird, it's just your own style of doing things.
fishie: (tenipuri; shishido; your mom last night)

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[personal profile] fishie 2007-06-13 12:17 am (UTC)(link)
Best response yet. ♥

[identity profile] chikapus.livejournal.com 2007-06-12 11:46 pm (UTC)(link)
7. We can be Bff. I don't really mind what people like because it's there choice. Luckily, I never feel like anythings being puched on me. But um, don't mind you friends. Like and let like. Just tell them what you like, or give them your honest opinion. If their really your friends, they shouldn't mind.
hughes: (professional pirate;)

[personal profile] hughes 2007-06-12 11:48 pm (UTC)(link)
5. God. I know how you feel. :/ <333

8. Hahaha, I know what you mean. XD I've been collecting the American-released manga, and I KNOW it's not THAT great, but I'm enjoying it a lot anyway. <3

9. Honestly, I never understood why people loved FFX so much. ._.; The plot didn't interest me much, and besides Wakka and Seymour, I never really got into any of the characters. (Even though I cosplay Auron. XD;;) FFXII, on the other hand, I loved because of all the political stuff and warring factions, homg. <333 I EAT UP stuff like that. I thought Ashe and Vaan were kind of lame as main characters and Ashe got focused on so much in comparison to more compelling people, and yeah, the plot got weaker and confusing later on, but the rest of the supporting cast was so awesome and there was so much intrigue that it's got to be one of my favorites anyway. <3

Also, the character designs for the FFX people are way more conventionally "pretty" than the ones for FFXII, so I'm not sure what you're talking about. O_o; I dunno, maybe it's my personal bias, but your hatred for FFXII seems kinda petty. D:

[identity profile] eriph.livejournal.com 2007-06-13 01:21 am (UTC)(link)
9. I was going to write my own comment about this, but you said exactly what I was going to say about both games only more coherently, so I am here to say, "YES, THAT. I SECOND THAT."

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[identity profile] samuraiter.livejournal.com 2007-06-12 11:54 pm (UTC)(link)
To #1: Quick! Run! If they find out that there's a real Japanese person here, they'll eat you alive!

To #2: ;-) I think I know who you are, but I'll keep it to myself. There's no harm in asking for a little help, but, unfortunately, most of us are already committed elsewhere.

To #4: Ooo, Robotech screen cap! ... Or Macross, if you prefer. Either way, it's old school goodness!

To #7: Most of us seem to move on to indifferent and uninterested. :-( Old fans eventually turn to stone and become Buddha statues, I think.

To #8: The art style makes me crazy. (Limbs are too long!) That, and it's CLAMP-sturbation that recycles characters from previous (successful) series, so, really, after two volumes, I decided it was a waste of my time. Too bad the anime just came Stateside.

To #9: I agree, that was the last decent game in the series, IMO, though the 'fic was pretty much godawful.

To #10: I don't think of 'em as muses, so much. I actually made up a whole fictional production company for my amusement (and to provide nice IM away messages). If you really like a character, they'll stick with you. I'm betting you just haven't found the right one yet. ;-)

To #11: I stopped giving lectures after I discovered that the only person listening was me. -_-

To #12: Hey, I'd be thrilled to find out if one of my fandom friends had a thing for me. But I'm vain like that.

To #13: Sooner or later, you'll find a fandom that's just for you. Maybe you'll have company there, maybe you won't, but it's out there. I think this is true for everybody.

To #15: I don't think she's a Sue, but her speechifying in the third movie made me want to summon King Leonidas (300) for a proper smackdown.

To #18: BNF Syndrome. Use fire.

To #19: If I didn't have the computer, I'd be obliged to sit and stare at a wall for hours on end. There's really very little else to do where I am.

[identity profile] meganubunny.livejournal.com 2007-06-12 11:59 pm (UTC)(link)
6. I RP. I have ADHD. I REGRET NOTHING. But I do feel a bit bad for the more impatient people. D:

7. If only you were in my fandom. I'd love to talk to you. *Thinks similarly*

18. I feel like I'm one of those kinds of people. :[ However if it were me you were talking about I certainly wouldn't blame you (I'm sure I don't know you so yeah).

