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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2013-11-08 06:59 pm

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(Anonymous) 2013-11-09 12:11 am (UTC)(link)
You and me both for all of that.

(Anonymous) 2013-11-09 12:13 am (UTC)(link)
Yeah that was pretty much the end of my brief attempt to get into Doctor Who

(Anonymous) 2013-11-09 12:15 am (UTC)(link)
Why are you even trying not to hate him? If you hate him for it, just hate him for it. It's a much better reason than say, not liking the actor's face. One that that any reasonable fan would understand. Anyone who's giving you shit for that is a rabid fangirl not worth your time anyway.
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[personal profile] fauxkaren 2013-11-09 12:15 am (UTC)(link)
lmao

The Ninth Doctor absolutely would have done that.

Like

Did y'all miss the scene where instead of using his magical time machine to let Rose have a few hours with her mom after her mom had been missing her for a year, the Doctor called Rose and was all "there's an awesome nebula and the train is leaving the station!"?

Nine could be a total dickbag too.

Also, Harriet Jones DID just slaughter a ship full of thousands of beings.

ALSO ALSO Ten is punished narratively for his actions because removing Harriet from power created the power vacuum that allowed Saxon to rise to power.

(Anonymous) 2013-11-09 12:19 am (UTC)(link)
it's not just that he does a dickish thing, it's that he does it in such a smug, dickish way

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[personal profile] elephantinegrace 2013-11-09 12:23 am (UTC)(link)
I think that scene makes a lot of people angry because of the sly, underhanded way that he facilitated Harriet's removal. I understand and totally agree with his reasoning for what he did, but I still felt really uncomfortable when he did it.

(Anonymous) 2013-11-09 12:23 am (UTC)(link)
He was being a dick after she had a reasonable argument in her favor: he can't actually always be counted upon to come and do what he said he would do, which was be humanity's protector in time of urgent crisis.

As for the Ninth doctor and the nebula, the sense I got was that he wasn't being so much deliberately cruel as just not in touch with basic human connection; didn't Rose give him what for on that, anyway?

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(Anonymous) 2013-11-09 12:31 am (UTC)(link)
There's a different between being a dick and being arrogant enough to think you have the right to remove a political leader on a planet that isn't your own just because you dislike the choice they made. Harriet Jones' actions, while the wrong choice, are not remotely the same as say the Daleks and were done to protect her country and world. The Doctor didn't have the right.

I'm not sure whether or not Nine would have done the same, but what Ten did there to Harriet to me is different from any other action he (or any other New Who Doctor) takes (apart from changing fixed history in Waters of Mars).

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(Anonymous) 2013-11-09 12:17 am (UTC)(link)
Yeah, this is why I skipped 10 and went straight to 11. I know I should go back to watch 10, and I might eventually, but rn? I don't see a reason to.
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[personal profile] cassandraoftroy 2013-11-09 12:46 am (UTC)(link)
The reason is in my icon.

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[personal profile] iggy 2013-11-09 03:19 am (UTC)(link)
Yes 11 with his forcing the human race to commit genocide against their will. So much less dickish.

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Context?

[personal profile] castle_anon 2013-11-09 12:20 am (UTC)(link)
I'm going to need some context for that. Because I'm having a hard time seeing the unsympathetic offense of "Does she look tired?"
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Re: Context?

[personal profile] fauxkaren 2013-11-09 12:30 am (UTC)(link)
The Prime Minister of Britain destroyed a spaceship full of aliens (like several thousand aliens) who had said that they would leave the Earth alone in the future.

The Doctor did not take kindly to that and said that to get her removed from power.

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(Anonymous) 2013-11-09 12:31 am (UTC)(link)
Am I the only one who found the idea that a successful and popular PM could be defeated by some silly throwaway sentence about her appearance to just be absurd and totally unbelievable?

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(Anonymous) 2013-11-09 12:36 am (UTC)(link)
Nine totally would have done that. I've always thought it was far more IC for Nine than Ten, tbh. It was a long time (in his timeline) before Ten ever did anything even remotely like this again (Waters of Mars). Both are cases of him abusing his authority.

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(Anonymous) 2013-11-09 12:44 am (UTC)(link)
Yeah, but Seven would have just held his tongue and then her limo would have mysteriously exploded or something. Three would have done that, shooting a fleeing enemy in the back would have pissed him off, One would have been okay with it and so would Six. Five would just have been depressed.

Every incarnation is a bit different. None of them would have been happy with the shooting of a fleeing enemy. She basically showed herself as no different than the non-human he sent plummeting to his death for trying to shove a sword in his back.

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[personal profile] othellia 2013-11-09 12:45 am (UTC)(link)
Ugh, this is my least favorite part of Ten's run. It's weird since I think RTD meant for Ten to come across as slightly dickish but ultimately right... But then he contradicts that with both the Master taking over the UK as well as with the third season of Torchwood, so IDEK.

(Anonymous) 2013-11-09 12:55 am (UTC)(link)
Harriet Jones shooting down the Sycorax is a pretty blatant allegory for Margaret Thatcher sinking the General Belgrano.

So to defend Harriet Jones is to defend Margaret Thatcher. Discuss.

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(Anonymous) 2013-11-09 02:08 am (UTC)(link)
The Tenth Doctor was just a dick.

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And now they need a new Prime Minister...

[personal profile] lex_antonia 2013-11-09 02:47 am (UTC)(link)
Keep watching. You'll hate Ten even more once you get to see the pay off. It's glorious. Watch until the end of series 3, and then please, please, please come back to talk about Ten's dickishness. Please?

Re: And now they need a new Prime Minister...

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[personal profile] diet_poison 2013-11-09 03:08 am (UTC)(link)
ARE YOU ME OP

Seriously I love that I am not the only one who felt this way. I reacted really negatively to him doing that. (Not that I was ok with Harriet at that point either. I certainly was not. But his reaction did nothing to stop what had happened. I felt it was just for his own vindictiveness and it was so underhanded and awful) also I was butthurt because nine only had one season so I hadn't expected ten to show up so soon
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[personal profile] iggy 2013-11-09 03:19 am (UTC)(link)
"The Ninth Doctor wouldn't have---"

God would people stop saying that? Most of the time it's not even true.

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(Anonymous) 2013-11-09 07:11 pm (UTC)(link)
Meh, I just rewatched the new series and I have to say, Ten is hypocritical asshole. He doesn't mind that people die sacrificing themselves for him (tooth and claw really shows how much he doesn't care about unimportant humans), but god forbid they should be allowed to defend themselves while they do so because guns are evil.

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[personal profile] arcadiaego 2013-11-09 11:45 pm (UTC)(link)
I hate to inform you of this but Ten continues to be a total dick.