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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2011-07-10 03:51 pm

[ SECRET POST #1650 ]

⌈ Secret Post #1650 ⌋


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[identity profile] fscom.livejournal.com 2011-07-10 07:58 pm (UTC)(link)
25. http://i.imgur.com/uDqS7.jpg

[identity profile] rosehiptea.livejournal.com 2011-07-10 08:11 pm (UTC)(link)
So the secret here is that it's not extremely homophobic to say something extremely homophobic, especially if you're friends with someone who kinda sorta might be gay maybe.

I can see why you wanted to keep that a secret.

[identity profile] joereaves.livejournal.com 2011-07-10 08:20 pm (UTC)(link)
This - he's not homophobic he just doesn't "accept homosexuals"... How is someone not accepting that you exist/have the right to exist (not sure exactly how to interpret it since last I checked gay people aren't like Tinkerbell and saying I don't believe in homosexuals doesn't make them vanish) *not* extremely bigoted?

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[identity profile] lady-lilith.livejournal.com 2011-07-10 09:03 pm (UTC)(link)
Thank you for saying what I came here to say better that I could have said it.

(Anonymous) 2011-07-10 08:24 pm (UTC)(link)
I've no idea who that guy is, but he sounds pretty damn homophobic to me.

[identity profile] http://users.livejournal.com/nightcrawler_2_/ 2011-07-10 08:37 pm (UTC)(link)
I have no idea who this dude is, but I sure want to punch him in the face! Maybe then he'll "acknowledge" me.

[identity profile] twilightedge.livejournal.com 2011-07-10 08:37 pm (UTC)(link)
I don't know who he is but I think what he said is fine. He chooses to take on acting roles that reflect his beliefs. It's not as if he's an actor (I assume he's in a music group right?) so that would be his main focus. If he is an actor, well he can choose what job he wants.

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[identity profile] thegutterati.livejournal.com 2011-07-10 08:38 pm (UTC)(link)
Yeah, he sounds homophobic to me. Maybe not as homophobic as, say, my uncle who wants to "play shoot em' up with the gays" (gee that sure makes me feel safe at family gatherings AT HIS HOUSE ), but he sounds homophobic, none the less. He just sounds like the more civil type of homophobe (hahaha that sounds like an oxymoron).

(Anonymous) 2011-07-10 08:39 pm (UTC)(link)
yep, he does sound extremely homophobic. if you can't understand this, you really don't know what 'homophobic' means.

(Anonymous) 2011-07-10 09:00 pm (UTC)(link)
Eh... I don't know who this person is, but if people are attacking him/giving him shit over that statement, I think they need to learn to live and let live. I've met a lot of Christians who don't like to acknowledge homosexuality, but they try to be respectful and low-key about it. It's STILL homophobic but at least they're not picking fights about it and only bring it up if people ask them a direct question about it (e.g. "So what are your views on homosexuality?"). You can call them out for it, but I don't think that belligerence is very likely at all to change anyone's thoughts, and it's not like they're hurting anyone by NOT stating their opinions unless directly asked. So why do it other than to feel all RIGHTEOUSLY ANGRY?

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ext_1329685: Image of Donald Glover grinning and wearing glasses. (shinee - sanso gateun neo)

[identity profile] cherrycoloured.livejournal.com 2011-07-10 09:03 pm (UTC)(link)
Siwon is homophobic. Is he awesome in other ways? Of course! However, that doesn't mean he isn't also bigoted. Not all bigots are ugly people with terrible personalities, and just because he's handsome and charming doesn't mean he's perfect.

Also, I hate the "he can't be homophobic, he's friends with Heechul/whatever other guy in Super Junior acts in a 'feminine' way." We don't know for a fact that Heechul is gay. These are Korean idols, and their personalities are mostly manufactured, not to mention that just because he acts in a stereotypically girly way doesn't mean he's gay.

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[identity profile] goobbledigook.livejournal.com 2011-07-10 09:09 pm (UTC)(link)
Quite a bit of people are polite with gay people upfront, only to say homophobic stuff behind their back. If you need an example of this, OP, just read what that guy is saying on your secret.

[identity profile] seiberwing.livejournal.com 2011-07-10 09:33 pm (UTC)(link)
As a woman in society I was indeed created with specific roles and duties.

But fuck you if you think I should follow them, cause I ain't.

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(Anonymous) 2011-07-10 09:45 pm (UTC)(link)
1) jesus, not this shit again. are we back in 2007?
2) in korea, they're worse about homosexuality than the us. (they still consider it a "disease") the christians there are more conservative than the us ones, if you can believe.
3) lol @ assuming shit about heechul.
4) i've always felt that siwon was only giving a canned answer because he really seem to "acknowledge" people. that doesn't mean "oh he's bffs with ____, so that's clear proof that he's not homophobic!" i just figured, "it's a canned answer that he says to protect his ass from hurdles of his fellow christians."

/2 cents.

(Anonymous) 2011-07-10 10:19 pm (UTC)(link)
Tbh, I'd be even more surprised if a Korean popstar/actor isn't homophobic.

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[identity profile] akuryounoseiki.livejournal.com 2011-07-10 10:29 pm (UTC)(link)
Yes, Siwon comes from a culture that is far less tolerant of sexualities and lifestyles that deviate from anything heteronormative--but this does not erase the fact that what he is saying and has said is incredibly hurtful and problematic.

[identity profile] oflittlebrain.livejournal.com 2011-07-10 11:09 pm (UTC)(link)
ugh that guy is so attractive why does he have to be such a dickhead D:

anyway NEWFLASH: YOU ARE A BLIND FANGIRL, PULL YOUR HEAD OUT OF YOUR ASS

[identity profile] danaphilip.livejournal.com 2011-07-11 02:04 am (UTC)(link)
There is a bridge...

go jump off it.

(Anonymous) 2011-07-11 03:34 am (UTC)(link)
Yeah, that's pretty fucking homophobic.

[identity profile] writerserenyty.livejournal.com 2011-07-11 04:31 am (UTC)(link)
OP, newsflash, that's both homophobic and sexist. So. Yeah.

[identity profile] miss-kate18.livejournal.com 2011-07-11 09:03 am (UTC)(link)
Well, I don't like to 'acknowledge' homophobes, yet sadly they still exist!

[identity profile] pistachu.livejournal.com 2011-07-11 08:41 pm (UTC)(link)
"... God created Man and Wowen with specific characteristics and duties."

with this quote in context, he even sound like some sexist asshole to me. Sorry OP, but I dislike.

[identity profile] relmneiko.livejournal.com 2011-07-11 10:08 pm (UTC)(link)
I thought Siwon being a homophobe was common knowledge. I get that you wanna defend your bias, OP, but you're just deluding yourself.
Edited 2011-07-11 22:08 (UTC)

[identity profile] robinamori.livejournal.com 2011-07-12 01:57 pm (UTC)(link)
ugh

[identity profile] jump2narnia.livejournal.com 2011-07-14 11:13 pm (UTC)(link)
As a lesbian AND a Christian AND a k-pop fan (though not a Super Junior fan), I have to call it like I see it. What Siwon said is indeed homophobic. Though just because he was raised Christian doesn't mean that he has to be so bigoted (I'm an example of this). The dude doesn't acknowledge our existence. If that's not homophobic, I don't know what is anymore.