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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2013-04-24 06:46 pm

[ SECRET POST #2304 ]


⌈ Secret Post #2304 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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[Veronica Mars]


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[Trailer Park Boys]


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[Star Ocean: The Second Story]


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[Katekyo Hitman Reborn!]


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[Prometheus]


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[Katekyo Hitman Reborn!, Fullmetal Alchemist, Bleach, Zettai Karen Children]


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[Kids in the Hall]


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[Vividred Operation]


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[dick & dom]


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[Game of Thrones]


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[Spartacus: War of the Damned]


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[CATS]


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[Archer]


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[personal profile] kaijinscendre 2013-04-24 11:05 pm (UTC)(link)
Why? Of course the new movies/shows are going to be more popular.

They are new, they are more accessible to a greater audience, and they have hotter characters.

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(Anonymous) 2013-04-24 11:06 pm (UTC)(link)
aawww...don't be mad at the numbers, it's not the numbers' fault that people are dimwitted

(Anonymous) 2013-04-24 11:08 pm (UTC)(link)
People don't read books, obviously.

I know so many people that "love Harry Potter," write HP fanfiction, and haven't read the books. At all.

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ALSO

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MY LIVEJOURNAL ICON

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[identity profile] galerian-ash.livejournal.com 2013-04-24 11:09 pm (UTC)(link)
Yeah, stuff like that can be pretty depressing. I always try telling myself that it's because the newer versions are less intimidating to write fanfic for. The whole idea of must-mimic-the-style-of-the-original-author idea that a lot of people seem to have no longer applies, and if the fic ends up being crappy it'll feel less like sacrilege (in the cases where you have a very high opinion of the original, I mean).

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(Anonymous) 2013-04-24 11:09 pm (UTC)(link)
I don't necessarily think they have a greater appeal/hotter characters, but it definitely IS because they're new. The medium in which this fan stuff appears is more conducive to new fandoms than ones that pre-date the internet. Also, keep in mind that older fandoms had a lot of hardcopy type fan stuff, like fanzines and all that. People were still making the fanworks, they just weren't online. So, yeah.

Internet fandoms are much harder to cultivate in fandoms that aren't contemporary with the internet. It doesn't mean anything at all.

(Anonymous) 2013-04-24 11:13 pm (UTC)(link)
Yeah but the thing is, how many of those thousands of fics for the tv shows/movies are any good? Seriously, now. I've spent time in both fandoms, I'd wager the general 10% decent/90% meh or below rule is pretty accurate

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Even more annoying is....

(Anonymous) 2013-04-24 11:28 pm (UTC)(link)
Huge numbers of fics tagged Sherlock Holmes - ACD are in fact pure BBC Sherlock fics tagged by people who don't appear to understand (or possibly don't care) that readers will very often be using tags as a filter for finding the 'verse they want to read in. So, if they want BBC Sherlock they would use that tag to search, if they want ACD fic they won't want your BBC fic today.

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"STOP LIKING WHAT I DON'T LIKE!"

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[personal profile] helenadax 2013-04-24 11:46 pm (UTC)(link)
I think that one of the reasons, at least with ACD Sherlock and BBC Sherlock, is that writing about the books is more difficult. You need to know a lot of things about that time in order to do it right so unless you are interested in Victorian England, it's easier to write about present day.

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(Anonymous) 2013-04-25 12:00 am (UTC)(link)
I say yay for it - at least the crappy TV/Movie-based fic is away from the stuff that focuses on the actual canon material. Because seriously - there may be more fics in the other categories, but so much of it will be crap.
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[personal profile] insanenoodlyguy 2013-04-25 12:06 am (UTC)(link)
The percentage of shit is also higher, if that's any consolation.

(Anonymous) 2013-04-25 12:16 am (UTC)(link)
I'm not sure how much this might hold for anyone else, but for me, with those two canons in particular, part of it is that they were my childhood. I mean, the movies and the tv series, the adaptations, they're just any old fandom. But my granddad read The Hobbit to me when I was about five, and my Dad read the Holmes stories to me. (Yes, they were reading me stories about death and war and the occasional murder. What? I didn't get nightmares until they tried Watership Down, and that was "We couldn't get out!").

