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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2012-09-20 07:02 pm

[ SECRET POST #2088 ]


⌈ Secret Post #2088 ⌋

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[personal profile] intrigueing 2012-09-20 11:22 pm (UTC)(link)
Er...wtf? When people describe something you ship as a sibling or parent-child relationship, they usually just mean that's how they view the characters' dynamic and that's why they can't ship it. Categorizing whut? Incest-guilt whut? How on earth do you jump to that? Not everyone who disagrees with you is out to get you or silence you, you know. You're reeeeeeeaaaaalllly reaching here.
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[personal profile] elaminator 2012-09-20 11:40 pm (UTC)(link)
When people describe something you ship as a sibling or parent-child relationship, they usually just mean that's how they view the characters' dynamic and that's why they can't ship it.

This is why I add imo to my comments so often. I'm not sure if I've ever said this regarding siblings or parent-child relationships, but if I were going to it would be the way you describe it; not to guilt trip or blame anyone for anything. I...don't think I've ever seen anyone make a comment like that with the intent the secret is describing. Not saying it can't happen, but yea; maybe it's not as common as you think and you misunderstood?

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[personal profile] helenadax 2012-09-20 11:23 pm (UTC)(link)
I can't imagine anyone out there feeling guilty about his/her ship because someone else thinks the characters are like siblings.

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[personal profile] akacat 2012-09-20 11:33 pm (UTC)(link)
Opinions, they're a thing.

(Anonymous) 2012-09-20 11:37 pm (UTC)(link)
SO...are you refering only to people who look down on you for shipping it? Or even people who are just "well, this is my personal interpretation of the authors intent/prefernce/version/. Cause if it's the latter...way to sound like an ass.
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[personal profile] brooms 2012-09-20 11:41 pm (UTC)(link)
it bugs me, too.

(Anonymous) 2012-09-20 11:43 pm (UTC)(link)
And one more thing...age difference often has nothing to do with it. My favorite "parent/child" relationship is a nine years physical difference, between a 35 year old man with a 12 year olds body, and a 26 year old man with the emotional tantrum-throwing maturity of a toddler. Your point?

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[personal profile] iggy 2012-09-20 11:45 pm (UTC)(link)
People absolutely throw the accusation 'like siblings' toward ships just to hate on them. I know it's super common in my main fandom, but in pretty much every fandom I've been in before this, I've seen people pull it.

My favorite was back in the FMA fandom, I saw multiple Elricest shippers going on about how EdWinry was gross because they were like siblings. Um.

(There are also a fair amount of fans who kind of tout themselves superior for not shipping. Oh I only like bromances and family relationships. None of those silly romantic entanglements.)

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(Anonymous) 2012-09-21 12:17 am (UTC)(link)
Idgaf if people see a relationship as sibling-like and don't ship it, but what does annoy me is when they start claiming it's unrealistic... i.e. real people with a similar dynamic would never become a couple. Yes, real people can happily and consensually marry their best childhood friend, or someone with a big age difference. It really does happen sometimes. Get over it.

(Anonymous) 2012-09-21 12:32 am (UTC)(link)
Not liking a ship because of how one sees the dynamic is not the same as telling other people they're shipping an incestual pairing.

For example, I can't bring myself to ship Phoenix/Maya from the Ace Attorney series, because their relationship seems to familial to me...but it doesn't to everyone. I don't care, or judge, other people who do ship it.

Granted, I'm not sure what fandom you're coming from, but if people are guilt-shaming you with interpretations that are different from your own...well, that's their problem, not yours.

(Anonymous) 2012-09-21 12:37 am (UTC)(link)
My OTP used to get smacked with this label quite a bit when my fandom was really active. "OMG THEY'RE LIKE BROTHER AND SISTER, EWWWW." I used to think it was because they wanted to shut my OTP down because it got in the way of another OTP.

I still think that.

So, you know, I agree with you to an extent.

(Anonymous) 2012-09-21 12:39 am (UTC)(link)
What about when the relationship between the characters is stated in canon to be a sibling-like/familial one and not romantic?

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(Anonymous) 2012-09-21 12:45 am (UTC)(link)
I think you had a point there but you're confusing as shit, so who cares. Work on making sure people can understand what the fuck you're saying before you try to convince them of something.

