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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2023-07-02 02:35 pm

[ SECRET POST #6022 ]


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(Anonymous) 2023-07-02 07:12 pm (UTC)(link)
There is a Stargate Atlantis fic that does this and it always stuck with me because of how rare it is

https://archiveofourown.org/works/177612

Same anon

(Anonymous) 2023-07-02 07:16 pm (UTC)(link)
And by does this I mean a character gets pregnant (mpreg) and gets an abortion.

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(Anonymous) 2023-07-02 07:50 pm (UTC)(link)
I remember that fic. I remember reading it and thinking John's reaction was exactly how I'd react. And I loved that it wasn't just black and white emotionally but still a firm decision.

I have a complicated relationship with pregnancy and kids - I work with pregnant people and with babies and kids and love it, but being pregnant myself would be a whole knot of body horror and dysphoria. And I love reading mpreg and kid fic but it was nice to see it mixed up in that one. Because yeah, sometimes abortion is the right choice and it would be nice if more people would acknowledge and explore that.

(Anonymous) 2023-07-02 07:12 pm (UTC)(link)
And now I'm annoyed with Patricia Briggs again.

(Anonymous) 2023-07-02 07:14 pm (UTC)(link)
It took me several tries to read this the right way. I kept thinking “if a kid gets pregnant, why on earth shouldn’t they get an abortion???”

(Anonymous) 2023-07-02 07:15 pm (UTC)(link)
I mean it's logistically hard to do in actual shows because if an actress is pregnant IRL they can't really get rid of the baby and say she had an abortion in the story. And a non-insignificant number of on-show pregnancy story arcs seem to be brought on by IRL pregnancies because what else can they do, cancel for a year

The others though, sure, that'd be nice

(Anonymous) 2023-07-03 03:49 am (UTC)(link)
If fat suits exist, I don't see why prosthetics and effects shouldn't be able to make it look like someone is pregnant when they're not. It's more that you'd need solid support (perhaps even specifically financial support or bodyguards) for the actresses that agree to put an onscreen face on the decision to abort a pregnancy, in opposition to the people who are nuts about being against it.

But, I don't know, maybe that's an American problem. Maybe anons who watch mostly European media could rec us some good fiction that shows more the view people have of it over there? Because I have tried to explain the culture fight over abortion in the US to western European friends and it seems completely unthinkable to them. Like ... self-evident that pregnancy control is a human right for women, and not up for debate in the slightest.

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(Anonymous) 2023-07-03 02:04 pm (UTC)(link)
I take your point that a lot of TV pregnancy storylines are brought on by RL pregnancies and those are probably gonna have to go to term, but vanishingly few abortions take place after the woman starts showing noticeably. You would not have to deal with that at all.

The nice thing about an abortion storyline is unlike a baby storyline, you can do it as a one-episode B plot that's over with in about three days, while getting in some good character/relationship development and h/c. (Plus you don't have to cast babies, which is always the worst.)
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[personal profile] philstar22 2023-07-02 07:18 pm (UTC)(link)
I love that Grey's did this with Christina. I hated that they had Owen angry about it and then completely ruined his character and turned him into a jerk, though.
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[personal profile] meadowphoenix 2023-07-02 07:31 pm (UTC)(link)
Olivia had an abortion on scandal.

Christina Yang also has one on the show (her first pregnancy we see she ~loses~ before she can have an abortion), and although Owen IS THE FUCKING WORST about it, Christina never feels at all like she shouldn't have.

I feel like Dear White People's abortion storyline was a direct comment of those show that mention it only for the character to have the kid.

I sorta remember that House had a couple episodes where women get abortions?

Maude's abortion is iconic.

there's not enough that's for sure

(Anonymous) 2023-07-02 07:34 pm (UTC)(link)
I agree that it's to have it both ways. But I also think it's because a pregnancy and baby can draw out the plot for several months to a year and screenwriters think the audience thinks labor scenes are hilarious.

