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⌈ Secret Post #2637 ⌋

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[fscom]

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Re: tb1

[sarillia]

Thank you.

I see this with things like people with service dogs that everyone suspects they don't need too. People assume that they don't need it and go on a tirade about how that makes everyone suspicious of people who legitimately need them and they are completely lacking in self-awareness as they do exactly the thing that they're supposedly trying to prevent.

Re: tb1

[(Anonymous)]

THIS THIS THIS THIS THIS. I will admit sometimes I'm not in the mood to see mental health stuff all over tumblr (because I go to these places for fun escapism, not to talk about my issues.) But this bullshit of "oh, these FAKERS are really hurting you so much" is just NOT TRUE.

You know what actually hurts me? People belittling and demeaning my problems in the disguise of "oh but I'm really talking about fakers." I also don't like that this brings about an attitude of "oh, well let's just not talk about it" when that is a huge issue in regards to mental health. People need to be educated about it, they need to talk about it, and so many people don't seek treatment because they are afraid and that needs to stop.

Re: tb1

[riddian]

Came here to say pretty much this.

Re: tb1

[(Anonymous)]

I think the OP's point was that it's now harder to tell who is really suffering and who is just saying they are for the attention. In which case, they aren't the arbiter because they don't know who to believe in the first place.

[feotakahari]

Depression is one of the most common mental illnesses. It's to be expected that a lot of people in fandom have it, since a lot of people in general have it.

[diet_poison]

And especially because it's widely accepted that people in fandom are more likely to be mentally ill than people in the general populace, given that it's an escape and all that.

n!s

[(Anonymous)]

something being targeted at children does not render it immune to criticism, and just because disney has never been good at cultural representation does not mean that people aren't allowed to be disappointed they still haven't improved after all these years.

tb

[rubbertea]

what even is a 'legitimate problem'? no seriously, i wanna know

some people would have you believed that the only legitimate problems are, like, starvation or something

so let me spell it out for you: if a problem, as inconsequential as it may seem to you, is important to someone, then it is a legitimate problem

Re: tb

[(Anonymous)]

DA

I thought something was only a problem if it interfered with your ability to function? Because when I was depressed, it literally interfered with my ability to function. Like, whining about it on the Internet, would have first required the ability to muster up the wherewithal to actually get on the computer in the first place. Which definitely wasn't happening. I watched endless hours of TV because that was the only thing that really let me zone out and get out of my own head. But interaction? With others? On the Internet? A world of NO.

TB1

[intrigueing]

On whose authority? Yours? Is there some kind of standardized test?

n!s

[(Anonymous)]

I have not seen Frozen yet and I generally avoid the Disney fandom, so I don't know the details of this controversy. However, your argument bothers me.

Just because something is aimed at children doesn't mean it's ok for it to misrepresent real cultures. True, childrens' minds don't work the same way as those of adults, but they DO internalize messages they get from fiction. Often when an adult has wrong and ignorant ideas about a culture, it's because they learned those ideas from depictions of that culture in media when they were a child.

Furthermore, children are not stupid, and they are much better at picking up on subtleties than people like you give them credit for.

Re: n!s

[gondremark]

Furthermore, children are not stupid, and they are much better at picking up on subtleties than people like you give them credit for.

Thank you.

Re: n!s

[silvereriena]

"IT'S JUST A KID'S MOVIE STOP CRITICIZING IT" is still a thing, eh? :/ And yes, kids are smarter than we give them credit for. I'm pretty sure a lot of people questioned stuff they saw on TV when they were young. Obviously not to the degree that adults can, but it's not like kids take EVERY SINGLE THING at face value.

As for the whole cultural misrepresentation debacle in this movie, it's kind of a mess. One character wears clothes that were apparently Sami-inspired though it's never explicitly stated that he is Sami. And then there was this giant argument about whether Sami are white or POC and it was just not pretty. Guess it didn't help that most of the people arguing knew zilch about Sami culture in general.

Re: n!s

[(Anonymous)]

Well, it's more like...since when has Disney ever cared about misrepresentation? Just look at Pocahontas. Or Mulan, or Aladdin. It's hardly worth it to even bother bringing it up at this point; we know they're going to do it wrong but make a reasonably entertaining movie out of it anyway.

[(Anonymous)]

You know you don't have to give strangers online advice for dealing with their depression. Chances are they already know but the depression itself makes it a struggle to take the steps to get that help, and even if they do it's not an instant fix, it's a long process that can keep rearing it's ugly head. Probably talking about it where they feel comfortable helps them. It's not your responsibility to try to fix anyone though.

But I wouldn't be so quick to shake them off as lying. Depression is really really common.

[elaminator]

all of this

[(Anonymous)]

Yeah I agree with this. And if I'm honest sometimes it's annoying to get unasked for advice, especially since it's usually all the same.

Writing out your feelings is a coping mechanism, if I want advice I will ask for it. But all the obvious ways to deal with depression? Yeah I know about all that. I've had this for my entire life, if you think I haven't been to therapy and been on medication and researched tons of coping mechanisms, you'd be wrong.

T!B

[(Anonymous)]

Honestly, unless someone is constantly shoving something like that in other people's faces I tend to just give them the benefit of the doubt. It's just easier, and in some cases it's better safe than sorry.

TB

[silvereriena]

I'm legitimately curious about something. Is it possible to become desensitized about people with problems? Sort of like how if you watch a lot of violent, gory TV you will become desensitized to the violence eventually. If you are surrounded by people with depression for example, do you slowly cease to have an emotional reaction to it? Is that what you think has happened to you, OP?

[(Anonymous)]

Not OP, but I would submit that this is indeed the case.

People have finite emotional resources (some are blessed with a more generous supply than others, of course.) Paying attention and extending sympathy requires an expenditure of personal energy, and if folks are under a constant barrage of pings for it--which, on the Internet and particularly on sites like Tumblr, they most definitely are--eventually their capacity to sympathize and empathize will be exhausted.

Choosing to prioritize and withhold sympathy from all but the most extreme cases may be the only way some people can avoid shutting down entirely and refusing to care about anyone at all (which we also do see happen unfortunately often on the internet.)

Re: TB

[(Anonymous)]

Not OP but this is exactly what has happened to me. There are so many people with depression in my fandoms that I just don't even care about it anymore. Another part of it for me is that I'm in fandom to talk about the characters and stories and to read and write fic, but a lot of people in my fandoms who are depressed mostly just talk about that.

Re: TB

[(Anonymous)]

We all have our limits, so I believe what you're saying is definitely true.

But I don't think the proper reaction to that is to take it out on the people suffering (which is what I'm seeing happening a lot) but in fact to set boundaries both for yourself and other people. Scroll past depression posts of people you don't know, and if it's someone you do know then make sure you're clear about not being their therapist. Don't ever let yourself get to that point where you just don't care.

Since I've had a lot of issues since a young age I never wanted people to feel as badly as I have, but as I grew older I really started to understand that boundaries are important because you have to take care of yourself before you can really help other people. It's made it a lot easier to be sympathetic to people's problems.

[(Anonymous)]

People that complain about it not representing Sami culture right need to realize that Kristoff is the only Sami in the movie and he's expressing his culture through what he remembered as a child. He's racially Sami but he's actually culturally ...Troll?