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I need to gain 30 pounds, and am tired of sweets and baked goods and really really wish I could eat broccoli, or fresh pears, or whole grain bread, or vegetable soup, or anything that wasn't carefully chosen because of its high calorie count.

Of course every time I mention this to people they're like "Boy, I wish I had your problem! Hahah, you want 30 of my pounds? Can I be introduced to this doctor who told you to eat as much chocolate as you can?"

That sounds really frustrating. You can't eat lower calorie stuff you like in addition to the high calorie stuff? Or is it a problem of filling up on the wrong things and not having room for the stuff that will help you gain weight?

Yeah, I can't eat more than a couple bites of anything before I start feeling nauseated. Or drink basically anything at all. So every freaking thing I swallow has to be high-calorie. :P

Hrmmmm. Juice has a lot of calories. And nuts. And peanut butter, and things cooked in like - bacon fat (i know, not fresh, but - bacon-wrapped Brussels sprouts, maybe?).... Can't you eat the high-calorie stuff *and* the low calorie stuff together? Surely you still need the vitamins and fiber.

Good luck! It sucks to have to eat foods you don't really want/enjoy.

Yeah, peanut butter is about the only thing I eat every day that isn't entirely sweet. And I try to eat more Nutella and such because those have higher calories, and like I said in the comment above, eating more than a couple bites of anything - or taking even a sip of fluids - makes me nauseous.

So basically my doctor said to eat as much high-calorie stuff as I can, don't worry about the nutritional balance for the time being - just get calories down so I don't lose more weight. Which means that every time I don't actively feel nauseated I'm trying to choke down something that's probably heavily processed and sweet while I have the chance. :P (And as for fiber, some of my digestive problems went away when I basically cut all significant sources of dietary fiber... so yeah. I miss vegetables and whole grains. ;_;)

I mean I'm getting so desperate for high-calorie stuff that is not sweet that I've started eating spoonfuls of spicy mayo. Which for some reason actually keeps the nausea at bay for a little while, so I can eat a little more. Bizarre.

WOW that sucks. I understand being sick of sweet - I love a good piece of cake or a candy bar, but *only* that kind of stuff? Yucko. I know you've probably thought of all this but - how about weight training powders, that you mix into smoothies? They have some of those in super-high calorie concentrations and you mix it with juice and yogurt (or ice cream or whatever) in your blender....?

Now i feel like i need to go research high-calorie foods that aren't candy.

Hope you can find something to ease the nausea. Is pot not an option?

Pot is legal only with a prescription in my state, and since at least one of the doctors I was seeing before I lost my insurance already thought I was making it up, I'd be reluctant to ask even if I could.

And yeah, I know about weight training powders, and Ensure/Boost/etc.. They fill me up too easily, and then I can't eat ANYTHING for the rest of the day and I feel bloated. :/

I despise doctors like that. Bah. No chance of just getting a joint or two, eh?

I wish I could be clever and think of something really spiffy to help but...i can't. I hope you find something that *does* work and makes you feel better!

Re: Problems that don't sound like problems

pantswarrior - 2014-06-05 01:39 (UTC) - Expand

Re: Problems that don't sound like problems

tabaqui - 2014-06-05 01:43 (UTC) - Expand

Re: Problems that don't sound like problems

pantswarrior - 2014-06-05 12:19 (UTC) - Expand

Re: Problems that don't sound like problems

tabaqui - 2014-06-05 15:02 (UTC) - Expand

Try buying some whipping cream and whip it yourself. Then you can have high calorie whipped cream (maybe with your favorite fruit), with no sugar added.

If you've never made whipped cream, be careful on your first try. Whip it just a little too much and you end up with butter.

How about broccoli with cheese melted on it? Or anything with cheese melted on it, actually.

I don't like cooked broccoli though. Just raw. What I'm craving when I say I rave broccoli is raw broccoli, maybe dipped in some italian dressing... maybe a whole salad of nothing but broccoli and carrots, with some vinegary dressing over it.

But due to the problem I seem to have with fiber, the dressing is the only thing there I can actually tolerate. :/

And the same means I can't have fruit, and I'm lactose intolerant so cream/whipping cream and cheese is something I can only have in very very small amounts. (I do sometimes eat a single spoonful of cheese dip. And suffer the consequences, but cheese is so good and I get so tired of sweets. ;_;)

So yeah. Like I said before, not looking for advice here - this has been going on in my life for almost 30 years, and it's very unlikely anyone here can provide a solution that I haven't already tried/thought about. I appreciate that people try, though. I was just answering the OP's question about problems that most people think are not problems, with "I need to GAIN weight, and I wish I could just eat a salad instead of candy."

Re: Problems that don't sound like problems

(Anonymous) - 2014-06-06 17:06 (UTC) - Expand

I mean I'm getting so desperate for high-calorie stuff that is not sweet that I've started eating spoonfuls of spicy mayo. Which for some reason actually keeps the nausea at bay for a little while, so I can eat a little more.

That actually makes perfect sense to me but I don't know how to go about explaining why. It almost sounds like your stomach is producing too much acid, and spicy/acidic things neutralize it for a bit.

Have you ever tried taking a shot of apple cider vinegar before eating?

SA

Aw crap, I just saw how you're not looking for advice. Sorry; I hope this doesn't come across as presumptuous. :-/

Yeah, actually I could go into a lot of detail about what things help my stomach and research I've done on the internet in the absence of having access to actual medical care, which basically led me to believe that I have one underlying problem which has been known to cause another problem when triggered by another problem (which I definitely experienced shortly before this flare started three years ago, and before the first flare almost thirty years ago). And the underlying problem is actually not producing ENOUGH stomach acid. The only way I can eat at all is to first have a small amount of highly acidic/spicy food, which seems to stimulate or supplement my stomach to actually try to do what it's supposed to do.