19. Again, I regret nothing. D: 9 years so far, on and off, for me My PC has broken down a lot over the years lol. Long periods of time too.
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[identity profile] friendshipbeam.livejournal.com 2007-06-13 01:08 am (UTC)(link)
Or stay in it, either. Actually, fangirls would prefer female characters didn't exist.

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[identity profile] longlongwaytogo.livejournal.com 2007-06-13 12:05 am (UTC)(link)
10. I don't have a 'muse' either. Stuff 'inspires' me, but that's about it. Sometimes characters 'talk' to me and that's fun but I don't think it's the same thing as what they're going on about.

19. As long as you're doing other stuff too, I don't think it's worse than any other hobby.

(Anonymous) 2007-06-13 12:05 am (UTC)(link)
What the hell does this even mean? Are there people out there who honestly think they're incarnations of characters, or something? Sounds like a psychiatric disorder to me.

[identity profile] friendshipbeam.livejournal.com 2007-06-13 01:07 am (UTC)(link)
No, that would be called "otakin", and I would appreciate it if you didn't insult people that were born in the wrong bodies.

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[identity profile] chakuura.livejournal.com 2007-06-13 12:17 am (UTC)(link)
8. Agreed! I can't stop reading despite the fact t went from pure crack to a typical clamp angst fest. DX

10. Wooooord. The whole muse thing really creeps me out.

(Anonymous) 2007-06-13 12:57 am (UTC)(link)
The fact that it's so ansty now kind of makes it worse. I really like X and all it's motifs but if I wanted to read X I'd read X. TRC feels like a cheap knockoff now. More than usual I mean.

[identity profile] dots.livejournal.com 2007-06-13 12:19 am (UTC)(link)
10. When I speak of a "muse," I'm usually referring directly to either a) my own ability to write, or b) a source of inspiration that gives me said ability. I'm not referring to some character that lives in my head or anything. The term "muse" just is a term that has come to associate with inspiration or creative ability outside of the traditional greek definition.

On the other hand, I could argue that I have specific muses, but it'd really not be true. They're not muses so much as characters that I've been developing for... around ten years! So of course I'm more inspired for them, and have a greater "muse" for that character.

[identity profile] luzerna.livejournal.com 2007-06-13 12:19 am (UTC)(link)
10. Sometimes it helps, sometimes it doesn't. You can't write a fic wrong. You can write it badly, but there's no bad method.

They don't yell at you, really, or talk to you at all. People just like imagining they do. In my mind, at least, they don't. I see little snippets of scenes or dialogue in my mind's eye, and while I don't call this "headspace" or a "muse" hitting me in the face with inspiration, I'm quite certain this is what people mean by saying it.

15. I LOVED ELIZABETH IN THE THIRD MOVIE (and her hat too).

18. Some people only use their journals for art posting or writing storage (or whatever it is this friend posts). I'm guessing your friend is one of them. You could probably tell her why you never comment but chances are it won't change anything. I wouldn't say your non-responsiveness hurts her unless she bothers you about it.

[identity profile] dots.livejournal.com 2007-06-13 12:22 am (UTC)(link)
And 15: No one's ever happy. A woman's a Sue if she stays home and is a damsel in distress. But she's also a sue if she dares take one step outside that role! My fucking word, get a life. So I THINK I agree with you. If you're the red.
ext_6137: Yoruichi is really hot :D (Default)

[identity profile] jetamors.livejournal.com 2007-06-13 12:27 am (UTC)(link)
1. XDDD Maybe make some more connections with Japanese-language fandom?

7. It's hard to find that kind of discussion on LJ, and it's one of the things I really miss from my messageboarding days. You might want to try Barbelith (http://www.barbelith.com/) if you can get past the eye-vomiting design, or Cafe Society (http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/forumdisplay.php?s=c690c6c3d09c52af93290c6f5267945a&f=13) at SDMB if you feel like coughing up the cash.

