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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2015-05-13 06:40 pm

[ SECRET POST #3052 ]


⌈ Secret Post #3050 ⌋

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[Falcon Densetsu/F-Zero GP Legends]


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(Stephen Paul Manderson aka Professor Green, Never Mind the Buzzcocks)


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[personal profile] fscom 2015-05-13 10:50 pm (UTC)(link)
I'm tired of hearing his stans go on about how we should forgive him because "it was just a joke" or "blah blah fictional character so nobody should be offended". I always thought he was a douchebag and every word he's said on this subject confirms my theory. (Those are actual quotes, by the way...)

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"I am sorry that this tasteless joke about a fictional character offended anyone."
"It was not meant to be serious in any way. Just poking fun during an exhausting and tedious press tour."
"[But] if you slept with four of the six Avengers, no matter how much fun you had, you'd be a slut. Just saying."

(Anonymous) 2015-05-13 10:55 pm (UTC)(link)
I think there is no reason to forgive him because he didn't do anything worth forgiving. He made a stupid joke. So what? I've made tasteless jokes. OP is gonna deny it, but I can guarantee you've made some tasteless jokes in your life. EVERYONE has.

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(Anonymous) 2015-05-13 10:56 pm (UTC)(link)
I think, as a general rule, one tasteless joke doesn't mean everyone has to tell the guy to go to hell. Even if it's a joke that he really likes and repeats, for whatever reason God only knows.

I also think that I'm thoroughly sick of talking about this.

I don't give a shit about Jeremy Renner either.

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(Anonymous) 2015-05-13 10:56 pm (UTC)(link)
It's almost as if sometimes people make tasteless jokes and don't feel the need to apologize for them. Crazy.

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(Anonymous) 2015-05-13 10:59 pm (UTC)(link)
Ahh, don't you just love confirmation bias?

(Anonymous) 2015-05-13 11:02 pm (UTC)(link)
Crowd overreaction. The original interview was, I thought, meant to be them parodying jealous and jilted frat boy type boyfriends, not speaking with their own words, so meh?

I do think though that though his first quotes were fine, though the last one where he insisted that sleeping with four members of the Avengers makes a woman a slut, that was crossing the line. And coupled with the fact that Black Widow gets so underrepresented, and is so often forgotten or simply defined by her sexiness and nothing else, I can see how his callous joke does signify a bigger problem with Black Widow that as far as I know he's never addressed.

(Anonymous) 2015-05-13 11:03 pm (UTC)(link)
Well...you ARE a slut if you sleep with four of the six Avengers. But being a slut isn't a bad thing.

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[personal profile] sarillia 2015-05-13 11:04 pm (UTC)(link)
I don't think this particular example is a big deal but I have to say I'm not fond of the "it's a fictional character" argument. When a person would say the exact same thing about a real woman (or whatever group is relevant) as they do about a female character because it's based on their opinion of women in general, how is it ridiculous for some people to consider it offensive? Saying it about a real particular woman is worse because there's an individual who has been hurt by it in addition to the other reasons people get offended by comments, but in terms of their views on the group as a whole, I don't get why a person's thoughts on fictional versions of a group are supposed to be completely separate from their thoughts on the real group.

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(Anonymous) 2015-05-13 11:06 pm (UTC)(link)
Renner's shit and he hates women, it's deplorable he has fans.

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[personal profile] darnaguen 2015-05-13 11:07 pm (UTC)(link)
I was ready to forgive the initial comment because I can understand blurting out stupid shit while exhausted every now and then, but then he had to dig himself deeper by getting defensive and slut-shaming Natasha even more - for pretty much imaginary reasons. I mean, since when has she slept with all of them? I thought she's had only one actual canonical love interest in MCU so far. So, is she a slut for smooching Steve and... hanging out with Clint a lot?

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What is that last quote?

(Anonymous) 2015-05-13 11:30 pm (UTC)(link)
Since when has she slept with four of the Avengers in the MCU? And even if she had, how does sleeping with four people make you promiscuous?

