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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2014-02-20 06:53 pm

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Cultural Appropriation

(Anonymous) 2014-02-21 12:07 am (UTC)(link)
Remember how the usual suspects here said that no one would ever talk about eating different cultures foods as being appropriation and that's just an anti-sjw strawman?

http://groupthink.jezebel.com/cultural-appropriation-of-food-1525694664
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Re: Cultural Appropriation

[personal profile] comradesmiler 2014-02-21 12:09 am (UTC)(link)
oh god, why did I go there?

Re: Cultural Appropriation

(Anonymous) 2014-02-21 12:10 am (UTC)(link)
Jezebel is pretty much a joke at this point and in no way represents what most social justice people think. Also, that isn't talking about the eating of the food so much as the fetishizing of them as foreign and therefore exotic.
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[personal profile] lunabee34 2014-02-21 03:16 am (UTC)(link)
yeah. I still go there because every now and again they report on something i'm not seeing anywhere else, but mostly it's gone to crap.

Re: Cultural Appropriation

(Anonymous) 2014-02-21 12:10 am (UTC)(link)
I am starting to really hate this term. Which is sad, since it's something that comes up a lot as an anthropologist. But it seems to be the hot new word SJWs like to use without fully understanding what the hell they're talking about.
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Hi, moron

[personal profile] chardmonster 2014-02-21 12:11 am (UTC)(link)
Am I supposed to be offended by this very simple comic about how liking curry doesn't give you some kind of in depth cultural understanding you weird broken internet person

It's like when people act like they're worldly and cosmopolitan because they eat hummus and grape leaves and kebabs. Dude. It's just yummy chickpea dip.

It doesn't make you special. It doesn't even make you fancy.
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Re: Hi, moron

(Anonymous) 2014-02-21 12:16 am (UTC)(link)
No one is telling you to be offended or not offended by anything. I wish people would stop with that silliness.

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(Anonymous) 2014-02-21 12:22 am (UTC)(link)
talking about the comments bub

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[personal profile] the_missing_y 2014-02-21 09:13 am (UTC)(link)
Minor thing, but you started this whole... thing off with "Hi, moron"
Could you maybe not do that? I mean, do what you gotta do, but was it really necessary to kick things off with a personal attack?

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Re: Cultural Appropriation

[personal profile] morieris 2014-02-21 12:13 am (UTC)(link)
I'd be so much more willing to read that comic if the font was legible, Jesus.

Re: Cultural Appropriation

(Anonymous) 2014-02-21 12:15 am (UTC)(link)
Eh... I've seen people claim that it's something like appropriation when you have white (and usually male) chefs who are the "expert" on food from some other culture, like a white American guy who is the "best" (most famous) chef of Mexican or Japanese or Indian food, or something. I can sort of see their point... what about the people actually from that culture who have been cooking that stuff all their lives? But if just EATING another culture's food is appropriation, that's pretty ridiculous. And annoying because I like a lot of food from other cultures.
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Re: Cultural Appropriation

[personal profile] morieris 2014-02-21 12:19 am (UTC)(link)
From what I could catch, it's pretty much in the vein of what you were saying; Someone not of that race seems to think they have some great understanding (or 'street food street cred') from simply eating food from another culture.

Re: Cultural Appropriation

(Anonymous) 2014-02-21 02:41 pm (UTC)(link)
White American Chefs are also "experts" on Italian and French cuisine. It's obnoxious, but it's not a white vs POC issue specifically.
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[personal profile] ill_omened 2014-02-21 12:17 am (UTC)(link)
Bloody hell, the people in the comments talking about how they avoid any 'ethnic' place with white people in it, and act as if this makes them special or more tolerant.

Tell them I hate them.

(and also take them to a real chinese place in china)

Re: Cultural Appropriation

(Anonymous) 2014-02-21 12:23 am (UTC)(link)
You know, I think they are right! And I propose a solution. To keep races and cultures from mixing, we should try to...separate groups of people. Perhaps, we should measure each person's melanin levels and send them all the countries with similar melanin levels. I think building some large fences to prevent accidental mixing would also be important!
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Re: Cultural Appropriation

[personal profile] kallanda_lee 2014-02-21 12:25 am (UTC)(link)
Also separate drinking fountains for when they do have to be in the same space somehow.

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MY fav article from a tumblerite on this: I HAVE STRONG FEELINGS ABOUT RICE!

[personal profile] kallanda_lee 2014-02-21 12:23 am (UTC)(link)
Read it, and weep, weep for humanity:

http://queerandpresentdanger.tumblr.com/post/70015687820
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Re: MY fav article from a tumblerite on this: I HAVE STRONG FEELINGS ABOUT RICE!

[personal profile] iceyred 2014-02-21 12:29 am (UTC)(link)
Overreactions about kitchen appliances. I didn't know rice cookers were made for anyone except people who need to cook lots of rice. Apparently, race is involved in it.

That shit was funny.

Re: Cultural Appropriation

(Anonymous) 2014-02-21 12:38 am (UTC)(link)
Are they trying to be sarcastic using "groupthink" in their forum title? Cause in psychology, that term isn't really seen as a positive thing.

Also is food cultural approbation really a thing now? Like I get it being stupid if someone was saying that because they eat ramen they now know what it's like to live in Japan even if they've never been to the country. But just eating a food alone or wanting to know about a specific culture while having a discussion with people from that culture isn't a bad thing. The spreading of knowledge is power, and frankly I like telling people about jai if they're vegetarians who like Chinese food.
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Re: Cultural Appropriation

[personal profile] starphotographs 2014-02-21 12:38 am (UTC)(link)
I don't like that the way the noodles are drawn makes it look like the dude is eating hair. :|
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Re: Cultural Appropriation

[personal profile] rubbertea 2014-02-21 12:40 am (UTC)(link)
Why did that person write their argument in comic form when they obviously can't draw? Wouldn't it be simpler to just write it as part of the article?

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[personal profile] applemagpie 2014-02-21 01:08 am (UTC)(link)
Uh, I actually agree with the comic, and most of the comments? On the point that people's obsession with the 'authenticity' regarding 'ethnic food' is usually ridiculous, at least.
For example, if I go to a Japanese restaurant with someone who isn't Japanese, and they're super hung up on eating the food 'properly', because it's authentic, I just find it kind of weird- and this has happened to me several times. If you're really into sushi etiquette and Japanese culture, that's cool, but the authentic part of it makes no sense to me. They give more of a crap about that kind of thing than my family that is Japanese does.
(Even worse, is when someone non-Japanese tries to school me on how to eat the food "properly", because they don't know that I'm half Japanese. Annoys me so fucking much.)

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Re: Cultural Appropriation

[personal profile] insanenoodlyguy 2014-02-21 01:20 am (UTC)(link)
You chose a shitty example.

I mean, I actually specifically tried Kimchi on pizza (and loved it) cause somebody said doing that was raping a culture and fuck them. I know this shit exists.

Maybe the rest of that comic is crazy? But that last page says "Look, it's food, don't make it more then fucking food." which seems pretty sane and reasonable.

Or is that your goal? Is this just a shitty troll?

2/10 you should have ranted about this thing if you were trying to go for that.

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Re: Cultural Appropriation

[personal profile] silvereriena 2014-02-21 01:31 am (UTC)(link)
That's not really cultural appropriation and the comic actually makes a good point. There are some people who'll make too big a deal over authenticity (without necessarily knowing much about it) and wanting to be overly ceremonial about eating something when really they're eating something that's about as revered as a sandwich.