[ SECRET POST #3355 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #3355 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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[The Lord of the Rings]



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02.
[Digimon Story: Cyber Sleuth]


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04.
[Partners in Crime]


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05.
[The 100]


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08. [SPOILERS for Undertale]




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09. [SPOILERS for The 100]













Notes:

Secrets Left to Post: 00 pages, 000 secrets from Secret Submission Post #479.
Secrets Not Posted: [ 0 - broken links ], [ 0 - not!secrets ], [ 0 - not!fandom ], [ 0 - too big ], [ 0 - repeat ].
Current Secret Submissions Post: here.
Suggestions, comments, and concerns should go here.

Comments

[fscom]

06. http://i.imgur.com/zKXq9Ya.png

[(Anonymous)]

I'm assuming you're the boyfriend of the OP of #9 yesterday?

Asking before people accuse you of being the same person.

OP

[(Anonymous)]

.....That is...really weird how you guessed that. And yes. I even sat with her and helped to make her secret for her (don't hate on me for the rainbow that was all her doing, I just listened) since she enjoys participating in fandom!secrets but isn't very tech/design savvy.

[herpymcderp]

I know this secret is meant to be topical and all, but ...come on. This is fandom. This is the land of knotting, sex pollen, self-lubricating anuses, and rape is love.

Think about it, OP.

[(Anonymous)]

Yeah, but generally those are accepted as unrealistic tropes that people know are unrealistic.

You get a different vibe when the author truly and honestly thinks something's realistic when it's not.

I once read fic by someone who was convinced, convinced, that guys had sex together by one fucking down the other's urethra. Not a sounding fetish, they thought that was how it worked.

[(Anonymous)]

Not to mention all gay anal sex involves three finger scissoring.

In other words, popular tropes are popular, and not always accurate or representative of real life.

[(Anonymous)]

I can understand it. If someone wants to see someone like them (in this case a trans man) in a sexual fic, and it's always written in a way that would work for him or anyone he's known like him, that's got to be annoying.

It can be frustrating when pretty much all porn aimed at you or people with your specific sexual interests, or involving people like you always has some trope you hate.

[(Anonymous)]

yeah that's majorly offputting to me, too, and a big reason for why i avoid that kind of fic. i don't want to acknowledge my chest as even existing, it's the ultimate boner kill

[(Anonymous)]

WHAT A FUCKING WALL OF TEXT

plz somebody break it down

ps - what an underwhelming load of Friday secrets :( ib "F!S is DYING"

[(Anonymous)]

yeah, I think it's because these fics are often written by cis-women and they like the idea. I kind of get the appeal, but it's not very empathetic.

[(Anonymous)]

Fandom is fetishizing trans people? This isn't news.

[(Anonymous)]

I feel similarly about fics set post-op with someone "tracing their fingers along his scars," or some such. Like, yeah, top surgery made me feel better, but I still wish I'd never needed it. It's the farthest thing from sexy.

Ditto for scars from injuries. Basically, if it's not a deliberate scarification for aesthetic purposes or the scarred initiating the scar-touching, it grosses me out bad.

[mimi-sardinia.livejournal.com]

You know, I'm a completely cis female and the idea of a trans-man having problem with attention being paid to pre-op breasts seems... downright logical to the point where I don't understand how people could fail to understand it.

I don't understand why someone would write fics like that... unless they have some boob fetish.

[(Anonymous)]

I can't be the only one trying to figure what transmale posters we have here. I can think of one, though.

This is a good post, I just think, wait, we're a small group, sort of. Maybe not that small!

[(Anonymous)]

Most trans fic is about fetishising trans bodies, more news at 11!

(It's also in a lot of cases written by hetero- or bisexual cis women who, in my humble opinion, just want to write het sex of slash ships without getting accused of erasing gay people by doing a classic genderbend, and trans fic is the next best thing for them - two birds with one stone, really. They get to pretend they're all progressive when they're really, really not AND they get their shit past the radar.)

[kallanda_lee]

Ugh, I'm not a trans man, but I have boob issues, and frankly the way you describe the sex scene would make me feel uncomfortable about my boobs - so yeah, I get you on that one.

[feotakahari]

Might fantasy settings be more to your taste, OP? When canon has magic that can change and reshape bodies, fanon is a lot more likely to have trans characters fully transition.

[(Anonymous)]

Porn is porn is porn and I write bad porn to top it.

But I know the trend! I do not even read such fics but it struck me as odd. It doesn't go like bad porn but like a fluffy cliche of "if it's you, I am okay with you crossing my limits :)" so it's been established as it being a limit because of horrid people and yadda yadda.

