[ SECRET POST #3556 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #3556 ⌋

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[Lord of the Rings trilogy]



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[pride and prejudice; unnamed others]


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[Endeavour]


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[Tim Curry / Movies: IT, Rocky Horror Picture Show, Clue, Legend]


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[Loud House]


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[MST3K]














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virgin writing sex over here

[(Anonymous)]

But what I really need are the logistics of post-sex. Because on one hand, I hear its so messy and bodily fluids ew strip and remake the bed, and on the other I guess some people just go to sleep right after.

So, generally speaking, how messy would you say PIV sex with condom (maybe a couple times) would be? Could you fuck, cuddle and sleep right after, or do you have to clean that mess up?

Re: virgin writing sex over here

[philstar22]

I think it depends on the character in terms of what they like. The one character I write most often is obsessed with order, and I tend to interpret him as practically OCD. So he (or whoever he is with) generally always cleans except for a few occasions where there is a specific reason why they don't. But other characters who don't care as much would probably be fine with cuddling and sleeping. There is probably noticeable fluids that feel sticky and cold, but that isn't going to bother everyone.

Re: virgin writing sex over here

[kallanda_lee]

Here's the thing: people differ. Some don't mind a mess, some do. I generally prefer tp
o do some basic-clean-up. Some people prefer to do full-on showers. I even met a guy who hated post-cleanup and actually enjoyed to stay mess after.

If a condom was used properly, there won't be that much mess, though there still might be general sweatiness and and obviously of the girl was very wet there might be some stains from that.More so if lubricant was used.

Re: virgin writing sex over here

[philstar22]

Yes to all of this. And also even the same people can vary at different times I think? I mean, at least, I wrote one fic where the character who usually needs to be clean decides not to just to keep the other's scent on them for a while. So I think it depends on both the people and the particular circumstances and situations.

Re: virgin writing sex over here

[(Anonymous)]

With a condom? Probably not messy enough that you'd instantly change the sheets, if messy at all.

I'd say fewer bodily fluids get on the sheets than you think unless someone is really leaking at the wrong angle or pressed up against the sheets. You do get kinda sweaty during sex though, so there are possibly sweaty sheets to consider.

Re: virgin writing sex over here

[(Anonymous)]

I am a lesbian so have never had PIV specifically, but I would think it just depends on the people (how wet does the woman get, how sweaty do you get, does squirting happen, etc). I have never felt the need to change the bedsheets myself, but others might. Though, if condoms are used you are cutting down on a lot of the mess.

In a story sense, if nothing extremely messy happens during sex, changing the bed after would be an okay way to indicate your character is a very clean, maybe uptight person in general

Re: virgin writing sex over here

[(Anonymous)]

It depends, although there's usually a wet spot on the bed from bodily fluids, especially if we're talking missionary position. Also some people (myself included) like to put a towel down beforehand (if it's not spontaneous) for just that reason. Woman on top seems to be, in my experience, less messy, and it's more messy if there's cunnilingus beforehand. You can fuck, cuddle, and sleep afterwards, sure, but some prefer to clean up while others are content with sleeping in the wet spot!

Re: virgin writing sex over here

[(Anonymous)]

Sa

I should add that the person who volunteers to take the wet spot side of the bed is a gem and that is considered a sweet thing to do. Like you could have a scene where character A asks if the sheets could be changed and character B says nah babe I'll take the wet spot, and character A goes awww. :D

Re: virgin writing sex over here

[(Anonymous)]

character B says nah babe I'll take the wet spot, and character A goes awww.

I se this scene a lot, and never really got it. In an established long-term relationship, most couples have established which side of the bed they like and always sleep there. Many even maintain those L/R positions when travelling or otherwise not in their home bed. Wet spots would vary in location most times. B's offer to take the wet spot is moot if it's on A's side.

Or maybe I'd just like to see real-couple dynamics like that in more fic?

Re: virgin writing sex over here

[(Anonymous)]

For me the thing is, the way I write sex and the way I have sex are usually two totally different things. The sex I write is idealized and full of my personal fantasies. Real life sex can be silly, awkward, meh, a whole variety of things.

Example, in real life, I'm a double-protection girl because I'm petrified of getting pregnant (and no one will take out any pertinent parts even though hormone surges make my mental illness symptoms flare.). In fic? Condoms for casual sex, the pill for a deepening relationship, bareback all the way once in a committed relationship.

As for "after sex", I usually have the couples just cuddle up and go to sleep, though sometimes there's a little cleanup (a towel underneath that gets whipped off the bed, dampened washcloth for body parts, etc). Real life really depends. There's a reason I have different sheet sets (red for during periods, waterproofing of some sort in case of squirting, etc.)

