[ SECRET POST #1896 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #1896 ⌋


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Comments

[fscom.livejournal.com]

05. http://i.imgur.com/roXwd.jpg

[emblazer.livejournal.com]

I completely agree. I just watched the episode involving asexuality yesterday. I was angry, to say the least. I was excited to see it at first, but then it backfired. Big time. It would bother me as much if:
a) They didn't use actual statistics for asexuals before disproving the patient's asexualities.
b) They at least implied that House's patients were not representative of the entire asexual population.

[(Anonymous)]

which episode is this? I'd like to see it. Because apparently I like to rage.

[(Anonymous)]

Okay, I skimmed by this secret because A. House and B. unreadable. But now I'm curious - what does the secret say?

[with-rainfall.livejournal.com]

^That. I know it's typical House, but I didn't like how smug and righteous he was about it, either.

[(Anonymous)]

lol

[(Anonymous)]

you're not alone, many people took issue with this episode as well.

[(Anonymous)]

I'm confused. Did the patient seek out help for their low sex drive?

I'd have been annoyed if my orientation had been portrayed in such a mannerism, but asexuality is even more complicated as there ARE people with legitimate disorders which cause problems in bed. Then there are asexuals who are actually completely happy not having relations at all.

Someone with a health problem may mistake it as asexuality, and someone asexual might mistake it for a problem, so I would assume the statistics on who is and who isn't are confusing.

[emblazer.livejournal.com]

Two people came into the hospital, both identifying as asexuals on their health forms, and both happily married for 10 years.
Wilson was baffled by their claims of being asexuals, as he didn't know the orientation existed, so he looked into asexual statistic, and mentioned his findings to House. House insisted that there was something wrong with Wilson's patients, and that he could prove it, because asexuality goes against the very nature of humans. Wilson bet him 100 dollars that he was wrong.

House won. The man had erectile dysfunction (an odd case of it, though. It has something to do with the brain. I can't recall exactly what), and the wife had been faking her asexuality for her husband's sake.

I don't think the writers meant for it to come off as it did, but it was presented in a way that made it seem like all asexuals had disorders, or there was something wrong with them.

I really think it was just House's character, and was not written with malicious intent, but because no one proved House otherwise... not all viewers may recognize it for what it is.

[(Anonymous)]

No, the original patient went in for some unrelated issue, and one of the questions was whether she could be pregnant or not. She said absolutely not, because she and her husband were both asexual and didn't have sex, and House took it upon himself to find out what was wrong with them because apparently it's impossible for someone to not be interested in sex. It ended up being that the husband had a tumor or something that caused his "asexuality" (which in the show was portrayed as erectile dysfunction, which is...not at all the same thing) and the wife was lying about being asexual.

The ending message was if you're asexual you're either lying or you have a medical condition, and they couldn't even get their definitions right (lack of sexual attraction ≠ sexual dysfunction). Oh, and there was a line in there somewhere about how if you're not interested in sex you have a "seriously screwed up world view". The entire plot was a giant mess and ridiculously offensive.

[(Anonymous)]

I'm not asexual, so I can't say I know what it feels like to be dismissed like this, but watching that episode made me furious. It's one thing for House to be his typical insensitive self towards minorities, but it's quite another to show him scientifically disproving the asexuality of not one, but BOTH of his patients. The first thing I did after finishing the ep was sign the petition at change.org.

But don't let it get to you, anon! You're not a freak. Don't let some random uninformed TV writer tell you otherwise. There is absolutely nothing wrong about being asexual, and I really hope you'll feel comfortable with yourself again soon. *hugs*

[(Anonymous)]

I assume he sought to disprove it because they were in a relationship. Asexuals being in relationships can be a hard thing for people to wrap their heads around.

My sister is an asexual. Always has been, always will be. But as such, she isn't interested in even starting relationships. She has strong, meaningful friendships without physical/sexual contact. She's entirely happy being this way.

Also, it sounds to me like the characters were happy enough without people fucking around in their sex lives. Two people can be great partners without a sex life, and it sounds to me like those two had it. If they weren't seeking help and didn't want it, it's fucking insulting for anyone to meddle in it.

[(Anonymous)]

wow.

you sound like privileged asshole. it's okay for house to racist/sexist/what have you but as soon as he picks on yours it's suddenly not okay?

shut the fuck up and sit down. I don't even like the show but you just sound like a prick.

[(Anonymous)]

The concept of the episode didn't bother me (with the whole bet thing), but it pissed me off that House was (as usual) right, and that there really was something "wrong" with the husband in order for him to feel no sexual urges. And it's especially annoying because it further shows that House isn't a diagnostic genius, like the show seems to believe he is. He takes wild shots in the dark, then the writers write a story based around that. And that's my problem with the show. House can say anything like "this patient has blonde hair. There must be something wrong with her!" and thus the show will eventually prove he is right through a series of ridiculous and convenient plot points, despite there being nothing essentially wrong with a patient being blonde in the first place.

