[ SECRET POST #1891 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #1891 ⌋


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Comments

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[(Anonymous)]

There's nothing wrong with accepting hypersexuals into our conversations and spaces. We should stand with ALL people with non-normative sex drives and libidos, so why, in your opinion, aren't hypersexuals allowed? Do you think we should stop equating asexuality with anyone who experiences any sexual attraction? Because what about demisexuals, then? Or gray-aces? Do you get angry when demisexuals ~speak over~ asexuals, too? Or do you only reserve that hypersexuals?

You're being really unfair and yes, oppressive, here, and frankly I'm ashamed to see another asexual saying this.

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[(Anonymous)]

NAYRT

but uh, isn't hypersexuality the exact opposite of asexuality? So... shouldn't they not be included?

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[(Anonymous)]

I don't want to speak for hypersexuals because I'm not one and therefore can't understand their struggles, but imo, places like AVEN should be for anyone outside of the norm w/r/t sex-drives, libido, amount of sexual attraction, etc. Obviously hypersexuals and asexuals have much different struggles and are perceived much differently in a sexual-normative society, but it would be downright unfair of us to reject them completely when they deal with the same sexual-normative society that we do. Hope that helps.

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[(Anonymous)]

Okay, firstly, "Hope that helps" is a really condescending way to end your comment.

Secondly, this is just ridiculous. Maybe I could understand if you were talking about sexual aromantics but hypersexuals are the complete opposite of asexuals. It's ridiculous to say they should be included under our umbrella.

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[(Anonymous)]

DA

Why is it ridiculous? That's like saying it would be ridiculous for people within the asexual spectrum to be included under the queer umbrella :/

Discrimination doesn't sit right with me, no matter who's perpetuating it.

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[(Anonymous)]

NAYRT

Lol, no. Asexuals are discriminated against for not indulging in sexual practises that are considered 'normal' - just like others on the LGBTQQIA spectrum. Hypersexuals? Perpetuate normative standards of sexuality, conforming to the hypersexual ideal that is emulated in all sorts of forms of media. They're not oppressed. They're the ideal that the rest of the world is aspiring to, and they are the reason asexuals - and other queer people! - are discriminated against.

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[(Anonymous)]

I've heard some compelling arguments that the oppression asexuals face is different from that faced by LGBTQs... so I don't know. Maybe it is the same, but that doesn't mean it's wrong?

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[(Anonymous)]

Hypersexuality can be caused by illnesses and is not necessarily a long-term thing. Hypersexuals are perfectly capable of being asexual. Hypersexuality can refer to a physical need for sex, even if they experience no sexual attraction.

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[(Anonymous)]

Can you not perpetuate the idea that there's something wrong with hypersexuals and that we're "ill"?

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[(Anonymous)]

Are you thinking of the term aromantic? Because asexual and hypersexual are antonyms, as far as I'm concerned.

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[(Anonymous)]

Are. You. Serious.

We are ALL trying to deal with a sexual-normative society. Both hypersexuals and asexuals are discriminated against because we don't match up with the sexual norm, opposites or not, we both struggle to live in this world and because of that, we should try harder to help each other out.

And it's really disgusting to see places that are supposed to be safe for the non-sexual-normative be actively hostile towards others because ~they aren't like us~. How can we talk about inclusiveness and acceptance if we're going to be this hypocritical when it comes to hypersexuals?

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[(Anonymous)]

Well, fine, maybe they're both discriminated against but they face two completely different sets of issues.

Hypersexuals are too horny. Asexuals are not horny enough. They're both sexual minorities, but it's really disingenuous to lump them under the same umbrella and start saying hypersexuals are asexuals. They're not! They can't be! That goes entirely against the definition of asexuality.

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[(Anonymous)]

NAYRT but hypersexuals may have no sex for an enormous array of reasons (not liking their sexual options, for example) and might not even desire sex at all, but as long as they experience sexual attraction to more people than is prescribed by sex-normative society, they're hypersexual. A hypersexual might even have less sex than, say, an asexual who's in a relationship with a sexual, and they might have to suffer the discrimination of being mistaken for asexual.

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[(Anonymous)]

That's called being celibate.

Claiming you're asexual just because you choose not to have sex, even though you really really want to, is really appropriative, to be honest.

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[(Anonymous)]

um, no. hypersexuals don't belong in ace spaces, end of story. maybe as allies but that's IT. if they're hetero hypersexuals then they can fuck off and if they're queer hypersexuals then they belong to lgbt spaces, not ace ones. seriously what he fuck is so hard about this.

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[(Anonymous)]

Wow, dividing people into categories to be discriminated against separately. you sound like hitler

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[(Anonymous)]

Thank you. I know there are some reasonable asexual people who welcome EVERYONE of a sexual minority, but sometimes it's easy to forget :)

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[(Anonymous)]

Well, I can't believe that there's an ace who's so deliberately obtuse. Demis and grey-aces are on the asexual spectrum, they're oppressed as the same way we are. Hypersexuals are barely discriminated against in this hypersexualised society of ours and besides that any problems they might have are so removed from ours there's no point in having them in ace spaces.

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[(Anonymous)]

But hypersexuals CAN BE asexual.

And are you serious that hypersexuals aren't discriminated against? Hypersexual women? Excuse me?

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[(Anonymous)]

Asexual hypersexuals are asexuals. I'm talking about hyperromantic hypersexuals

Yeah, hypersexuals can sometimes be discriminated against but it's not any sort of oppression that renders them comparable to aces. Discrimination against hypersexual women is rooted in misogyny not in her hypersexuality.

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[(Anonymous)]

that is such typical asexual identity policing!

what if someone told you that asexual women face discrimination due to societal misogyny and sexism and not asexuality? how dare you try to explain hypersexuality to hypersexuals!

ugh this whole thread.

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[(Anonymous)]

Exactly! I have a hypersexual ace friend who physically needs sex all the time, but she isn't attracted to anyone. Believe me, it sucks to be her.

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[(Anonymous)]

We shouldn't just get to kick people out of the club however we want, because that goes against our core values of acceptance.

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[(Anonymous)]

Oh fuck you, we have be accepting and have to accept privileged people pushing in to our safe spaces. If only those uppity asexuals would shut up and let us sexually privileged hypersexuals in to the club.

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[(Anonymous)]

Wow, fuck YOU.

Hypersexuals aren't sexually privileged over asexuals, we're all non-sexuals and therefore discriminated by sexual normative society. But whatever, continue to care more about the purity of your own oppression than accepting other non-sexual identities. I'm sure you're making the sexual majority real happy by letting them pit us against each other.