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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2014-05-12 06:54 pm

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(Anonymous) 2014-05-13 12:08 am (UTC)(link)
So you come from a region that has a distinctive accent, and people periodically attempt to emulate that accent on movies and tv: do you find that they usually succeed, or fail miserably?

I'm from the American South, and people are eternally failing at our accent. There's plenty of examples but right now I'm thinking of numerous examples on The Walking Dead, and the fact that I can't watch Boondock Saints II because the female detective's 'southern accent' is so ear-gratingly horrid.
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[personal profile] writerserenyty 2014-05-13 12:11 am (UTC)(link)
I live in Minnesota. I don't know many people who have the stereotypical Minnesotan accent; really, unless you live in rural areas, most people have a pretty plain accent.

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(Anonymous) 2014-05-13 01:16 am (UTC)(link)
I work in Faribault right now and I will say that pretty much everybody who grew up in this town has the MN accent to some extent. Don't know if that counts as rural since it's only an hour south of the Cities, but it certainly has enough cows to be the middle of nowhere.

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(Anonymous) 2014-05-13 03:23 am (UTC)(link)
I'm rural Minnesota and we say "uff-da" and everything lol

To be honest I've hardly seen anything that takes place in Minnesota where actual accents were used. iirc even something like Mighty Ducks they all spoke without distinguishable accents. Drop Dead Gorgeous did awesome (and hilarious) Minnesota accents, though. Exaggerated a bit but not as exaggerated as we like to claim.

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(Anonymous) 2014-05-13 12:11 am (UTC)(link)
I'm from Boston, and maybe I've nevah been to the right paht ah town, but I've nevah met anyone who tawks like this.

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(Anonymous) 2014-05-13 12:13 am (UTC)(link)
Still nowhere near as bad as Scottish accents (there is more than one, film-makers and English people please note) get mangled. I can count on the fingers of a blind butcher's hand the number of convincing Scottish accents I have heard. Heck, I haven't heard a Weegie do a decent Doric, or a Embra man do even a close approximation of an Ayrshire accent. Directors, if you cast someone in a Scottish role, either cast a native speaker or just don't bother with the accent. Lets not get started on the phonetic versions that turn up in comics and fanfic either. Every single one has been a true horror.

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[personal profile] kaijinscendre 2014-05-13 12:16 am (UTC)(link)
I am also from the South (Carolina). Worst Southern accent is everyone from True Blood. What. The. Fuck. I love hearing Rick when he drops his accent. >.

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(Anonymous) 2014-05-13 12:18 am (UTC)(link)
I've never heard a convincing British accent from an American.

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(Anonymous) 2014-05-13 12:19 am (UTC)(link)
It's rare that the Australian accent is done properly. I think it's one of the hardest to imitate.

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(Anonymous) 2014-05-13 12:19 am (UTC)(link)
South West UK. Yep, the accent that gets used for pirates. ARRR!

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[personal profile] rubbertea 2014-05-13 12:25 am (UTC)(link)
oh boy. there have been very few attempts at emulating a french accent that i thought were decent.

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[personal profile] ariakas 2014-05-13 12:30 am (UTC)(link)
Pretty much everyone who every tries to affect a "Canadian" accent ends up trying to sound like a Newfie.

Sorry, guys. We're pretty much just stealth!Americans, accent-wise. This is why we've invaded your Hollywood and your Comedy and stole all your signs.

(There are a few differences. We say the "o" in sorry, as opposed to sahrry, and "leftentant" instead of "lootenant", but there are plenty of Canadians who've seen too much American television that don't even do those. There's also Canadian raising, but no one attempting to do a Canadian accent actually does that, they just go 'OW ABOOT THAT HOCKEY EH?? and leave it at that.)

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(Anonymous) 2014-05-13 12:32 am (UTC)(link)
Well, I have an example that's worse still. I'm Brazilian. The Hulk movie with Edward Norton was set partly in Brazil and it had both Norton saying gibberish with horrible pronunciation and a bunch of Canadian actors playing Brazilians. They talked gibberish AND murdered the pronunciation.

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[identity profile] mimi-sardinia.livejournal.com 2014-05-13 12:34 am (UTC)(link)
Almost no one ever gets Australian accents right. The only country I would trust to do one right is New Zealand, since they have the same accent, barring some vowels, and it usually shows in the NW actors who have built their careers over this side of the Tasman.
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[personal profile] riddian 2014-05-13 12:42 am (UTC)(link)
Bwahah, I am curious to know what you think of country music. It seems like most country stars sing with an affected Southern accent of some kind regardless of where they come from.

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(Anonymous) 2014-05-13 12:46 am (UTC)(link)
1. Yes.