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Here's why it bothers people

(Anonymous) 2015-05-13 11:31 pm (UTC)(link)
Because saying Natasha is slut for flirting with her coworkers is calling any woman who exhibits that behavior a slut.

If you have a closer friendship with a dude (Clint), kiss another coworker to distract someone (Steve), get hit on by another coworker (Tony), and date another one (Bruce), you are, by Renner's definition, a slut.

And it's unfair. Because no, there's nothing wrong with having lots of sex. It doesn't hurt anyone. But being called a slut is demeaning and is used to put people down. It's also used as a way to hurt people -- if you have a reputation as a slut, it can really hurt you if you're raped and want to press charges against your attacker. It can also make guys trying to pick you up really hostile.

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TOTALLY AGREE

(Anonymous) 2015-05-13 11:44 pm (UTC)(link)
I couldn't agree more. Even before this whole fiasco I always got the impression that he was a total douchebag.

Also, he's ridiculously ugly. I don't understand why he is marketed as "hot". He's about the least attractive Hollywood actor ever, right after Zachary Quinto.

Re: TOTALLY AGREE

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(Anonymous) 2015-05-13 11:47 pm (UTC)(link)
I'm glad he offended the feminists and SJWs and he's unapologetic about it.

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(Anonymous) 2015-05-13 11:58 pm (UTC)(link)
He doesn't say if you slept with four people you'd be a slut. He's saying that if you slept with four Avengers you'd be a slut.

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(Anonymous) 2015-05-14 12:09 am (UTC)(link)
Well his career is coming to a grinding halt, so somthing positive is coming out of this.

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(Anonymous) 2015-05-14 12:24 am (UTC)(link)
For all the people defending Renner and going, "ohmygod it's just a joke!!!!' Stop overeacting you stupid sjws!!! you're ruining everything god!!!!" Im gonna have to ask you to stop.

-His "joke" doesn't even make any sense. Natasha has literally slept with none of the Avengers.
Bruce is the only person shes canonly had any romantic feelings towards.
Lol sorry but you think a women having any kind of a romantic/platonic relationship with a man automatically equals to "having constant sex with" then you're a gross idiot.

-When you single out one female character in a group of all male characters and then accuse her of being a slut because she interacts with the male characters...that's kinda messed up. And yes everyone has the right to say anything they please, but freedom of speech does not come with freedom from consequences. Jeremy deserved the backlash he received because the comments they made offended a lot of people. Even if they didn't offend you, they offended others.

-even if he was "joking" with calling BW a slut, that's still not a funny joke and it's pretty mean. Especially since Scarlet has expressed multiple times in interviews that she's not just there for sexual appeal and hates it when interviewers ask her stupid sexist questions. I mean yeah I doubt they meant it, but it's still a pretty rude thing to say about a coworker and the character they play.

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(Anonymous) 2015-05-14 12:44 am (UTC)(link)
If I slept with four Avengers, I don't care of anyone calls me a slut. I call me a winner.

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(Anonymous) 2015-05-14 02:33 am (UTC)(link)
Aaaah, mindless celebrity worship. I guarantee people wouldn't be anywhere as forgiving if he was an average joe.

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(Anonymous) 2015-05-14 02:54 am (UTC)(link)
Jeremy Renner is not only physically pig disgusting but he's also an edgelord. MCU Hawkeye is also easily worst boy in Avengers. How he has Stans is beyond me.

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(Anonymous) 2015-05-14 03:26 am (UTC)(link)
noodly, did you bring your 4chan friends here again

(Anonymous) 2015-05-14 04:40 am (UTC)(link)
Now, if the Avengers were women, he would be calling it differently.

He scored! What a pimp! 4 in a row! High Five! Jealous of the lucky bastard!



But the woman is a whore

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it's like he set out to make himself as unappealing as possible, when really he should be grateful to be working in Hollywood at all with a face that looks like a bulldog's wrinkled ass

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Ha! This actually make me like him.

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