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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2013-07-18 06:47 pm

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(Anonymous) 2013-07-18 11:03 pm (UTC)(link)
Wait, are you sure you got the right Gaiman book here? Because I know Anansi Boys has had a ton of issues like that, and I really thought Shadow was white when I read American Gods (granted, it's been a little while, but still).

I'm really confused here...

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[personal profile] morieris 2013-07-18 11:04 pm (UTC)(link)
I got partway through the book & I thought he was half Native American.

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(Anonymous) 2013-07-18 11:12 pm (UTC)(link)
I didn't catch it either, though I fully admit I missed it in Anansi Boys (I don't feel very guilty about that though, I hated that book).

I swear to god if his name being Shadow was supposed to be a clue to his ethnicity...

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(Anonymous) 2013-07-18 11:18 pm (UTC)(link)
...I read the whole book and thought Shadow was a dark-skinned POC pretty much all the way through...

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(Anonymous) 2013-07-18 11:19 pm (UTC)(link)
It's not explicitly stated, but it's implied. Like, a lot of people ask him if he's part black/Native American, and I think his mother was described as having dark skin or something.

(Anonymous) 2013-07-18 11:31 pm (UTC)(link)
Really? He's described as having coffee-coloured skin. It's made clear that his mother was a black woman. In one of the very first scenes, a guard asks him if he's a [slur for Hispanic] or part [slur for African-American]. It kind of takes some wilful blindness to read him as white.

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(Anonymous) 2013-07-18 11:44 pm (UTC)(link)
Shadow's mom is described as dark, and she died of sickle-cell disease; I'm pretty sure she's African-American.

Shadow's ethnicity is never fully revealed, but his skin is the shade of "coffee and cream", leading people to guess that he's either Native American, half-black or Hispanic.

I don't mind people thinking Shadow could be mistaken for white, because Gaiman's style of writing makes everything ambiguous, but I don't know how you missed that Shadow was described as waaay darker than your regular white guy on several occasions.

(I read the book a few weeks ago lol)

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[personal profile] dragonimp 2013-07-18 11:50 pm (UTC)(link)
His mom died from sickle cell anemia and I think (it's been a while since I read it) was described as having dark skin. I always took Shadow as midway-dark nobody's-sure-what-race-he-is kind of mixed-race.

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[personal profile] ooh_mrdarcy 2013-07-19 12:14 am (UTC)(link)

nod

shake head

(Anonymous) 2013-07-19 04:32 am (UTC)(link)
da

Another anon who thought he was black, or mixed. dunno why, figured it was 'cause he started small and scrawny then grew up all of a sudden (and all ppl irl I know who did this were black or mixed)

(Anonymous) 2013-07-19 06:11 am (UTC)(link)
Irony here is that I started reading American Gods, found out Shadow was a burly bouncer-type, somewhere got an image of him having dark skin (apparently from the text that I can't remember), felt guilty for stereotyping, and forced myself to think of him as white.

Can't win for losing.

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[personal profile] morieris 2013-07-18 11:04 pm (UTC)(link)
Now you know.

*cough*hungergames.

(Anonymous) 2013-07-18 11:09 pm (UTC)(link)
It's a fancast most people pick their fav actors/actresses. If I was picking a fancast of American Gods it would just be Scarlett Johansson as everyone.

(Anonymous) 2013-07-18 11:13 pm (UTC)(link)
I disagree.

LUCY LIU AS EVERYONE!

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[personal profile] seventh_seal 2013-07-18 11:21 pm (UTC)(link)
I think it works the opposite way - people pick suitable actors for their favorite characters. The characters being the thing they love and have a pretty clear idea about (and imagine them to look a certain way) - which makes fancasting a non-white character as white a bit disturbing.

(Anonymous) 2013-07-19 12:21 am (UTC)(link)
Oh man. i remember this huge fancast of the DC verse from someone on Reddit.

http://imgur.com/a/5BNsS

[personal profile] seventh_seal 2013-07-18 11:17 pm (UTC)(link)
I thought Shadow was black not mixed-race?

(Anonymous) 2013-07-18 11:20 pm (UTC)(link)
His dad is fucking Odin, he's definitely mixed race at the very least in the sense that he's half-divine.

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(Anonymous) 2013-07-18 11:21 pm (UTC)(link)
Yeah me too! I can't wrap my brain around anyone whitewashing Anansi Boys tho'. That's...real special, that is.

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[personal profile] rbhudson 2013-07-18 11:51 pm (UTC)(link)
God forbid they ever adapt that into film *shudders*

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[personal profile] dragonimp 2013-07-18 11:54 pm (UTC)(link)
I can't say I'm surprised. I thought it was pretty clear that Shadow was dark skinned but there was never a OKAY SHADOW IS *THIS* RACE and without that the general public defaults everyone to White.

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[personal profile] transcriptanon 2013-07-19 12:02 am (UTC)(link)
[Picture is the cover image of the book "American Gods" by Neil Gaiman. It features a house on a green countryside field being hit by lightning from a sky filled with storm clouds. It has the blurbs: New York Times Bestseller; Author of Neverwhere; and "American Gods manages to reinvent, and to reassert, the enduring importance of fantastic literature itself in this late age of the world. Dark fun, and nourishing to the soul." --Michael Chabon]

I didn't think 'white-washing' was that big of a deal until I saw how many people's fancasts for this book involved casting the main (mixed race, half-black) character as a white guy. I'm just astonished how many people take "mixed-race" to mean "white dude with darker hair". What the fuck? That defies both genetics and good taste.

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(Anonymous) 2013-07-19 01:11 am (UTC)(link)
Am I the only one then that always pictured him as Dwayne Johnson? All big and friendly and muscley and dark-skinned and nggggh. What was I saying?

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(Anonymous) 2013-07-19 10:41 am (UTC)(link)
So, are people still fancasting Johnny Depp as everyone or is that fad over by now?

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