2. Sometimes.

3. They fail. To the point where they sound as though they are between 600 to 6000km "off" geographically. With 99% of that space being open ocean....
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[personal profile] shortysc22 2014-05-13 01:07 am (UTC)(link)
I'm from New Jersey and it irks me when people can't tell the difference between a New Jersey/Brooklyn/Staten Island/Bronx accent. No one says Joisey in New Jersey, that's all Brooklyn/Bronx and even then, it's less subtle now.

But I can definitely see you getting upset over the Southern accents because people are terrible at it unless they've actually grown up with it. Apparently Jim Parsons (Sheldon from Big Bang Theory) does an impeccable Texas one because he's from there originally.

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[personal profile] making_excuses 2014-05-13 01:28 am (UTC)(link)
Norwegian accents never sound right when they are done by a non-Norwegian (speaking English)

My dialect is one of the ones that the entire country loves to make fun off or try to speak with, and 99% of the time they aren't even close...

Well not my, my dialect that is a mix of about 5 different major dialects and some others thrown in for good measure, my speech pattern is actually from my mothers dialect, so I can actually do a pretty convincing northerner if I can slip naturally into it, my aunt and I tend to do so. I also speak standard Norwegian with my youngest sister (not on purpose) and I do that quite perfectly. Oh where was I? Right the dialect I should be speaking if I spoke the one I grew up listening to (or one of 3 variations of it), but I don't so no one can fake my dialect, but the Trøndersk that I should be speaking, people suck at, especially as they don't realize that there is like a 100* variations of it, and you have to be familiar with it to know the difference.

Wow that got long, sorry: Short answer: No, it does not happen, it barely happens in Norwegian media.

*Not an exaggeration, there isn't just the generation gaps (grandparents, parents and children use slightly different words for stuff), but also regional differences, from inner city to the outskirts, then to the small settlements around it and so on... Norwegian is a funny language.

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(Anonymous) 2014-05-13 01:28 am (UTC)(link)
The US midwest doesn't have accent an accent beyond Chicago, so no one tries imitating it.

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(Anonymous) 2014-05-13 02:03 am (UTC)(link)
I hear ya, fellow Southerner.

I remember when I was playing Xenosaga Episode I... supposedly the character Mary Godwin had some random accent she picked up from somewhere. I'm not sure what it was supposed to be emulating, but if Wendee Lee was going for Southern belle, she failed some serious sweaty monkey balls with all of her shaky LIL MASTUHs. Ugh. Just terrible.

The actress who replaced the character in the other two episodes was a HUGE improvement.

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[personal profile] lunabee34 2014-05-13 02:39 am (UTC)(link)
Me too, OP. I have come to believe that only the British or Australian can convincingly mimic an American Southern accent. Americans from other regions not so much.

The problem is that most people who want to do a Southern accent do that upper-crust, Virginia patrician accent that a small percentage of Southerners do have but is by no means representative.
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[personal profile] nyxelestia 2014-05-13 03:02 am (UTC)(link)
I live in Los Angeles. >.<

Everyone thinks there is a "Californian accent", and every time I hear it, it's really "80's rich white beach people" accent. I go to school in Santa Monica and my high school had a surf team and I can count the number of people with a "surfer accent" I've met on one hand, and same goes for the "Valley-girl accent".

The "California accent" is basically the General American/Broadcast accent - California has been such a huge influence on American media for the last several decades (and media has been so influential on California) that the overlap between General and Californian accents are massive enough to make them virtually indistinguishable to the average ear.

/rant

But hey, I found The Californians to be as funny as the next Angeleno. (Those driving route monologues really are only minor exaggerations). :P

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(Anonymous) 2014-05-13 06:05 am (UTC)(link)
Even though I live in Minnesota and have been told by a few people outstate that I've picked up the accent (which is strange since I live in the city which is not at all a harbor for the typical Minnesota accent), I find that South Floridians have a very strange amalgam of an accent that's not even attempted. I lived in Miami for a couple years, and having to learn Spanish to have any sort of job will have some impact on your English as well. From my experience, consonants tend to change more than vowels when you're switching between the two, and anything set in Miami completely overlooks this fact. On top of that, when you get about 10 miles or so away from the developments, a rural accent comes into play, causing even some city dwellers to say "y'all". Hell, I still say it. It's the one Floridian aspect of speech I have yet to kick.
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[personal profile] otakugal15 2014-05-13 09:48 pm (UTC)(link)
THE SOUTH DEAR GOD STOP TRYING TO USE OUR ACCENT IF YOU AREN'T FROM HERE. IT'S TERRIBLE. UGH.

However, oddly enough, and since I heard this really awesome soundbite a while back on tumblr about it, British and Australians are very welcome to emulate the Southern Accent since they share a lot of basics and such. Everyone else? Go home, now, you're drunk.