[ SECRET POST #2007 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #2007 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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Notes:

Secrets Left to Post: 06 pages, 111 secrets from Secret Submission Post #287.
Secrets Not Posted: [ 0 - broken links ], [ 0 - not!secrets ], [ 1 - not!fandom ], [ 0 - too big ], [ 1 - repeat ], [ 1 - text secret ], [ 1 - empty image ].
Current Secret Submissions Post: here.
Suggestions, comments, and concerns should go here.

Comments

[fscom]

05. http://i.imgur.com/END4w.jpg

[ooh_mrdarcy]

I know Spider-man sucks, but keep it in for now, for your friend's sake.

Don't take it so seriously. It's not like you have to act like it's the best movie ever; if your friend brings it up, play Switzerland or change the topic.

[(Anonymous)]

Agreed. Sometimes you need to humor your friends. I have a friend who is really into games like World of Warcraft. I have very little interest in the topic but I'll let her ramble on about it a couple of times a week in peace. We share lots of other interests, just not this one.

If you become too bored, it is not that hard to lead conversation to a different subject.

[insanenoodlyguy]

>I know Spider-Man Sucks

BLASPHEMY

[ooh_mrdarcy]

I'M SORRRYYYY

BUT YOU'VE GOT TO STOP BRINGING HIM AROUND FOR DINNER

I CAN'T TAKE IT

[galerian-ash.livejournal.com]

I find it strange that you claim to be into old Marvel comics, then go on to list all these things about Peter you dislike -- stuff that I really don't think are applicable to older Spider-Man comics. Horrible teamplayer? I seem to recall him working just fine with Daredevil (yes, he threw a fit that one time, but I think we can cut him some slack due to the fact he'd just been blinded), Wolverine, Black Cat, etc. And let's not forget everyone he worked with during both Secret Wars! Rude? Not that I can particularly remember, aside from times when he was under extreme pressure. Interrupting funerals? I have absolutely no idea what this is a reference to, but I'd love to know!

All that said, it's not like I particularly love Peter. No, the one I loved was Ben. Quit reading Spider-Man comics the day they killed him off, despite having been following it since the very start.

[(Anonymous)]

OP

They're not the oldest comics, and they're mostly from a pretty specific time range circa 1975. It's also a little while since I read them all. But I remember him being a dick every time he showed up in Defenders, a show-stealing dick in Howard the Duck, and I think also a dick in some Fantastic Four somewhere along the line? DD only came up in the stack I worked through once or twice, so if they got on okay I missed it. I seem to recall Hulk disliking him though, and he's usually a pretty good judge of character. :P

IDK. I grew up watching the Spiderman series from the 90s, and I read the newspaper adaptation when I was a little girl. I had plenty of opportunity to like him, but unlike X-Men, I felt too old for him after a while, if you see what I mean. I'm not even slightly judging you for enjoying him, now or ever, but I found him too self-consciously written as young to identify with him after the age of about - got to be honest here - seven or so, and he's obviously written to be relatable (unlike, say, Strange or Vision or someone spacey and fun to read). He lost a lot of appeal to me when I started seeing him as this snarky youngster. Considering it was another few years before I stopped getting much out of The Beano, that says a lot about how he came off to me. He just seems really judgemental and quick to react, even compared to famously conclusion-jumping characters. Like Cyclops - at least to my mind - can be like that, but he seems far more likely to be called on his bullshit because he works in ensemble comics.

[avatarmn]

"He interrupted at funerals." Wat?

[(Anonymous)]

OP

Defenders, some time around #136 I think. He behaved completely inappropriately when they were mourning Kyle and Barbara. It wasn't actually the funeral for either of them, but they were all standing around at Strange's place absolutely mortified and in shock, trading stories of how awesome their teammates were, and Spiderman was (too young to get it, too young to get it) just being a dick about everything.

[avatarmn]

So over 25 years ago, in a book that no one read so it was about to be cancelled, someone who didn't normally write Spiderman wrote him being a bit dickish, and therefor he shouldn't be as well liked as he is? Got it.

[(Anonymous)]

Just stopping by to compliment you on your secret design.

(You should support your friend and pretend to like Spiderman.)

[(Anonymous)]

OP

bloohoohoo, I wilL TRY if she asks me to go. (If she doesn't, I'm going to pretend it never happened.) But thanks for the compliment - I'm still not completely satisfied with how the secret came out, but considering how many elements I was trying to fit into the space, it certainly could have been worse! ;) It was fun trying to find pictures for the six heroes at the bottom which used a similar style (poor Red Guardian, the internet hardly knew ye).

[(Anonymous)]

You'll just have to decide: your comic book elitism or making your friend a little happier.

[(Anonymous)]

comic book elitism, every time!

[elaminator]

But why do you have to pretend to like Spider-man to see the movie? Just go into it with an open mind (or at least, as open a mind as you're going to get), try to be at least somewhat positive for her sake (you're allowed to say "IDK how this is going to turn out"), and let your friend enjoy the movie. If you really do hate it and your friend loves it, then she asks for your opinion, just tell her it wasn't your thing, but you're pleased she liked it and you loved spending time with her. *shrugs*

Though as someone else mentioned, it IS good to humor your friends. If you think talking about the movie will cheer her up, you should ask her about it and just deal until the conversation is over. As long as you don't have to do this very day, you should be fine.

