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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2015-12-04 06:38 pm

[ SECRET POST #3257 ]


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What socially progressive ideas of today do you think will become abhorrent to future generations?

(Anonymous) 2015-12-05 12:19 am (UTC)(link)

Re: What socially progressive ideas of today do you think will become abhorrent to future generation

(Anonymous) 2015-12-05 12:23 am (UTC)(link)
Ooooh, love it! I have one of these: The idea of gender being a social construct.

It's popular now, but I genuinely believe that as we learn more and more about gender through trans people getting into STEM and choosing to look into trans issues, I genuinely believe that we will find the idea of "Gender is just something people made up" to be factually incorrect and also will be looked back on as a transphobic myth.

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(Anonymous) 2015-12-05 12:26 am (UTC)(link)
I don't understand. Are you saying that future generations, after looking into transgender issues, will find that gender doesn't exist? So they'd invalidate trans people, or?

Re: What socially progressive ideas of today do you think will become abhorrent to future generation

(Anonymous) 2015-12-05 12:29 am (UTC)(link)
I believe the opposite. In the future, gender will become less relevant as traditional gender roles blur, until nobody will be able to tell - and nobody will think or care about - who has a penis and who has a vagina.
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Re: What socially progressive ideas of today do you think will become abhorrent to future generation

[personal profile] feotakahari 2015-12-05 12:32 am (UTC)(link)
I think you're wrong on that one. Sex is definitely a thing on some level, but it's messier than pop science usually admits, and there's a lot more variation within "male brains" and "female brains" than the typical ranters claim.

Re: What socially progressive ideas of today do you think will become abhorrent to future generation

(Anonymous) 2015-12-05 12:35 am (UTC)(link)
What I don't like about the terms is that it basically defines gender as society defines gender. "Gender is a social construct" means that female gender likes pink, dresses, and dolls. Male gender likes blue, trucks and action figures. That's bullshit and all those are are stereotypes, they aren't "gender".

And I do not get the "biological sex is a social construct!" that's the current buzz phrase. I get that intersex people exist, but male and female sex are things. Evolution is just not that edgy.

However, if you're implying that you believe male and female brains are different, not sure about that.
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ITT: Nobody can remember the difference between gender and sex

[personal profile] feotakahari 2015-12-05 02:02 am (UTC)(link)
Seriously, I could respond to half these comments with this. "You're using the word 'gender' to refer to something that's typically defined as 'sex,' and you're acting like any argument about 'gender' is also an argument about 'sex.'"

Re: What socially progressive ideas of today do you think will become abhorrent to future generation

(Anonymous) 2015-12-05 12:27 am (UTC)(link)
All the gender nonsense that's been picking up steam and gaining g popularity. Eventually it'll go back to cis, trans and snowflake idiots, and gender will be better for it.

Re: What socially progressive ideas of today do you think will become abhorrent to future generation

(Anonymous) 2015-12-05 12:31 am (UTC)(link)
That cultural appropriation is bad.

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(Anonymous) 2015-12-05 12:34 am (UTC)(link)
Yes!

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(Anonymous) 2015-12-05 12:34 am (UTC)(link)
This. I believe the lines in the sand will disappear and the concept of "stay in your lane" will be looked at as insane and racist.

Re: What socially progressive ideas of today do you think will become abhorrent to future generation

(Anonymous) 2015-12-05 12:35 am (UTC)(link)
This. Misrepresenting a culture can stay bad, though. By which I mean: Tomahawk chop at football games=bad but learning traditional dance is not, for a Native American example

Re: What socially progressive ideas of today do you think will become abhorrent to future generation

(Anonymous) 2015-12-05 12:38 am (UTC)(link)
I don't think so, I think people will become more respectful of important, sacred cultural traditions/materials.

But I do think cultures are going to continue to combine and become less distinct, and most people will be mixed race and probably have less ethnic/cultural division.