It's just ... I can read/write porny Downey!verse fics all day, because it's just a fandom, but with ACD Holmes suddenly I'm hearing it in my dad's voice, and that ... Look. That's not what you want to happen with your porn, alright?

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[personal profile] ninety6tears 2013-04-25 12:45 am (UTC)(link)
A thousand is a fuck-ton compared to some (probably most) book fandoms though.
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[personal profile] applemagpie 2013-04-25 01:44 am (UTC)(link)
This will always be the case when it comes to book/comics/manga fandoms vs. tv/movie ones. It also makes my bookworm-self kind of sad, not because I think people should be reading more, but because I'm the weird one who actually prefer print media, and can never find fanfic.

(Anonymous) 2013-04-25 03:09 am (UTC)(link)
Oh boo fucking hoo.

When stuff like this happens in my fandoms I'm just happy it gets more people interested in them. Not everyone who's introduced by adaptations is an illiterate moron.

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(Anonymous) 2013-04-25 03:20 am (UTC)(link)
For me, it's more about whether internet fic was a thing when the original work was published.

It's not that so many more people have seen the movie than ever read the book (though that's also possible), but when something new comes out, be it book or movie, lots of people want to write about it at the same time, and since lots of people are keen to read it at the same time, there's a big audience, so people write more, and...snowball. You can't get that kind of simultaneous fandom explosion for a work that has been published for years.

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THESE FANDOMS PREDATE AO3, MORON!

(Anonymous) 2013-04-25 04:34 am (UTC)(link)
Dude, those fandoms are OLDER THAN AO3. there is much more fic for them, you're just on the wrong site!

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(Anonymous) 2013-04-25 06:19 pm (UTC)(link)
Actually, they make me sort of happy. I'd much rather people use the new media rather than go back and desecrate the original characters and story. I bet the fiction based on the books are better anyway.

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(Anonymous) 2013-04-25 06:31 pm (UTC)(link)
wow

a lot of butt hurt fans who are perceiving they're being judged for not liking the original canon source of their fandoms.

look, if you like being ignorant of the history of your fandom, good on you.

but your butt hurt is really only showing just what dumbshits you really are.

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(Anonymous) 2013-04-25 06:34 pm (UTC)(link)
Oh no, someone enjoying TV and movies. Yes, that's very very sad.

(Anonymous) 2013-04-25 06:40 pm (UTC)(link)
I have really bad dyslexia, and reading is really very difficult for me. I'm only able to 'read' books when they come out on books on tape, which, until audible.com they were very, very expensive, so the luxuary of books was something I wasn't able to engage in.

Sorry if that makes me an irredeemable idiot who can only have entertainment force fed them through a boob-tube.

And yes, I did enjoy the first Harry Potter book. It took me four months to read. I just don't have that kind of time to dedicate to something like LotR or ACD's Sherlock.

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(Anonymous) 2013-04-25 10:33 pm (UTC)(link)
Maybe some of those people enjoy both, but prefer to write for the visual fandom because it's easier to grasp? I love books, film, and TV series, but it's easiest for me to write for visual fandoms because I feel like the characters are more concrete. That's completely different from the above anon's reasons for preferring visual media, but sometimes having visual cues and speech patterns helps an author's characterization become more consistent.
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[identity profile] mimi-sardinia.livejournal.com 2013-04-28 11:44 am (UTC)(link)
My personal thoughts?

I was rather "Meh" about The Hobbit before the movie. The book didn't grab me, not even the way LotR or The Silmarillion did. It was something to do with the way it was children's story that the latter books weren't.

The movie grabbed me. Yes, a lot of that was simply "OME! Hot dwarves!", but a good deal was also that the movie made the events somethign I could get emotionally invested in.

So I totally understand why the movie is more popular than the book.

Also, be glad of everyone who actually labels their movieverse fic as being that. It helps when hunting down fics that go deeper into background info from the whole canon, instead of fics that just commentate on events as depicted in the movie.

Also? A lot of fics double-bill for fandom. You'll get fics that label for both 2012 and JRRT(and LotR too, and occasionally for Silm as well). I don't know how true that is for Holmes/Sherlock, since I only read Sherlock in relation to Hobbit crossovers (if two popular fandoms share actors, crossovers will happen).