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[personal profile] streetcake 2012-09-21 12:52 am (UTC)(link)
People are allowed to interpret relationship dynamics differently. Though I do kinda know what you mean. I see plenty of instances where someone says they can't see why anyone would ship a certain pairing because they're obviously like sibling or a parent/child relationship. That is kinda annoying, especially when they say that about every ship they dislike. :\ You don 't have to imply incest and make the shippers seem creepy, geez, it's okay to just say you see them platonically.
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[personal profile] kyuusei 2012-09-21 01:06 am (UTC)(link)
Not sure why it bothers you how other people justify not shipping something that you do. Whether it's because they have a sibling or parent/child or whatever dynamic, who the hell cares? Some types of ships just aren't for everyone.

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(Anonymous) 2012-09-21 01:10 am (UTC)(link)
I'll admit, there are a couple of pairings that do give off certain vibes (i.e. sibling, parent, etc.), in a certain way, that renders ME, PERSONALLY, unable to ship them, but I only really say that if someone asks me whether I ship them or why I don't ship them. I never say it to make the person who does feel uncomfortable. They can ship it if they want. The pairing* itself makes ME uncomfortable, though.

*pairing in general, though a few come to mind.

(Anonymous) 2012-09-21 01:19 am (UTC)(link)
I thought that picture was an illustrations for Flowers in the Attic at first. Even though I knew Chris was older than Cathy.
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[identity profile] childings.livejournal.com 2012-09-21 01:24 am (UTC)(link)
Holy CRAP that picture haha
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[personal profile] la_petite_singe 2012-09-21 01:41 am (UTC)(link)
...It's funny because I just watched Sister My Sister like an hour ago.

(Anonymous) 2012-09-21 02:07 am (UTC)(link)
Sadly, using a comment like that to bash someone else is huge in my main fandom - and it's actually something that gets thrown a *lot* at my otp [granted my OTP seems to being a shit ton of hate lately anyways, so.]

Personally, I don't see why it'd be worth getting upset over if it's just 'I see them this way, so I don't ship it.' People can ship what they want, it's probably not going to have a big impact on my ship [outside of potential flame wars]. It's when they start using that logic to *bash* other ships/other people that I start getting upset, since that shit is almost always uncalled for.
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[personal profile] caecilia 2012-09-21 03:48 am (UTC)(link)
omg i'm sorry i'm just laughing really hard at the little comment about the picture

(Anonymous) 2012-09-21 04:16 am (UTC)(link)
I'm kinda shocked at all the people saying "they just see it differently!". Okay, that's nice, but it's a definite trend in fandom for people to throw around the "like siblings" label to shame people from shipping things. These same people often say things like "EW, you ship __ and __ ? They're like siblings, that's gross".

It's NOT just a matter of taste--that would be saying "i see them as platonic", or if they're in a real sibling-line relationship, they can say "i see them as siblings" for sure. But most of the time this is people being assholes.

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This secret summarized:

(Anonymous) 2012-09-21 05:13 am (UTC)(link)
BAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWW

HOW DARE YOU NOT SHIP THE EXACT SAME THINGS AS ME

HOW DARE YOU EVEN THINK THEY MIGHT HAVE A SIBLING-LIKE RELATIONSHIP

YOU'RE OUT TO SHAME ME FROM THIS SHIP

WE CAN'T DISCUSS SHIPS EVAR UNLESS YOU AGREE WITH ME 100%

I'M SO PERSECUTED

BAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWW

Re: This secret summarized:

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(Anonymous) 2012-09-21 04:31 pm (UTC)(link)
So, you're perfectly fine with someone taking two characters and seeing a romance there, but it bothers you when people see it only as a platonic or family-like relationship? Just because someone says, "Well, I don't see these two characters as being in a relationship, it just feel more like a a brother-sister relationship to me" doesn't mean they're trying to guilt trip you or say you like incest. You're going out of your way to be offended by other people who are doing the exact same thing you are: having an opinion.

PS: I have a wicked case of slash goggles. No, it doesn't bother me in the slightest of people don't think my ship is valid, or even if they think my ships are gross. You just need to lighten up and realize that you can't take everything everyone else says as personal.

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