[ SECRET POST #2448 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #2448 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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Notes:

Secrets Left to Post: 02 pages, 051 secrets from Secret Submission Post #350.
Secrets Not Posted: [ 0 - broken links ], [ 0 - not!secrets ], [ 0 - not!fandom ], [ 0 - too big ], [ 0 - repeat ].
Current Secret Submissions Post: here.
Suggestions, comments, and concerns should go here.

Comments

[fscom]

06. http://i.imgur.com/dt86bZR.png

[(Anonymous)]

Good for Walt that he was able to put his criminal past behind him. Too bad for all of his victims who can't put it behind them, eh?

[(Anonymous)]

Besides Brock (and Skylar) how many "innocent victims" has Walter actually harmed/killed? AFAIK everyone else has been just as bad and guilty as he is.

[(Anonymous)]

He's actually killed a bunch of people by now. I mean, many of them are involved in drugs, but if the OP (and maybe you...?) is(/are) suggesting Walt's not bad because of his involvement with meth trade, then why would we just assume that, say, the 8 (I think it was 8) inmates Mike was paying off whom Walt second-hand murdered were bad guys? They could be just like Walt or Jesse or Mike and just unlucky enough that the show doesn't revolve around them (that's a joke, but whatever). I mean, some of them "had it coming" but Jesse never would've killed whats-his-name if Walt hadn't told him he had to, so that's one "not bad guy" that Walt's at least partially responsible for murdering.

And oh shit, what about Jane?? She blackmailed Walt but come ON, she was not comparatively as shitty as Walt is.

I tend to root for Walt as well (because no Walt means no explosions/murders/meth) but he's not a saint by any stretch.

[(Anonymous)]

Or maybe he's a person who's done a shit-ton of bad things, but just doesn't want to do this one good thing?

It's not like people have a "core" of what they are "deep down" - people are fucking complex, and they can want good things and bad things in equal measure, or in any imbalance you can think of.

When writers are managing to put that on the page/actors are managing to communicate this on screen, that's awesome and an attempt to determine "good or bad" probably isn't helpful in understanding the work.

[seventh_seal]

I'm so worried about one of the characters in your secret right now. Also, fuck Walt and his sociopathic self-righteousness. He's downright delusional at this moment, still lying to himself that he's helping his family. Meth cooks who kill people standing in their way don't really qualify for the benefit of the doubt.

[(Anonymous)]

What about Skyler?

[seventh_seal]

What about her? She was near suicidal at one point. Now she's succumbed to her pathologically lying husband for what she perceives is the good of her family. Are you saying Marie should condone her covering for Walt?

[seventh_seal]

Ok, look at silly me, falling for this troll secret.

Hank had to come and fuck everything up

That's rich and also a damn obvious cry for attention.

OP

[(Anonymous)]

Not a troll secret.

Things had just calmed down and gone back to normal, then Hank discovered Walt was Heisenberg and went after him, and now things are spiraling out of control.

[(Anonymous)]

again how many people has walter killed that weren't already as bad/guilty as he was

[seventh_seal]

Again? Have we talked about this before?

Dude, Walt poisoned a little kid. He watched Jesse's gf choke to death. Also, you shouldn't kill people, period. Even if you consider them as bad as yourself. Maybe Walt should've killed himself according to your logic a while ago, then?

[(Anonymous)]

By that argument, it's fine to kill him.

[(Anonymous)]

Jesse's GF, Jane. Some of those prison inmates probably. I can't imagine they were all horrible.

[(Anonymous)]

Arguably everyone who purchased meth made with the recipe he developed. His actions have nearly gotten Jesse killed several times as well. Then there's Jane, of course, whose death caused her father to eventually commit suicide. And the danger and emotional trauma (plus attempted sexual assault) he's committed against Skyler.

Walt's a very charismatic character and a fun one to watch. I don't think he's 100% evil to his core but I do think he's arrogant, self centered, and deluded. And very very dangerous.

Secret 6 - Breaking Bad

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[Picture is a photo from the White family photo album, from the TV show "Breaking Bad". It shows Walter White, Skyler White, Marie Schrader and Hank Schrader smiling at a beach and wearing light vacation clothing.]

