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⌈ Secret Post #2259 ⌋

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Comments

[fscom]

14. http://img43.imageshack.us/img43/4446/fandomsecret2.jpg

[supermanda]

What's the deal with m-preg anyway? I'd like to understand

[klutzygirl]

Yes! I would love fpreg fics because it seems like an interesting concept and would be awesome.

So far, I've only found fpreg in the Once Upon A Time fandom for Emma/Regina (which I don't ship), which is explained with magic, but there needs to be more.

And now I desperately want some fpreg.

[omens]

huh, yeah! every time i see "fpreg" it's dude/lady couple. i'm going to think of this as fempregnation now :P AND ALSO YES, there should be more of it!

[visp]

Well, I think if writers want their female characters to have a baby together, there are still some realistic ways to pull it off without having to venture into complete Suspension of Disbelief areas. It's not quite the same with male characters. Also, there's that weird feminization thing that a lot of yaoi fans are into, so that might also be part of it.

[wldcatsprstr_14]

I think part of it stems from the archaic (but surviving) 'man planting his seed' thing that surrounds pregnancy in general. Cis-women have no seed to plant, as it were. I think the other part is that cis-women are biologically the child-bearers so there's generally a lot more mindfuckery involved in a cis-man coming to terms with bearing a child. While there are a lot of deliciously angsty places one could go with a cis-woman who accidentally gets pregnant and absolutely in no way ever wanted to have a child (one could even go so far as to having her have a pregnancy phobia), I think the whole 'I should not be biologically capable of doing this!' angst from mpreg is what pushes a lot of people's buttons.

Of course the 'verses where they're like 'yea (cis-)men have babies here all the time. That's just the natural thing!' hold very little interest for me for that exact reason. (i.e no mindfuckery)

[(Anonymous)]

Man... I got hung up for the longest time trying to figure out how it was possible that you'd never come across a story where a female was pregnant... you couldn't have worded that better?

[aubry]

Question from place of ignorance - does MPreg happen more often in sci-fi/fantasy fandoms than in dramas?

[(Anonymous)]

I'm the anon who "explained" mpreg above (http://fandomsecrets.dreamwidth.org/770698.html?thread=636534410#cmt636534410) and I will extrapolate from that explanation to say why there's no such thing as f-preg:

The "male" role of doing the impregnating is brief and boring. A meat tube squirts out some goo and then that's done. The "female" role of physically transforming into a baby-house is disgusting and amazing and much more visceral and engaging to read about, whether you're being titillated or horrified (or both) while reading.

So, it's exciting to imagine cis men experience pregnancy and delivery, but not so much to imagine cis women experience having impregnated their partners.

...Unless maybe, in order to impregnate someone, an author bestows a female character with a dick or a tenta-dick or some similar equipment. But that is kind of going off topic into another kink altogether.

[(Anonymous)]

It sort of makes sense, though. Slash is way more popular on the internet the femslash. Also, if you want to read/write pregnancy fic about a gay male couple, there's no option outside of the realms of fantasy. Lesbians are a bit luckier (they have to pay for a medical procedure, but at least they don't have to move heaven and earth in order to become parents to the same extent as the men). So, if you want to read/write about pregnancy for them, there's no pressing need to leave realism behind.

[caecilia]

I read one, a long time ago. It was Ginny/Hermione I think.

This probably doesn't count, but I have mods in my Sims games that let females impregnate each other. And some people write stories with their Sims so maybe there's something out there that has it.

[(Anonymous)]

Yes! I would be all over this. And somewhat related, I keep waiting to see one of those A/B/O fics where men have magical lubricating assholes and the ability to conceive, turn it around where the lady Alphas have magically growing clit/dick type things so they can fuck and impregnate their partners. I want magical ladydick and magical lady pregnancy like burning.

[(Anonymous)]

It has something to do with how most pregnancies in fanfiction end in the one giving birth usually give themselves totally to the raising of said child/children. Women usually get stuck in those kind of roles, so it's a tired cliches, but men? Not so much.

[(Anonymous)]

If you're good with werecats, lexicale's got mpreg and fempreg. (Well, actually, it's more like each werecat has a human sex and then an additional, unrelated sex that determines their possible reproductive role, so it's not exactly mpreg/fempreg if you look at it that way... and fempreg isn't the focus, just background... Oh, I don't know. But the concept is out there.)