IMO it would have been far more satisfying if the couple proved House wrong in the end, and that they really were a very happy married asexual couple.

[fenm.livejournal.com]

He takes wild shots in the dark, then the writers write a story based around that.

THIS. And his patients go through a lot--including near death and unnecessary surgery--while he fishes around for the right answer.

[saya22.livejournal.com]

Same OP. I always thought I was wired wrong and there's something dysfunctional about myself until I stumbled upon AVEN and the definition of asexuality. That episode of House brings back all those memories. Thank goodness for Sherlock, since a huge part of its fandom embraced Sherlock's asexuality and work that element into their Jonlock fics.

[with-rainfall.livejournal.com]

I really need to watch Sherlock someday, then. Is he actually asexual in canon, or is it just a fandom thing?

[(Anonymous)]

This show is bad about this. House assumes everyone out of the "norm" is doing it wrong. Kink, poly, even going as far as to question bisexuality. And he ALWAYS turns out to be right and the world continues to suck his misanthropist dick. I hate that... not everything fits into this cis straight white male's worldview and he should be WRONG about the "freaks" once in a while. PEOPLE LIVE HAPPILY THE WAY THEY ARE.. um. sorry. did not mean to rant. it just... yeah. bugs me too.

[(Anonymous)]

(sa)

oh and the other characters aren't much better either. you're doctors, dammit. treat the illness and stop meddling in their personal lives and telling them they're living it wrong etc etc. unless they're hurting some one, who the hell cares!

[misco.livejournal.com]

This shit pissed me off so much when I watched the episode that I actually ranted to two people in real life (who don't even watch the show) about it for well over an hour. I would normally try and keep my tv viewing thoughts/opinions to myself/online but I felt House (the show) really crossed the line here. I mean if the writers had tried to pull that stunt with any other sexuality/whatever there would have been an uproar but as it is it seems to have passed most people by.

I'd like to make it clear that I'm not involved in House fandom in any way and to be honest I'm only still watching the show for the most part because I've been watching it since the beginning and I'm a completist, and yet the damn programme still managed to piss me off to this extent.

WTF were they thiinking when they made the episode? How did that many people sign off on such a retarded and small-minded storyline? The producers/writers/actors should be fucking ashamed of themselves.

[(Anonymous)]

The thing with aces is that there aren't a lot of us, so most people don't really know about asexuality or understand it all too well. So it was really bad form for the writers to have the episode end as it did, because as another anon brought up, that episode is likely the first time many people have heard about asexuality, and no doubt they went away having the wrong idea. It's frustrating because the key point for ace awareness is the issue of erasure, and not only did this episode totally do that indirectly, but it brought about the wrong kind of awareness - making us look like we all have a medical problem or some stupid bullshit.

As an ace, I'm mad. It wasn't even House's attitude, since that's his entire asshole character. It was just the concept of the episode itself, like seriously what the fuck. And don't get me wrong I'm sure similar cases have happened in hospitals before or whatever, so it's not like it's a thing that can't or wouldn't happen, but I don't think it was right, in light of our struggles with awareness, to be like ~oh look this dude totally had something wrong with him all along, lol. Because now less educated people are going to treat us like Morgellons patients.

But hey whatever, ~*~entertainment~*~. I don't expect the media to care about minorities, not that it makes me any less pressed.

[dramaturgy.livejournal.com]

The rage I felt for that episode went beyond words. And once I got to the point where I could use words, they were not nice ones.

[heartsyhawk.livejournal.com]

I was, for the record, massively infuriated by both that one and the one with the guy who was only decent and good at marriage because he wasn't "man enough" anymore.

[manics-fan.livejournal.com]

This so much! I'll admit that I don't watch House, I heard about this episode on the asexuality group on LJ, but it seriously pisses me off. Asexuals get such little exposure on TV in general, which just makes it all the more fucking annoying when the few times we are referenced it's in the context of "they're either sick or lying".

I went to some forums after I heard to see if anyone else was bothered, and although there were a few angry remarks (probably from other asexuals) most of the people were just saying they loved the episode, and loved how they solved the problem. >:(

I also saw the apology from the episode's writer, and she basically said that House needed a case to solve and he couldn't be shown to be wrong. OK, seriously? Why would you want a show where the main character ALWAYS has to be right? Even then - as people have said - why not have the husband still be sick, but have the wife as genuinely asexual? That way House could be right (because heaven forbid that he could just *gasp* not be right for once) and it wouldn't have been so fucking insulting to asexuals!

[htebazytook.livejournal.com]

. . . you're only NOW becoming annoyed w/ this show?