8. This is how I feel about Naruto. XD

10. I've never had that either. I just... think of a situation, and think of how the character(s) would react to it, and then (this is the hard part) muck around with the dialogue and inner thoughts until it sounds about right, and... that's it. Plus, I seem to have been the only person in all of fandom who never made up stories about fictional characters before being exposed to fanfiction.

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ext_6137: Yoruichi is really hot :D (Default)

[identity profile] jetamors.livejournal.com 2007-06-13 12:30 am (UTC)(link)
Aah, I don't even remember what I was going to say to 13... probably something along the lines that it's not as scary as it looks :)

[identity profile] pimmy.livejournal.com 2007-06-13 12:38 am (UTC)(link)
7. Your secret makes me miss when I was a little kid, when there was no such thing as fandom as much as there was "OMG you like ___? Who's your favorite character?" "I like ___, he's cool!" "Neat! I like ____ the best!" WE TREASURED OUR DIFFERENT OPINIONS. no arguing, no bashing, nobody cared that much.

[identity profile] crackjaw.livejournal.com 2007-06-13 12:45 am (UTC)(link)
1. Haha. I'm not Japanese, but I am an anime fan and I also happen to study the Japanese language. I don't think that qualifies me as Wapanese, even though I know some think so, because anime led me to become interested in Japanese culture, rather than being interested in Japanese culture to better understand anime or anything. Well, that's part of it, but what I'm saying is that they're kind of completely separate interests for me. I just treat anime like cartoons. </rambling>

8. Ha, I used to be like that! Theeeeeen it just got too stupid and I dropped it entirely. :(

10. I don't get that either. I always think talking about muses makes people seem kind of schizophrenic, actually.
ext_148661: (Salmacis: you are gay because.)

[identity profile] misheard.livejournal.com 2007-06-13 12:48 am (UTC)(link)
7. Can't help you, since I rarely if ever run into that. There's the occasional mild "wow, weird pairing..." but nothing more.

10. You know what? Feel lucky. When you know a character really, really well, you could probably have a conversation with them if you wanted to. That's my definition of a muse... and if it isn't as creepy as heck, I don't know what is.

(I mean, seriously. I don't want to know psychos that well!)

19. Amen.

[identity profile] some-kat.livejournal.com 2007-06-13 12:51 am (UTC)(link)
2. I remember seeing that original pimp and thought, "DUDE. That sounds awesome". But I haven't had anyone kick me into gear to join it. If someone sits down and reminds me constantly to write the app, then I will definitely do it. ♥

7. Y halo thar. ♥ Best thing you can do that I know is just test the discussion waters with little things that you don't care much about. Like, series that you know through passing or something. If you think they'll be okay, then move on to things that are important to you.

10. Closest thing I've ever gotten to that is a lot of OOC talking and jokes. Never actual voices speaking in my head, despite me joking about it a lot. No, you're definitely not the weird one, don't worry.

14. I would have read this seriously if you'd used spellcheck. :c

19. You know, I just had this discussion with my mother. And we still disagree. :c I've told her time and time again, things I do on my computer (writing, graphics, RPing, anything) is a form of stress relief for me and how I wind down before I go to bed. Ah well.

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[identity profile] crackjaw.livejournal.com 2007-06-13 01:00 am (UTC)(link)
Not passing my own opinion on this one, but what do you mean by that? Their spelling looks perfectly fine to me.

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[identity profile] friendshipbeam.livejournal.com 2007-06-13 01:05 am (UTC)(link)
1) Me too! Well, except I'm not Japanese.
5) I haven't played the games, but the fandom makes me want to play them. But being obsessed with the popular pairing, or any pairing, when you've only seen fanart and there's a whole lot of canon out there? I dunno what's with that either.
10) You don't have to chase after muses. Just chase after your story, start developing your characters. It'll come.
19) I AGREE.

