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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2014-01-03 07:20 pm

[ SECRET POST #2558 ]


⌈ Secret Post #2558 ⌋

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[personal profile] kaijinscendre 2014-01-04 12:33 am (UTC)(link)
I don't mind if actors/writers/whatever are ambivalent or even express dislike for fic/art about them (or characters in regard to art). Because I would be freaked out if someone showed me fics/art of me fucking my best friend (or art of a character who looks exactly like me).

And I can understand why they would think all art/fic is like that because (as with most things), the worst aspects are what is seen.

(Anonymous) 2014-01-04 12:48 am (UTC)(link)
I don't know, I can understand being freaked out about art/fic featuring you, particularly the smutty kind, but to then mock and belittle the artists? Not cool. I think there's a way to dislike something personally while still supporting the idea or at the least not mocking or belittling like so many anti-fic/art people do.

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(Anonymous) 2014-01-04 12:39 am (UTC)(link)
(I didn't know Quinto was anti-fanfic...?)

I think I tend to give actors a pass on nasty fic comments, as they're the most likely to get creeped on and creeped out, especially if RPF gets in the picture.

And really, it's silly to judge anyone for saying "there are some really sucky fic authors out there", because there are some really sucky fic authors out there. Naming names is bad form, but acknowledging the existence is just... true.

However, I do find creators' opinions of fanfiction influence my opinions of the creators. They don't have to love it, they don't even have to like it, but throwing tantrums about it or making sweeping judgmental statements about all fanfic everywhere drives down my respect rather markedly.

(Anonymous) 2014-01-04 12:45 am (UTC)(link)
He hates Pinto (which is perfectly great and right for him to do, of course) and he can't stand Kirk/Spock.

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(Anonymous) 2014-01-04 12:40 am (UTC)(link)
Please, you know Cumberbatch and Freeman make fun of that shit CONSTANTLY behind the scenes. And I thought JKR doesn't like adult fanfic made of her stuff.

(Anonymous) 2014-01-04 12:50 am (UTC)(link)
JK Rowling just asked that adult stuff be put where kids couldn't find it easily which is reasonable. It was WB that tried for a while to purge HP fan stuff.

(Anonymous) 2014-01-04 12:51 am (UTC)(link)
Well, yeah, because they are assholes.

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(Anonymous) 2014-01-04 01:13 am (UTC)(link)
And I thought JKR doesn't like adult fanfic made of her stuff.
IIRC, she doesn't want it to be posted where young children can find it (because, you know, HP is a kid's book, so there's a way bigger chance of them finding it than of them finding, say, Game of Thrones stuff). I remember an ONTD article a year or two back that totally misrepresented what she said about it for the purpose of the article's argument, though.

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(Anonymous) 2014-01-04 02:15 am (UTC)(link)
Is this in relation to the Caitlin Moran reading out loud thing?

(Anonymous) 2014-01-04 10:50 pm (UTC)(link)
I thought the latest BBCSherlock fandom explosion was over the pair making fun of it IN PUBLIC, no? Though they were put in an awkward position by the interviewer, who should have warned them upfront how very bad the badfic she got them to read really was.

(Anonymous) 2014-01-04 12:42 am (UTC)(link)
Quinto accomplished something: ontd-pinto immediately went out of business!

Secret 4 - Actors and authors' reactions to fanworks

[personal profile] transcriptanon 2014-01-04 12:49 am (UTC)(link)
[Picture is actor Martin Freeman (of "The Hobbit" and BBC "Sherlock" fame), actor Benedict Cumberbatch (of BBC "Sherlock" fame), writer J.K. Rowling (wrote the "Harry Potter" books), and actor Zachary Quinto (of "Heroes" and "Star Trek" reboot fame).]

I recently realized that I judge people by the way they react to fanart or fanfic. If they are supportive of it or at least act decent about it, I immediately think higher of them and like them more for it. So these three (Martin Freeman, Benedict Cumberbatch, J.K. Rowling) for example are A-okay in my book... ...While I immediately lost all respect for Zachary Quinto and thought he was a total douchebag when he made some dumb remarks about fic authors or something.

This is especially weird because I neither draw nor write fanfic and only very occasionally read it. I don't know why my feelings about it are so strong.