[erinptah]

Here, have some recs. (I'm always looking for this trope, and will be watching this thread hoping for more!)

Stargate:
http://sg-femslash.livejournal.com/132209.html
http://sg-femslash.livejournal.com/133998.html
http://sg-femslash.livejournal.com/133800.html

Better Off Ted:
http://random-flores.livejournal.com/329135.html

The Sarah Jane Adventure:
http://ellisbelle.livejournal.com/12885.html
http://ellisbelle.livejournal.com/19008.html

Hellsing:
http://www.fanfiction.net/s/2866021/1/In_the_Family_Way

Buffy:
http://archiveofourown.org/works/921

Sailor Moon:
http://www.shoujofiction.com/TWillArchive/1wish.txt


And I've written a couple myself.

Madoka Magica:
http://archiveofourown.org/works/561869

Fake news (third multichapter series in the list):
http://ptahrrific.dreamwidth.org/130693.html

[mfirefly10]

I don't know that I WANT to see more of it but I'm not against it, if that makes sense? I find the concept interesting enough and if it's done by a writer I like, I'd definitely check it out.


I think I've read one fem-preg fic and I believe it was Sam/Keller from Stargate Atlantis but I won't swear to that. It happened via some sort of alien tech, I remember that much and there was an interesting exploration of their relationship, as well as a mention of Sam being a mother to Cassie.


Edit: The fic I'm thinking of is Sam/Keller and it's linked in the comment above mine. Thanks, commenter :)

[(Anonymous)]

There is definitely an Ann/Leslie one in the Parks and Recreation folder over at AO3 (Ann is the one who's pregnant).

I think the reason this concept is used is less is that there are more realistic possibilities to write a baby fic for a f/f couple- of course you can also do that with a m/m one, but then you have to somehow include the baby's biological mother in the story, and the person who is pregnant is not part of your couple...

[darkmanifest]

Read a fempreg (lezpreg?) fic a long time ago, in the Gargoyles fandom. Considering the amount of cloning that goes in that show, it wasn't that strange.

[(Anonymous)]

there were a few such fics in the Kim Possible fandom (where Shego/Kim was more or less tied with Ron/Kim for most popular pairing), if you'd be interested.

I'm sure there were some in fanfiction.net and maybe also in adultfanfiction.net

[kamino_neko]

A lot of people see lesbians having babies as being full of Unfortunate Implications.

I think that's silly, but, if I tend to keep it to the background of anything that's going to be shared in my writing just to avoid roiling these people up if they run across my stuff.

[cakemage]

Depends on what fandom you're in. I haven't really been active in Voyager fandom in years, but I remember the concept of f-preg being quite popular in the J/7 portion, usually with Seven being the one getting knocked up. The usual explanation was that her nanoprobes can do anything. Did see one where it was an Ocarina of Time crossover with the duo taking the place of Link in the story and having a lot of sex. In the end, Seven got pregnant 'cause magic.

Also, I could've sworn I saw a Fang/Vanille f-preg story somewhere a few years ago. Or maybe that was an Ambien dream, I dunno. I had some pretty cracked-out dreams when I first started taking that stuff...

[saturnofthemoon]

I know of two people alone who written fpreg for Battlestar Galactica. I also once stumbled across an fpreg comm on LJ. It's nowhere near as popular as mpreg but it's out there.

[(Anonymous)]

Another, a Doctor Who/Torchwood crossover: http://archiveofourown.org/works/707452

[(Anonymous)]

I think that we've got so used to the other lesbian cliches around pregnancy (i.e. hunting for the perfect sperm donor, and any joke involving turkey basters) that m-preg - a concept with no* biological or sociological reference point - seems more varied and/or interesting to write about.

[(Anonymous)]

Apart from reasons that have already been mentioned, there's also the unavoidable question of how a woman would physically get her gamete into another woman. Two men at least have a way to physically mimic the act that results in fertilization, even if the unseen lady parts aren't there to make it possible (and because they're hidden, the whole matter is easier to handwave, especially if the author is fuzzy on anatomy to begin with--which I suspect is not that uncommon.) Two women really can't do that without some sort of intrusive technological or magical intervention.