Ahem. /end TMI

Re: virgin writing sex over here

[(Anonymous)]

we usually just put something over the wet spot and went to sleep, sometimes not even that (wasn't as bothered by it as he was)

with a condom i can't imagine there would be a notable mess to clean up unless you're fussy over clean sheets

So hey. Listen.

[chardmonster]

What mood are you going for here?

I fear that someone has lead you to believe that good fiction means writing every single little thing. How many books have you read that detail every time the protagonist goes to the bathroom? I mean they must have to pee during the story, right? It's unrealistic that they wouldn't. So how many bathroom scenes do you want to read?

Messiness depends on what you do, but: you are under no obligation to mention the mess. Don't mention it unless it's serving a function. Is it telling us something important about the characters? I want to make sure you're not QWOP'ing yourself into something clumsier than it needs to be.

Re: So hey. Listen.

[(Anonymous)]

^^^ this is the smartest advice in this thread

Re: So hey. Listen.

[(Anonymous)]

I'm not sure how wanting to be realistic about things that generally happen after sex is at all the same as how often someone pees. Everyone pees, without question. Sex is something I have no experience with so I have no frame of reference for, and honestly, I'm a little insulted by your comment.

Re: So hey. Listen.

[chardmonster]

Then I apologize--I think you misread my tone there.

Most stories don't really talk about this stuff because it isn't really that interesting. It's only interesting if it's saying something about the characters. That's why I mention the bathroom--you'd only write about your character using the bathroom if it reveals something about that character. Otherwise it isn't interesting enough to include for most authors.

There's a danger in being so invested in realism that you end up messing up the flow of your story. Does that make sense? I'm not criticizing you for wanting details, just saying they might not be necessary.

Put another way

[chardmonster]

Most bodice-rippers aren't all like

And then Laird Malcolm went to Ye Olde Towel Cabinet and pulled out The Sex Towel, which he and Lady Farthingham only used for sex.

"Oh Malcolm!" breathed Lady Farthingham. "You remembered! I get ever so wet when your penis enters my vagina, and I do hate doing laundry."

I mean a lot of us use towels but we don't bother using it in a story, especially a SEXY story. It's not that we have towel-related shame, it just isn't something we bother with.

Now if the story ISN'T sexy, and this would show something having to do with character--look how thoughtful and practical Laird Malcolm is!--that's different.

Re: So hey. Listen.

[(Anonymous)]

Not to try to read OP's mind, but I think it's not just a question of feeling like you need to record every piece of minutia. I think there's also something very specific to being a virgin and trying to write or think about sex, where, like... it's really easy to think about sex in terms of your massive and total incomprehension of it, and to think about the fundamental chasm that exists between anything that you could ever think of sex and the actual lived experience of sex, and how little you know about it or could know about it, and all of that kind of thing. And I can easily see how, if someone was trying to write about sex, that could easily translate that into an anxiety that you're going to miss something - something that anyone who's had sex would obviously and immediately know, but that someone who hasn't had sex wouldn't think of. Which then translates into an anxiety for details and realism, as a way to paper over that gap.

If that makes any sense at all.

Re: So hey. Listen.

[chardmonster]

I agree! And I'm totally not trying to diminish that. That's why I tried to contextualize it with something like going to the bathroom (i.e. something we all have to deal with but don't usually bother writing about)

Re: So hey. Listen.

[(Anonymous)]

Sure. But my point is that I don't think OP's attitude comes out of being a poor writer paying too much attention to detail. It comes out of inexperience with sex, specifically - like anon said above, they do have experience with peeing, and they don't have experience with having sex, and you don't necessarily know which parts about having sex are going to be things that you don't need to mention like you do with going to the bathroom. And it comes from being anxious about that specific inexperience.

Re: So hey. Listen.

[(Anonymous)]

Maybe the description is part of the turn-on, though? I like a good descriptive sex scene, and I'm probably not the only one.

Re: So hey. Listen.

[(Anonymous)]

You can sleep right on it. Sometimes people talk and then when you sleep it has dried out.

Re: So hey. Listen.

[world_eater]

I would also like to point out that before you can decide what details to include or not, you have to actually know them, so it's very good to ask and it should never be discouraged

Re: So hey. Listen.

[chardmonster]

I really don't understand why people are pissed at me for not answering the question when I didn't even comment until multiple people had already answered the question. OP has info, guys.

Re: virgin writing sex over here

[(Anonymous)]

If it's good it's messy. There are smells (not necessarily bad), fluids, sweat etc. That's half the fun! The sheets are usually damp.

Re: virgin writing sex over here

[(Anonymous)]

Towels are great for not getting the sheets messy.