(Anonymous) 2023-07-03 03:51 am (UTC)(link)
Yeah, well. If the audience is supposed to be me, they are not. And never have been.

(Anonymous) 2023-07-02 08:28 pm (UTC)(link)
Yes! I need more of that.
Like I can only remember the one show with the abortion plot... The Magicians 🤦

(Anonymous) 2023-07-02 09:02 pm (UTC)(link)
Yeah, I can see that. I think it's because a lot of people aren't comfortable with abortion like that even if they believe in freedom of choice. The mother choosing to keep the baby after all (while contemplating abortion in an appropriately serious manner) is a win win.
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[personal profile] tabaqui 2023-07-02 09:16 pm (UTC)(link)
SAME!!!
And, in a lot of the very few shows that go the abortion route, they always make sure to have at least one (main or side) character having an abortion and getting all weepy and sad and 'omg, my baaaaaaaaaaaybeeeeeeeeee!!' about it. Just to show that even though it's a CHOICE YOU GET, you'll be all sad and fucked up about it most likely.

They did a pretty good job of it in 'Shameless', and an excellent job of it in 'Sex Education'. I can't think of any others, sadly.

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(Anonymous) 2023-07-03 12:08 am (UTC)(link)
Days of Our Lives did it recently, surprised the hell out of me. It's still mentioned every now and again, but the woman was never shown as regretting it. I was kinda impressed.

(Anonymous) 2023-07-03 12:37 am (UTC)(link)
Okay, I totally feel you, one THOUSAND percent. This absolutely is how it goes like 99% of the time and it's infuriating.

However.

S1 of GLOW has a main character getting an abortion, and it's handled really well.

S1 of Sex Education has a main character getting an abortion, and it's handled really well.

There's an episode of Bojack Horseman where a main character gets an abortion, and it's handled really well.

And okay, this one is not the scenario you're describing at all, but S1 of Jessica Jones involves a character (recurring, not main) demanding an abortificant pill, and fucking hoovering it like, "Nah, I do not need you to ask me if I'm sure."

I feel like I've seen one or two more, but I can't recall them at the moment.

(Anonymous) 2023-07-03 12:42 am (UTC)(link)
First season of GLOW, a major character finds out she's pregnant then goes and gets an abortion and it's all very straightforward.

(Anonymous) 2023-07-03 02:27 am (UTC)(link)
Didn't Bojack Horseman had an ep related with abortion?

(Anonymous) 2023-07-03 03:33 am (UTC)(link)
I'm keeping an AO3 collection for stories where someone has an abortion and both the abortion and the sex (or other babymaking activity) that resulted in the abortion are consensual and not presented as tragic.

It is very small.

I have submissions open and every single submission so far has been rapefic.

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[personal profile] deleted_scenes 2023-07-03 06:24 am (UTC)(link)
The most recent season of Grey's Anatomy (I know, I know) have characters making a Sexual Health Care clinic and they provide terminations. In one recent episode they showed a (G rated/not graphic) abortion in real time. It was very early in the pregnancy. It was a case of the week, but it's something. It was approached thoughtfully and gently and without judgement.

https://people.com/tv/greys-anatomy-recap-abortion-step-by-step-and-new-chief/

Station 19 had a main character have an abortion and she was tended to, not judged and comforted through the whole procedure.

(Anonymous) 2023-07-03 06:44 am (UTC)(link)
Except the only reason characters get pregnant is because they wanted a baby plot. You can't have a baby plot without a baby. It's not because of a grand scheme to always present having the baby as the correct choice to make people IRL not want to have abortions.

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This ^^

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(Anonymous) 2023-07-03 01:20 pm (UTC)(link)
I like that this comment thread lists quite a few exceptions to the extremely annoying rule.

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(Anonymous) 2023-07-04 07:23 am (UTC)(link)
You know, I hadn't noticed how rare this is (abortion as a plotline) until you mentioned it, but you're right.