Re: What socially progressive ideas of today do you think will become abhorrent to future generation

(Anonymous) 2015-12-05 12:38 am (UTC)(link)
Thank you. THANK. YOU. Because what I've seen branded as "cultural appropriation" is usually THE CULTURE SHARING WITH OTHERS ANYWAY! Like Dia de los Muertos, Oktoberfest, etc.

Re: What socially progressive ideas of today do you think will become abhorrent to future generation

(Anonymous) 2015-12-05 12:43 am (UTC)(link)
Nah. Cultural appropriation is bad, but what gets screamed about on tumblr isn't actually cultural appropriation most of the time.

Taking things that are sacred to another culture and bastardizing them = cultural appropriation, wrong.

Someone learns to cook a food that didn't originate in their culture = not cultural appropriation, not wrong.

Re: What socially progressive ideas of today do you think will become abhorrent to future generation

(Anonymous) 2015-12-05 12:34 am (UTC)(link)
I think that the blanket hatred people have for conservatives will eventually be seen by society as groundless "Them and us" bullshit, just like every other time people have been encouraged to fight against a particular group for existing.
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Re: What socially progressive ideas of today do you think will become abhorrent to future generation

[personal profile] feotakahari 2015-12-05 12:34 am (UTC)(link)
I'm not sure if you'd call this progressive, but there are some people who are really insistent that people should only write about cultural backgrounds their ancestors came from. I don't think that idea will age well at all.

Re: What socially progressive ideas of today do you think will become abhorrent to future generation

(Anonymous) 2015-12-05 12:39 am (UTC)(link)
I think, tho it may take some time, that the MRM will travel the same path as feminism did. I mean, feminism took a long ass time to get to where it is today, and it started off with literally the same problems (Dickheads being too visible in the movement. Seriously early feminists were some awful people.) and the same arguments ("They don't care about Men / Women, they're just man-haters / woman-haters") that after about a century the MRM will be in the same place feminism is today.

Re: What socially progressive ideas of today do you think will become abhorrent to future generation

(Anonymous) 2015-12-05 12:44 am (UTC)(link)
It's cruel to let people with this disability be able to live because they can only live horrible painful lives and it's better for them not to exist at all to be spared the pain.

Especially when the disorder has a huge spectrum of severity.

Re: What socially progressive ideas of today do you think will become abhorrent to future generation

(Anonymous) 2015-12-05 12:46 am (UTC)(link)
Wouldn't it be funny if Vaccines are ever proved to cause autism? There is a possible future out there where Jenny McCarthy is lauded as a hero, a saviour of children and a genius. How horrible is that to contemplate?

Re: What socially progressive ideas of today do you think will become abhorrent to future generation

(Anonymous) 2015-12-05 12:46 am (UTC)(link)
That Jews have less of a right to Israel than Palestinians.

All of them

(Anonymous) 2015-12-05 01:02 am (UTC)(link)
Because progressives defend islamists until they're blue in the face. they'll get the world they're crying for and realize what that means.

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Re: What socially progressive ideas of today do you think will become abhorrent to future generation

[personal profile] cbrachyrhynchos 2015-12-05 01:55 am (UTC)(link)
About half of these are not really "progressive" ideas.

Re: What socially progressive ideas of today do you think will become abhorrent to future generation

[personal profile] cbrachyrhynchos 2015-12-05 02:36 am (UTC)(link)
I'm hoping the pendulum will swing back away from the current trend for arbitrary pigeonholing of sexuality in favor of something a bit more fluid.

And I hope the "Urban Archipelago" model of progressive electoral politics dies in the United States, along with "fuck the South."

Also I hope the last 20 years of letting antitheism drive the discourse regarding atheists and religion burns out.

Lol

(Anonymous) 2015-12-05 02:59 am (UTC)(link)
Lol @ this thread. Might has well have just said 'what unpopular opinions do you have?' or 'what sjw ~trends do you hate?'

Not that I disagree with a handful of these comments, it's just that all of them are very reactionary and unimaginative.

(inb4 'give us a better example, then!')