Then again, anything like that would make me meh. "if it's you, I can do blowjobs despite hating blowjobs but I will do one to show you how much I love you."

Both happen. But. When it's a trend, eh. Then again, each to their own.

[(Anonymous)]

I can understand that.

If people are going write fic for brownie social justice points, they should take the trouble to at least make it realistic.

This is one of the reasons

[(Anonymous)]

Issues similar to this was one of the reasons I never wrote a fanfiction that featured a character that is presented as male in canon as a male identifying intersex person who chromosome-wise was XX and essentially had "female genitals." (this was almost entirely based on an actual intersex condition which I researched) In my fic, he was raised as male and had puberty that masculinized him enough that he passed fairly well and didn't suffer very much from dysphoria. At one point he enters a relationship with a female character who my fic was a trans woman who had been on HRT for a while who had not yet gotten bottom surgery. At one point they would try having penetrative sex with the guy on the bottom and her penetrating him (this would be treated as something a bit out of the ordinary and not something done lightly)

I never got around to it partially because of the issues I was afraid I could run into even after research and also the fact the plot that was a backdrop to this relationship (because I didn't want to have this fic be just "Imagine *character* but if they were TRANS") was actually fairly complicated and long and I didn't have the time.

[annethecatdetective]

Urgh, I feel you.

Like, it's one thing where the couple has been together for a while, the binder comes off, a shirt doesn't immediately come on, and it's a show of trust in that they trust their partner to see them topless and not focus on or be influenced by their breast tissue, and to treat them the same way they always have. I'm all for fics where couples re-negotiate boundaries based on deepening trust. But I agree, when it turns into breast-play, it's a back-button. Like, suddenly this character is just a pair of breasts and everyone is happy, even though we know that up until that point, he's actively wanted to be rid of that part of himself?

I think it helps when that 'trust' moment first happens in a non-sexual setting, as fics go? Because it doesn't jump into 'and then boobs!', but... like...

Yeah, OP, I feel you. (I mean, I am non-binary, so my own dysphoria is far from constant, but the chest is the worst)

[(Anonymous)]

At least the trend of every trans male character being forced out of the closet by getting pregnant seems to be dying down...

[(Anonymous)]

there's such a creepy fandom fetishization of binders/binding in general written mostly by cis women with no experience w/ dysphoria, binders seem the extent of their knowledge on anything trans.

as a trans guy I'd never willingly read fics with trans characters.

[(Anonymous)]

I'm trans, engaged, and my fiancee of 4 years has never seen me without my binder on, or without a baggy shirt. She's never seen a hint of shape under my shirt due to how I stand and sit without my binder. I trust her with my life and we are regularly intimate, but that particularly nudity isn't about trust or intimacy. It's not me, and it is beyond uncomfortable to even think about my chest being touched or casually viewed. My binder isn't about presenting to society- I wear it when home alone. I'd never take it off if it wouldn't do me damage. So.. secret I can relate to.

I'm also assuming that most of these trans fictional men are pre-T, because T wreaks havoc on breast tissue. Even if you're very well endowed, it breaks the tissue down to somewhere south of firm and they're not the full and perky female breasts of fantasy.

[(Anonymous)]

I think one of the reasons this is so eeeh is it's an unfortunate intersection of Healing Cock, and real life issues.

Dysphoria doesn't care if the whole damn world shows up and throws a ticker tape parade for your body being perfect just the way it is, you're still dysphoric. And no amount of Body Positive fringe Men With Boobs And Pussies And Periods And Who Look Just Like Women Are REAL MEN Too! talk can fix it. You fix it by transitioning. That's it.

And in fiction, yeah, Magical Healing Cock is a thing! It's nice to imagine that depression or PTSD or even the flu can be cured by the power of love and a good sweaty hump session. So the idea of using Healing Cock on dysphoria isn't any more unrealistic than using it on PTSD.

But when a lot of trans people are currently battling against the tide of "Have... you just tried maybe just not being trans?" GEE, I NEVER THOUGHT OF THAT. Whoo. I'll try not being diabetic too and WHOA my body just started producing its own insulin through the power of trying! It's just sad because I sure WANTED to spend years dealing with painful shots, and uncomfortable shapewear, and being basically unhireable, and treated like shit by random strangers. It was going to be a blast! (Not that being trans is all sadness and suffering and woe, but you offer most people the option between jabbing themselves with a needle on a regular basis and not having to, and they're going to go for the no-needle option)

So Magic Healing Cock comes juuuust a little too close to the RL erasure.