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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2016-01-13 06:37 pm

[ SECRET POST #3297 ]


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(Anonymous) 2016-01-13 11:53 pm (UTC)(link)
Well, you know, you could just only be into women? Sexuality and gender identity aren't connected and all that jazz.
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[personal profile] kallanda_lee 2016-01-14 12:03 am (UTC)(link)
This is true.

(Anonymous) 2016-01-14 12:18 am (UTC)(link)
Yeah, I'm kinda like... 'er. maybe you're just a lesbian?'

(Anonymous) 2016-01-14 01:34 am (UTC)(link)
NAYRT

I'm not OP, but I am a trans guy and I think what she's trying to say is that she's into both (I.e. bi/pansexual), but she's not comfortable with cis men oversexualizing her body because of her genitals. Without getting into too much oversharing, I have a trans feminine FWB that is exactly like this. She's cool with other trans people, which is why I've got the greenlight to touch her however I like, and she's cool with ladies in general (cis and trans), but she's pretty sketch on cis men who go after her because she's trans.

I think OP is saying she feels like a hypocrite because it would be something like this:

Cis guy: I find trans women who are non-op sexy.

Her reaction would probably be something like "ew, go away".

But if you switched that to a cis woman saying it? She'd be cool with it.

For the record, OP, I don't think you're being hypocritical at all. Trans women do have a history of being commodified and traded like sex toy chattel by cis men, and I'd side-eye any person who blamed you or tried to shame you for being alright with doing something with your body with one person and not another. That's rapey as fuck if people are expecting you to do that.

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(Anonymous) 2016-01-13 11:55 pm (UTC)(link)
Futa isn't about you, darling. In fact I doubt most futa fans would touch you with a ten foot pole.

(Anonymous) 2016-01-13 11:58 pm (UTC)(link)
I agree and also disagree. I've seen kind of a split, some thinking transwomen are gross and not futa material at all, and the other who loves 'traps' and find them really hot. Of course, by calling transwomen traps, ,they aren't exactly the most likable type of people.

(Anonymous) 2016-01-14 12:02 am (UTC)(link)
fuck is this comment?

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A side note

[personal profile] feotakahari 2016-01-14 12:04 am (UTC)(link)
Why is it that every time I see an anon on FS use the word "darling," they're being an asshole?

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(Anonymous) 2016-01-14 12:02 am (UTC)(link)
It's fine to have a double standard in regards to who you want to date/have sex with. People don't have to be "fair" in that area, since that would pretty much require people to have sex with people they aren't into or do things they don't want to do just because someone else wants them to.

There are things I'd be okay doing with a woman and not with a man, too, and I shouldn't have to justify it or cater to some dude who's mad about it.
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[personal profile] kallanda_lee 2016-01-14 12:10 am (UTC)(link)
this! I mean, if there is one field where ou can be discriminatory, it's you choice of sexual partners.

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(Anonymous) 2016-01-14 12:04 am (UTC)(link)
i think your instincts are sensible and valid fwiw

(Anonymous) 2016-01-14 12:07 am (UTC)(link)
Stuff like this is why I wish we had better social tools for distinguishing between actual trans people and issues on the one hand, and porn fantasies on the other. Because I'm a big supporter of weird porn fantasies! I think they're great, no matter how weird they are! But it's not okay when the lines blur between fantasy and reality, and actual people end up getting hurt.

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(Anonymous) 2016-01-14 12:08 am (UTC)(link)
Guys sexuality has always had a kind of gross fetishistic patina to it it doesn't matter if you're trans, a straight woman, a gay man, or a bi anything, male attention usually comes from the darkest most twisted places if human desire. Yes it is absolutely a double standard, but it is also more often than not a truth.

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(Anonymous) 2016-01-14 12:23 am (UTC)(link)
You're not a futa so don't joke about being a futa!anything. That's co-opting other people's gender identity.

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(Anonymous) 2016-01-14 12:34 am (UTC)(link)
Seems like a simple solution would be just to go for women then.

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(Anonymous) 2016-01-14 12:45 am (UTC)(link)
Are you sure you're not a man-hating lesbian?

I'm not saying there's anything wrong with that, mind you; I used to be a man-hating lesbian too.

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(Anonymous) 2016-01-14 12:51 am (UTC)(link)
Suggestion: have you considered the possibility that you're just a straight guy wearing a dress?

(Anonymous) 2016-01-14 12:55 am (UTC)(link)
I totally understand-- cismale 'chasers' ruin everything. The lack of respect and predictable requests for sexual acts that may not do a single thing for the woman they're propositioning... like, why sign up for that? You've got every right to be wary.