(Anonymous) 2014-01-04 12:49 am (UTC)(link)
The thing about Zach kinda pisses me off. It's probably because he went after the ship that started everything. I mean, it's Kirk/Spock for crying out loud. The ship that gave slash it's name. To say that Kirk and Spock "are just friends" seems mean and pointless. What slash ship is more harmless than Kirk/Spock?

The second reason why I am particularly upset is because he actively shipped Mohinder and Sylar in Heroes, going as far to mention possible shipper names. The only reason I can think of is that Star Trek is much much bigger than Heroes and the added pressure of a large franchise makes it harder to accept? I don't know. I don't even ship Kirk/Spock, persay, but I accept its popularity and status among pop culture.

(Anonymous) 2014-01-04 12:52 am (UTC)(link)
He wants people to focus on his character (weakly, so, so weakly) sexing up Uhura.

(Anonymous) 2014-01-04 12:56 am (UTC)(link)
So he's a highly opinionated shipper who's not willing to humor others' pairings even if they're popular.

That's definitely obnoxious, but I wouldn't put it in the anti-fanfic category.

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(Anonymous) 2014-01-04 12:58 am (UTC)(link)
He probably doesn't want to be "that gay guy" encouraging something that's antithetical to his big moneymaker.
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[personal profile] ibbity 2014-01-04 01:47 am (UTC)(link)
"To say that Kirk and Spock "are just friends" seems mean and pointless."

In fairness it is actually canon. Fanon is not canon, no matter how hard people wish it to be, and K/S is fanon.

Also, no one is obliged to ship anything they don't want to, and just because someone likes ONE slash ship, that does not mean they must like ALL slash ships, particularly if they are personally involved.
Edited 2014-01-04 01:48 (UTC)

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[personal profile] cbrachyrhynchos 2014-01-04 04:23 am (UTC)(link)
To say that Kirk and Spock "are just friends" seems mean and pointless.

Oh no! Heaven forbid that an actor interpret the script he is given in light of prior performances rather than the script you want him to perform.

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(Anonymous) 2014-01-06 06:37 pm (UTC)(link)
yet, the patented entitled spirk fan is showing here, tbh.

"To say that Kirk and Spock "are just friends" seems mean and pointless."

it's the truth and his only responsibility as an actor is making you buy their friendship, not other things.
I can think about a million of mean words and "friends" is not one of them.

(Anonymous) 2014-01-04 12:56 am (UTC)(link)
LOL. You must be Orlando Jones biggest fan!
I'm just happy that the two who get paired the most in my fandom are fine with it. :)
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[personal profile] sootyowl 2014-01-04 01:11 am (UTC)(link)
Orlando Jones is a beautiful fandom creature that must have been an actual fandomer before SH. He must have.

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(Anonymous) 2014-01-04 01:28 am (UTC)(link)
my favs are the ones who are One of Us, like Orlando Jones with his love of shipping and George Blagden who loves All the Fanart

(Anonymous) 2014-01-04 03:55 am (UTC)(link)
Semi related but I died when I found out apparently Ian McKellen trolls Martin Freeman by sending him slash fanart. Ian Mckellen is so great <3

I can understand how actors/creators may not want much to do with the smutty side, but I do think it's in their best interest to be at least respectful about it. And I don't at all understand those that are entirely against it (even the non smutty stuff) but I'm also apart of the animation/comics community and tons of professionals get their start drawing fanart and continue to do it into their career. It's just another way to express yourself artistically, I don't see the reason for turning down your nose at it.

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(Anonymous) 2014-01-06 06:07 pm (UTC)(link)
perhaps you didn't like the fact that ZQ didn't want to validate your ship?
He's entitled to think that fanfictions are a loss of time, you know, especially if his only experience with this subculture is those fans who keep asking him if he likes kirk/spock slash even though he had said he wasn't interested already, show him porn fanarts and ask him if he's fucking one of his friends (Pine).
sorry but Quinto - a gay man in real life whose homosexuality is used as a pretext to validate someone's slash ship - gets my sympathy more than a bunch of fangirls whose feelings are hurt because the actors are humans too and they might like or not like their thing.