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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2021-12-27 05:59 pm

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[personal profile] feotakahari 2021-12-27 11:39 pm (UTC)(link)
I’m not much for the third act misunderstanding, or the extraneous dude who gets dumped in the end. I’d rather see the lovers kill zombies together.

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(Anonymous) 2021-12-27 11:52 pm (UTC)(link)
My theory is: I like romance. It's good and I enjoying reading it. But - and I think this is probably basically the case for most people - the kinds of romance that I like, that appeal to me, are hyper-specific. There are a lot of things that fundamentally don't work for me. And not just in the sense of big, splashy, romance-genre categories or tropes, but hyper-specific in terms of feeling and vibe and character and dialogue.

So finding a romance in the romance genre that works for me is extremely difficult, because all books appear alike and it's almost impossible to tell whether a book will work for me or not without reading it. But if a writer is telling a story - whether it's smut or comedy or action - that I already like and whose aesthetic I appreciate, the chances are a lot higher that I will also enjoy their interpretation of romance.

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(Anonymous) 2021-12-27 11:56 pm (UTC)(link)
I don't mind romance as a subplot, just as long it isn't obviously shoehorned in.

(Anonymous) 2021-12-28 12:19 am (UTC)(link)
I've come to really enjoy romance as a genre as I've gotten older. Even the tired silly tropes and cliches to the more contemporary ones that are more inclusive (across the board -- race, ethnicity, gender, religion, etc. Etc.), and (at least the ones I've been reading) has all of the characters (MC & love interest) working on themselves. Like half of the issue between the two getting together often times is "I need to work on myself before we get too involved but also I like you and I feel like I'm able to be closer to my best self around you please don't leave forever". And that's on both ends. Neither character is perfect. And the smut is top grade !

That said, I totally get not wanting that to be the main plot. I really enjoy a romance subplot when handled well in a book that's primarily action/mystery/sci Fi/fantasy/etc. If it's shoehorned in it's better just left out. I also enjoy when my favorite side characters in these books get their romance (even if the MC doesn't).
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[personal profile] pantswarrior 2021-12-28 12:23 am (UTC)(link)
Almost agree with this 100% except that smut on its own interests me personally even less than romance.

But by all means, throw in some good action/adventure/drama/sci-fi/fantasy plot that has a romance element and I will probably ship "it", whatever "it" is. If it's good enough I might even not skim over the smut. ;)

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(Anonymous) 2021-12-28 02:25 am (UTC)(link)
I'm like that with games. I love doing romance subplots in games where the genre isn't romantic. For example, the romance in Mass Effect or doing little things for the girls (and Barret) in FF7 so the one you treated best is your date in the Golden Saucer. But I can't play it if it's like full on romantic, such as visual novels romance which usually aren't my cup of tea, though I'm not too unopposed depending on the subject matter. I just like doing it as a ongoing subplot while I'm saving the world.
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[personal profile] meadowphoenix 2021-12-28 05:47 am (UTC)(link)
I love pure romance, but that's because I'm interested in emotional exploration, like what kind of behavior and emotions represent love. I think that's either too esoteric or too uncomplicated for a lot of people depending on their experiences and their own self-knowledge. Most of my behavior isn't dependant on my feelings, so it's pretty interesting to read for me, but I think it can very easily feel like there's no drive to the plot.

(Anonymous) 2021-12-28 07:58 am (UTC)(link)
I love a good romance. I used to have the same opinion as anon more or less but I've learned to enjoy them, particularly as period pieces. I feel like with historical pieces there are often less contrived reasons for the leads to have a conflict in getting/staying together. But for modern settings and the romantic comedies it's all contrived or of the "I have to work on myself" variety and to be honest I really, really hate the "I have to work on myself" stuff. Like, it's not necessarily bad it just starts reading like take care of yourself and drink water type of thing rather than engaging media to me. While I love a good popcorn type story I'm not the type of person who sits down with something "just for the warm fuzzies" cause I just get bored, since they're pretty predictable and not in the fun way.

It can be hard to find a good romance but I think people often forget that all it takes for something to count as a romance is that the characters' relationship is a main, up front focus and has consequences/plot relevance outside their interpersonal bubble. There are no rules saying it can't be anything else on top of that.

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(Anonymous) 2021-12-27 11:37 pm (UTC)(link)
The problem is that I can very easily picture our tosser-in-chief doing exactly that.

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Counterpoint: this rules actually

(Anonymous) 2021-12-27 11:56 pm (UTC)(link)
God, this drives me absolutely insane. I have no idea what the equivalent would be, but "bro" is NOT it.

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(Anonymous) 2021-12-27 11:33 pm (UTC)(link)
They're both huge fandoms that lend themselves to cries of 'childhood ruined', so I can see that.

I think as a whole SW is slightly worse, even though it's easier to find a little (mostly sane) niche in. Like, for me it wasn't that difficult to find a dozen or two people who like the same things and who aren't jerks. For the MCU though... I tried, but I had to settle for blogs with pretty pics.

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There is a Godzilla out there for everyone.

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(Anonymous) 2021-12-27 11:15 pm (UTC)(link)
uhhhhh not that either thing is good, but there's a huge glaring difference between those two you're missing here w/r/t doing things to yourself vs doing things to other people without their consent

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hopefully she's just a teenager who will grow out of it. if not then i agree that her bad behavior should be admonished by the group.

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[personal profile] feotakahari 2021-12-27 11:35 pm (UTC)(link)
This is why Let’s Players suffer for our amusement. See also: Fragile Dreams.

BTW, do I need to know about Sword & Fairy 1-5?

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