Side note, biggest relief of my life was when I thought a guy talking about loving 'trap' characters was a creep (when I'd always trusted them prior to that convo), only to later learn she just wasn't ready to be out to me, and it was a big deal for her to be able to find cute girly characters who just happened to have penises. So like, yeah. But when I was under the impression that it was a guy, I was uncomfortable and kind of torn up, because that history of cis men being awful about trans women and their bodies.

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if you're not a wymyn then you're not a wymyn

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Serious question: but how do you feel about pre op trans men?

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(Anonymous) 2016-01-14 02:08 am (UTC)(link)
Let me tell you a story, OP. Hope it helps.

Once when I was a kid, maybe like four or five, my grandmother started to date this guy. James Lee was his name.

James Lee was dead set on being husband number six. My grandmother's previous husbands committed suicide, died of a stroke at the age of 30, ran off and left her, passed out drunk in the middle of the road and got run over by a woman on her way to get her wedding dress and ran off and left her in that order. My grandmother has a terrible track record, but I digress. My point is that James Lee wanted wanted to marry my grandmother and live an easy life sponging off her, spending her social security checks for her and drinking beer. James Lee was an asshole. I didn't know how to read yet, but I knew he was an asshole.

I was a tyke with a lot of health problems and my overly anxious, somewhat stifling parents rarely let me out of their sight. They also weren't fans of leaving me alone with my grandmother because I nearly overdosed on her sleeping pills. (She kept them in a plastic ziplock bag and when I asked her what they were, she said they were tic tacs because she thought if she told me they were pills, I'd want to take them. So me, being three and dumb apparently shoveled half of them down my stupid throat.)

But for whatever reason, the stars aligned just right and my parents allowed me to escape their clutches for a few hours to spend the night at my grandmothers. The only problem was that James Lee was going to be there.

It started off normally enough. We had manwiches for dinner with cream of corn and canned beans. Then James Lee and I watched Wrasslin'. I was young and too stupid to question why I liked watching two men grapple so much. He took out his pocket knife and showed it to me. I remember the blade was really small and it had a shiny handle that must have been mother of pearl or something. He made like he was going stab me with it and was disappointed when I didn't flinch or act scared. He spent the rest of the night trying to make me flinch and drinking beer. He let me have some beer, though. So I guess it wasn't too bad.

Bright and early the next morning, James Lee took me for a walk. Which would have been nice, but the "path" we took was just that. There was no actual sidewalk. Just a strip of grass on the side of a busy road with a trail from people walking there. Towards the end, we passed a squirrel that had been struck by a car. I remember looking down at it, its stomach had split and its eyes were still open. I had never seen roadkill up close before, so I remember being kind of repulsed and fascinated.

For whatever reason, James Lee decided I had to prove my manhood by touching it. He tried all kinds of bribery to coerce me into doing it. Money, a toy, new sneakers, candy, everything. Nothing doing. I dug my heels in. So finally, he grabbed my little hand and shoved it right up in there. Right up in its stomach cavity. It could just be my mind playing tricks on me, but I swear it was still warm.

Naturally, I screamed and cried like a bitch. James Lee laughed his ass off, called me a pussy/pansy/whatever else and took me home.

A couple of months later, we discovered that he also really liked taking my grandmother's sleeping pills. They broke up and that's the last I ever saw of him.

I didn't catch any diseases from the squirrel, but visiting my grandmother's apartment has never really been quite the same after that.

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(Anonymous) 2016-01-14 02:23 am (UTC)(link)
This sounds like reverse-rape tbh. You need to think about what you're doing. It's not okay.
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[personal profile] aenrhien 2016-01-14 11:37 pm (UTC)(link)
A lot of cis guys are creepy anyways, if my experience as a transman trying to date is anything to go by.

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(Anonymous) 2016-01-15 06:37 am (UTC)(link)
I get what you mean. I'm a cis woman, but I have similar feelings when it comes to BDSM. I'll let a woman dominate me, and I enjoy lesbian porn with a woman being dominated, but I CANNOT enjoy being dominated by a man. So many guys get creepy about it, and even if they don't I can't separate the fantasy of the role-play from reality. I keep thinking "what if he actually thinks of me as a whore? What if he actually seriously disrespects me?" The few times I've done it, while it's hot in the moment, I feel like total shit afterwards. I think fundamentally I cannot trust men to dominate me and then respect me later.

You're allowed to feel what you want and decide not to fuck people for whatever reasons you want. It's your own private sex life.

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