When Breaking Bad started, I liked Walt and disliked Skyler. As Walt became a more villainous character, I started liking him less and sympathizing more with Skyler.

Now I'm rooting for both of them, and hating Hand and Marie instead. It would be one thing if Walt was still making meth, but he had just put his criminal life behind him, and he and Skyler were starting to become a real family again. Then Hank had to come and fuck everything up, along with Marie who's trying to take their children away from them.

As far as I'm concerned, whatever happens next is on the Schraders' heads.

Furthermore, I'd like to think that if I were in their shoes and discovered my family had been involved with some criminal activities, I'd at least try to give them the benefit of the doubt and a chance to explain before I tried ruining their lives. Especially if they had paid for my extensive medical bills.

[(Anonymous)]

Can we all just agree that everyone on this show is a shit person? To different degrees, obviously, but, leaving out the kids, nobody on this show could be called a good person.

[dref22]

I like this comment a lot. :)

I watch Breaking Bad without choosing sides. Is that too hard for people?

[(Anonymous)]

I almost feel like this kind of comment is bragging. "Hey, look how edgy our show is - like, there ARE no Good Guys, amirite??"

[(Anonymous)]

People who like very dark shows do tend to be proud of how dark they are.

[(Anonymous)]

I wasn't trying to brag. It was more like "wow I'm really tired of everyone arguing about who the 'good' character is when over half of the characters have been involved in the freakin' meth trade." I'm not saying all the characters are stone-cold heartless and ooh isn't that cool? I am saying we should all stop arguing on the ethics of drug-related murders by these characters.

[(Anonymous)]

I was pretty much meh about Hank until he pulled that stunt in the diner where he wanted Skyler to go on the record about Walt. Here you have your sister-in-law who's in a very dangerous situation, who's been acting traumatized in your presence, who even tried to kill herself in front of you at one point, and who may be in fear for her life from her drug-kingpin husband and you just want evidence to catch the guy. If you care about her then how about getting her to a safehouse or otherwise making sure she and the kids are okay and out of that situation before you try to get her to do something that may put her and her family in more danger? No, it's all about catching Heisenberg and that whole ego-trip so many cops are famous for. He's taken Heisenberg being so close as a personal affront and now it's all about his manhood and who cares how he catches him so long as he does. He's the embodiment of the attitude of so many in the justice system these days where it's all about the collar and the conviction no matter the means that I can't help but hate him now.

[(Anonymous)]

I'm on Hank's side. He almost died a bunch of times because of Walt. Sure, Walt paid for his medical bills but Marie let it happen without telling him. Also, it's not an excuse for Hank to let Walt go scot free, you know, considering Walt either killed or had people he knew kill a bunch of people off, poisoned an innocent boy, and the general relationship he had with Jesse.

Hank and Marie are no saints, but at least they don't kill people or order others to kill people off.

But with that said, I can understand why people still root for Walt. In a way I sometimes find myself thinking, "Oh, how is Walt going to get out of this? He's going to get out of this, right?" It's a lot like why I find myself wanting Tony in The Sopranos to live even though he's a pretty rotten guy.

[antialiasis.livejournal.com]

I don't root for Walt - I think his willingness to murder people, even if they were also bad people, makes him a pretty sick individual, and his manipulation of Jesse has been awful throughout - but I entirely get you. One of the great things about this show is how none of the characters fully understand each other. Hank's mind is utterly black and white - if you're not a Good Person, you're Criminal Scum and your life is worth nothing. We've seen Walt's journey and understand his motivations and the complexities of his character, but to Hank it just turned out his brother-in-law was Evil All Along and he has no capacity to appreciate that Walt still, for example, cares about his family (including, heartbreakingly, about Hank), or that he might really be out of the business and causing no further harm.

[ariakas]

Walt is someone who would rather produce an addictive and lethal drug that supports cartel networks that have to date been responsible for the deaths of tens, if not hundreds, of thousands of people - many of them innocent - as well as be involved in organized crime and commit murders (including, potentially, of children) himself than hurt his pride by taking cancer treatment money from old friends.

He doesn't get to decide he's not "in it" anymore and everything is wiped clean. That's not how the law - or justice - works.

However, I realize the writers are very skilled at their craft, humanize and develop all sides of their cast, and this sort of dilemma was exactly what they were going for :3