[(Anonymous)]

OP

It'll be several hours of my life and I have severe issues with coping with noise around me when I'm trying to concentrate so I find cinemas really difficult anyway, and the whole time I know I'll be resenting the film for not being about an interesting hero, judging the hell out of everyone around me for not having better taste, being angry with my friend for not branching out and picking an interesting damn hero to enjoy, and thinking about what else I could have done with a couple of hours away from work.

tl;dr don't often watch films; would rather read or fuck.

[arcadiaego]

Then don't explain to her the myriad reasons?

Are you an only child?

[zogblaster]

It's hardly unusual to have to compromise on something like this, and fake enthusiasm for the sake of someone else's feelings. Don't view it as watching a crappy Spiderman movie: view it as watching something that your friend is looking forward to, and try to see the movie through her eyes.

Don't, for the love of comics, turn it into a negative bitchfest in which you unload your negative feelings on a depressed friend. Stick to positive or neutral comments. Try finding "interesting" things about the movie, like the way scenes are shot or whatever, so that you can make a positive comment (I typically find even the worst Hollywood films on general release have interestingly shot scenes or effects or an actor really going for it or an interesting idea).

Try switching on the bit of your brain that laughs at stupid things. Also, your friend probably really needs validation right now, so let her know that you had a fun time and are glad she asked you along.

And if you must bitch about the film, remember that you can come on here as an anon and spew every negative thought, without your friend being hurt.

Re: Are you an only child?

[(Anonymous)]

OP

Not an only child, but my brother and I tried to pick films that both of us would enjoy, and when it was one that one of us would get a lot more out of than the other, the one who didn't enjoy it much would get to pick the next time. My depessed friend won't even give things a try. I know that I actively dislike Spider-Man - and I think I probably know him better than her - but she loves vampires and won't give Hellsing a try, adores Tomb Raider and won't try Uncharted, and despite claiming to like good films, made me watch three Indiana Jones films and then TALKED ALL THE WAY THROUGH THE LONGEST YARD. If she didn't pick it apparently it can't be interesting. Which wouldn't bug me so much if her interests hadn't atrophied some time around 2002.

Re: Are you an only child?

[(Anonymous)]

Not OP, but this sort of thinking between people only really works out if both can be open minded and willing to try things for the sake of the other. When you're in a situation where you're willing to give something a chance, but the other person won't for you then all that's going to happen is you'll feel resentment for doing something you know they wouldn't do for you. Not all people are like that, but I'd say most are. And it's only fair for there to be some give and take.

The OP's situation sounds like from previous posts that even if they gave in and sat and watched Spiderman that if the roles were reversed their friend wouldn't. It would be a gamble. They could go watch it and it might not be so bad and they could enjoy it. Except if they go watch it and it's complete crap they'll blame their friend for wasting their time. Sometimes in those situations it's best to go with the sure winner and avoid the movie altogether.

[(Anonymous)]

AMEN and I love you for this secret.

(Still though, you should go see it with your friend, some things are more important that a shitty superhero)

[(Anonymous)]

OP

*siiiigh~* if she asks me to I will, but she's driving. >.>

[(Anonymous)]

It's "the only thing your depressed friend likes the sound of"?
You stop whining, fork over £10, think of England, and fake it.

[(Anonymous)]

OP would feel more capable of this if depressed friend had ever displayed the slightest bit of interest, fake or otherwise, in anything she's interested in in the last fifteen years of 'friendship.' I'm OP and I'm tired.

[(Anonymous)]

I know what you mean. I've never taken a liking to Spiderman. I didn't want to see the Raimi movies, but I went out of curiosity, something to do and someone else paid. I have no interest in seeing this reboot. If it helps, from what I've seen Peter Parker acts like a pompous dick. In the trailers and promos I've seen I didn't see any redeeming qualities except the boo-hoo sob story that you're supposed to feel sympathy for. That's one reason I don't like Spiderman. I feel like the audience is supposed to take pity on him and let the things he does and says slide. I hate that shit. Then again, I could be wrong with the movie. They could take some liberties and it might not be too bad. Sure it's not a hero I like, but there could be some other elements that might make it bearable.

But I'm with you on not wanting to spend that much money to see it when I could see something else I'd enjoy more. Would she really be that upset if you said you didn't feel like seeing Spiderman? I know the other comments pretty much say to suck it up, but I don't think people should do things they don't want to do. It can breed resentment unless some sort of compromise could be made, like she picks the movie this time, but you get to pick the next one no objections. But then that only works if the other person can make compromises like that and it sounds like your friend doesn't like trying new things and would ruin the experience either way. If I were you I'd just skip it if you really don't want to watch it. Go see something you'll both enjoy and she can see Spiderman with someone else or on her own. It sounds harsh, but it's probably better in the long run.