Apple cider vinegar was one of the top suggestions, but I can't stand the taste of it - it tastes too much like beer for my liking. So I use straight lemon juice or grapefruit juice instead most of the time, or a spoonful of mustard or pickle juice, since those are mostly vinegar. And it's really only the apple cider variety I can't stand, due to the beery taste. Sometimes I'll wake up feeling like complete crap, make myself down a shot of 100% white grapefruit juice (no cocktail!), and after about 10-15 minutes I can actually eat a few bites of something that ISN'T highly acidic.

(As I noted, I've been at this for awhile, done tons of research, tried many many things... which is the only reason I'm shooting people's suggestions down. I really do appreciate that people are trying to help. I just honestly don't think there's a whole lot of advice/theories left by this time that I haven't already heard and/or tried. =))

Re: Problems that don't sound like problems

(Anonymous) - 2014-06-14 23:56 (UTC) - Expand

While I don't need to gain that much weight, I've been struggling for the last 10 months or so to be back at 120 pounds after a stomach infection and stress shed some weight I didn't need to lose. That said, I completely understand being sick of sweets and baked goods. It's super cloying after a while. Are you able to eat avocados? The scientific serving size is 1/5 of the fruit and has 50 Calories, while a half of one runs closer to 125 Calories. It could at least break up the monotony a little.

I'm unable to eat pretty much ANYTHING without nausea, and avocados smelled nauseating to me even before this flare-up started. :P There's no way I could eat half of one, and a spoonful of Nutella has like twice the calories as half an avocado... so even if I liked avocado, Nutella wins.

Plus I imagine they have a significant amount of natural fiber, and fiber appears to be a trigger for some of my GI problems... that's the main reason I can't eat fruit. And I miss fruit so much. ;_; I can occasionally tolerate juice, but even when I can, it's just not the same. Been drinking pineapple juice today and it just makes me want fresh pineapple, maybe with some strawberries...

But yeah... I used to love any sort of sweet goods, and I've taken to seeking out new and interesting kinds of chocolate, mostly of the dark variety, to get some variety, but most of the time? I have to walk through the produce section to get to the high-calorie stuff in the bakery/snack cake area and am just like ;________;

Maybe try savoury dishes with sauces or soups with a creamy base? Use double cream instead of regular cream if you can? Maybe egg salad with lots of mayo (egg yolks are high on calories too, aren't they?). Some smoked fish dishes are pretty fatty but still healthy as well. You could also fry stuff.

Yeah, I have thought of those things... problem is, with being lactose intolerant (my whole life even before this), and not being able to eat more than a few bites of anything, it's a waste of money buying anything with a shelf life less than a month. I buy eggs occasionally and manage to eat like two before they expire. I buy a "single-serve" pint bottle of milk and can't even get through that before it starts tasting off. And my finances are not such that I can afford to buy food that's going to be thrown away. :/

Same kind of thing makes me not want to cook. I smell food for long enough and it's the same as having eaten it - by the time it's done, the idea of actually eating it makes me gag. So "cooking" for me is pretty much "can it be done in less than five minutes before my stomach turns on me again?" Otherwise I would be frying up potatoes all the time...

*reading more of your thread*
You sound like me before i had my surgery. Cooking dinner for my family, by the time i was done, I just wanted to curl up on the couch and sleep. The thought of eating anything i'd just cooked made me want to heave.

Which sometimes i would do, whoo hoo! Made me hate cooking even more.

You can pretty much ignore the expiration date on eggs. They keep much longer than that date says. We've had both farm fresh and grocery store eggs that we've keep for (embarrassingly) long times without them going bad.

Is just upping your portions slowly an option?

I'm overweight and I don't really like baked goods, either...I got there somehow.

If gaining weight, favor things like pasta or fries over rice or veggies. With the broccoli you could try eating it with a high-calorie cheese sauces (sauces in general are a way to sneak in more calories). I'm trying to think in reverse here, the things I'm NOT doing to lose weight.

Another thing is to have a heavy dinner late in the day and no longer exercise after it. Cream dds calories to soup. Eating bread with it also does. Use lots of butter on fish or meat. Things like that. If not lactose intolerant, add one or two glasses of full fat milk to you day.

Hope that helps and if not, good luck. I have a friend like you and I know being underweight is also no good.

Lactose intolerant, don't exercise at all already (and that's killing me too, I hate being so weak), can't eat more than a few bites of anything without nausea. So every bite has to count for as many calories as possible just to keep me functioning. :/

You're dead on about the sauces though. I already put condiments on everything, mostly nut butters, canned frosting, or syrups. Like I literally dip candy bars into a can of frosting just to get as many calories as possible, and I don't eat bread unless there's a ton of mayo on it. I'm so tired of sweet things. :P

That really sucks, I can understand your frustration.

How about biscuits with bacon or sausage gravy? Or cheesy garlic bread? Also, butter has a pretty high calorie count and it's pretty easy to make a savory compound butter (like lemon butter or chive butter).

Maybe protein drinks? I mean you can get them in various flavors. When I was working I used Slim Fast to cover for meals I didn't have the time for. I actually gained pounds.

Just add olive oil to lower calorie stuff. Bread with butter or something should be reasonably high-calorie. Bread has a lot of carbs, after all. Something like a baked potato with cheese and broccoli (or just try the broccoli with cheese) should do a decent job, calorie-wise... basically, adding cheese, olive oil, or butter to anything is a good way of upping your calorie count for the day.

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