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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2012-11-21 06:36 pm

[ SECRET POST #2150 ]


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(Anonymous) 2012-11-22 01:54 am (UTC)(link)
Okay, so what does it mean now?

And don't say "it's just an insult, it doesn't have any particular meaning or association with genitalia at all! It's just a bad word!" because that's bullshit and you know it.

(Anonymous) 2012-11-22 01:56 am (UTC)(link)
sometimes it's a fucking interjection

(note: that does not mean it is an interjection which is having sex.)

(Anonymous) 2012-11-22 01:57 am (UTC)(link)
Yeah, okay, fuck is used as an expletive too. So is shit.

They still mean "sex" and "poop".

(Anonymous) 2012-11-22 04:32 am (UTC)(link)
I've never heard the phrase "fuck this shit" used in the context of "have sex with this poop".
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[personal profile] visp 2012-11-22 04:54 am (UTC)(link)
I'm sure there's a website out there for you, if you're curious.
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[personal profile] diet_poison 2012-11-22 02:33 pm (UTC)(link)
Or lots of fanfiction.

(Anonymous) 2012-11-22 02:01 am (UTC)(link)
I honestly don't think you understand my meaning here.

Just because it's used as a swear doesn't somehow magically erase the root meaning of the word.


Also, I just realized I've been spelling root wrong throughout the rest of this thread. Woops.

(Anonymous) 2012-11-22 02:12 am (UTC)(link)
Yes, it means female genitalia. No, that does not automatically make it the worst and most hateful swearword ever, ever, ever. No, it does not mean the usage of the word cannot evolve over time. In fact, in it's original usage, it simply meant female genitalia and had no negative connotations whatsoever. It was a commonplace word used in regular conversational speech. The vulgarity and negativity came later. The impact has become lessened again in parts of the UK where it now a common mild swearword and, indeed, sometime just a descriptor of a body part. Guess what I usually call my genitals? Clue: it's not my downstairs lady-garden

(Anonymous) 2012-11-22 02:13 am (UTC)(link)
When it's used as a descriptor of a body part, it's not really sexist.

When it's used as a swearword, it's sexist, for all the reasons I've already explained.

There, does that help?

(Anonymous) 2012-11-22 02:21 am (UTC)(link)
Have you ever considered being less patronising? I don't require your help. I understand what you are saying. It happens that I disagree with what you are saying. I think calling someone a cunt is no more inherently sexist than calling someone a prick.

(Anonymous) 2012-11-22 02:33 am (UTC)(link)
I've considered it, in the past. And dismissed it, because I see no reason I should have to pretend to respect people that defend sexism or any other kind of bigotry.

You think. Okay. Well, you're wrong. Sorry!

(Anonymous) 2012-11-22 02:43 am (UTC)(link)
Ooh, I'll be sure to lose sleep over that.
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[personal profile] insanenoodlyguy 2012-11-22 02:52 am (UTC)(link)
SUBJECTIVE TRUTH RULES ALL. MY SUBJECTIVE TRUTH!

Mine tells me your a real dick. Grow a pair of fucking balls and stop whining, little boy.

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[personal profile] fuchsiascreams 2012-11-23 08:02 pm (UTC)(link)
..okay, but you can't say that everybody using that word EVER, no matter where they come from or what languages they speak, is automatically being sexist/using a sexist term by default. that's a really egocentric point of view. just because 'cunt' means something bad in America doesn't mean that it means something bad in a different country, where it may have a different meaning or connotation. by the same point that you just made, then why should 'fag' be offensive? because originally the word 'fag' meant something else before it was a homophobic insult, so in that case, no LGBT person anywhere should ever be offended by it, because hey, the root word! it meant something different originally! therefore it can't be offensive ever!

inb4 get called homophobe. no.

(Anonymous) 2012-11-22 02:01 am (UTC)(link)
you say the funniest things. you rant about "route" meanings (maybe you meant root?) and then you use bullshit

(Anonymous) 2012-11-22 02:05 am (UTC)(link)
Yeah, I mean root. Lol.

You seem awfully pedantic, tbh.

Yeah, bullshit is an expletive because it refers to bull poop. I know this. You know this. That's awesome.

Cunt is an expletive because it refers to female genitalia. That's what makes it sexist.

(Anonymous) 2012-11-22 02:10 am (UTC)(link)
You have invalidated yourself and it's hilarious that you apparently don't see it. Please don't stop replying to everyone because this is the best entertainment we've had around here since the USA election.

(Anonymous) 2012-11-22 02:14 am (UTC)(link)
Ooh, please, do explain how I've invalidated myself, oh champion of misogynist insults.

(Anonymous) 2012-11-22 02:25 am (UTC)(link)
You do know that cunt is typically used towards males, right? In an endearing way, yeah? Please tell me you know that and haven't been foaming at the mouth because you thought it was a word somehow used to magically suppress women's rights? You really do know that it isn't used as a derogatory term in England, right? Right?!

(Anonymous) 2012-11-22 02:31 am (UTC)(link)
Oh my fucking god.

I can't... are you trolling? Please tell me you're trolling, this argument you're trying to make is so fucking pointless and nonsensical...

Okay. Okay. I have to ask. Why are you so invested in defending this word? Why is it so important to you that people quit bringing up the context of it being a word about female genitalia that is used as a swear? Why is it so fucking important to you to completely ignore the context of women being oppressed by men, of part of that oppression being that insults relating to women and women's body parts being used to insult men (IT'S INSULTING BECAUSE IT COMPARES THEM TO A WOMAN FUCK THIS IS NOT HARD), and of insults being occassionally used between friends as terms of endearment? Why? What horse do you have in this race? What do you gain from pretending cunt as an insult isn't misogynist?

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(Anonymous) 2012-11-22 02:38 am (UTC)(link)
And jsyk there are plenty of people in England that regard it as sexist.

SO.

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(Anonymous) 2012-11-22 07:48 am (UTC)(link)
DA I'm English,too, mate, and is definitely IS used as an insult, and the whole point of using it against men is because it associates them with something female and lesser.

Surely you know this? Right? Right?! It's basic, elementary stuff.

Astonishing.

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(Anonymous) 2012-11-22 02:58 am (UTC)(link)
This is the best entertainment we've had around here since the USA election.

So that's why you haven't paid enough attention to your own elections since Tony Blair left office -- you've been too busy staring at the U.S.!

(Anonymous) 2012-11-22 03:14 pm (UTC)(link)
Well, that, and all our politicians are cunts.

(Anonymous) 2012-11-22 05:00 pm (UTC)(link)
OH NOES you're comparing politicans to vaginas you're misogynist!