[identity profile] stigmatize.livejournal.com 2007-06-13 01:12 am (UTC)(link)
8. AHAHAHAHAHA WORD

9. ... Um. Sorry to say but I'm jumping on the XII>X bandwagon. It did have PLOT if you managed to like, pay attention to the game for more than five minutes. A LOT of plot, in fact. One that was less cheesy and cliche` then Xs.

15. Thank you for finally saying it~

17. I would watch that. So hard. FLAME ALCHEMIST COME ON BANDAI IT IS ALMOST A LICENSE TO PRINT MONEY.

[identity profile] lottery.livejournal.com 2007-06-13 01:20 am (UTC)(link)
1. That is sucky. D:

2. I really need to join that game, nyarr. >(

5. Such people exist? OHMIGOD NO. See, I haven't played that game so I won't touch any of the characters yet because they're LAWYERS. Hence, you know, SMART, as I've gathered from most lawyers I know. Common sense doesn't often get applied to fandom, woe. D:

15. Ugh, I know. I think the only reason Elizabeth gets slapped with a Mary-Sue label is because a lot of boys kissed her. Which, okay? NOT technically her fault. One of them, at least, was against her will; another was purely motive-driven and not driven by romantic feelings at all (or so she'll tell people; fans can leave that to their own interpretation). Poor thing. And I like Keira too. D:

[identity profile] lorei.livejournal.com 2007-06-13 01:23 am (UTC)(link)
7. ..Talk to me? =D

8. Do I know you? Maybe?

15. I didn't think she was as strong in At World's End as she was in the first two :/ I hated her pro-pirate war pep talks, and she sort of bored me, too.

17. Roy is awesome. And his followers? Are the best :D

19. Yeah, really. What I regret is wasting the best years of my life in high school.

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(Anonymous) 2007-06-13 01:26 am (UTC)(link)
Nope, sorry.

[identity profile] derestissilence.livejournal.com 2007-06-13 01:35 am (UTC)(link)
2. ... hmmm, what is this game? *intrigued.

5. I've played GS3 completely in Japanese. Does that count? *<3s Godot*

19. Word.

[identity profile] comic-heroine.livejournal.com 2007-06-13 01:40 am (UTC)(link)
1-I feel you. I may not be japanese, but I get shit often enough from people thinking I want to be asian because of my interest in anime (i'm an animator, I watch cartoons regardless), cutlure (my parents love cooking asian food, and my asian friends have made me their 'guineapig' for thier family dishes), and language (I didn't feel challenged by spanish). And people of course think I'm going to move to japan one day and tease me about my asian boyfriend (whom I have things in common with. so what if he's not white, black or hispanic)

7-Sigh-I don't care much for my fandom's batshit shippers. It tires me when I just want to B.S.

9-I like X and I like XII. I don't get into that fandom much, myself. X had a feel-good day dreamy quality to it. XII is like layers and layers and comes off as a romantic french novel (not love romantic). But as for graphics, I think the fanboys are just as guilty.

15-Any character with a vagina is a sue, so says fandom. Damned if you do, damned if you don't. Total shame.

*couldn't resist*

[identity profile] xspin.livejournal.com 2007-06-13 02:13 am (UTC)(link)
1. Desu Desu Desu Desu Desu Desu Desu Desu Desu Desu Desu Desu Desu Desu Desu Desu Desu Desu Desu Desu Desu Desu Desu Desu Desu Desu Desu Desu Desu Desu Desu Desu Desu Desu Desu Desu Desu Desu Desu Desu Desu Desu Desu Desu Desu Desu Desu Desu Desu Desu Desu Desu Desu Desu Desu Desu Desu Desu Desu Desu Desu Desu Desu Desu Desu Desu Desu Desu Desu Desu Desu Desu

^ I've spent far too much time on /b/, obviously. D:

5. I want to play those games. T__T

17. Mmm mmm good. I wanted more Havoc. <3

19.Word. :D

Re: *couldn't resist*

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