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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2013-05-20 06:46 pm

[ SECRET POST #2330 ]


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[identity profile] galerian-ash.livejournal.com 2013-05-20 11:04 pm (UTC)(link)
Sorry to say it, but to me it sounds more like you're projecting.

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(Anonymous) 2013-05-20 11:05 pm (UTC)(link)
Trololololo

(Anonymous) 2013-05-20 11:07 pm (UTC)(link)
Yeah, right.

Mom of the year award for Gothel.

(Anonymous) 2013-05-20 11:09 pm (UTC)(link)
I thought it was pretty evident Gothel didn't love her at all. She loved the flower-power and the immortality and only saw Rapunzel as a (tiresome, chatty, annoyingly-mobile) vessel for the magic. She did and said whatever she thought would keep the power within her grasp, manipulating through both love and cruelty. But it was all solely to keep her own life.

/no reason to project, I love my mommy :b

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(Anonymous) 2013-05-20 11:09 pm (UTC)(link)
'In her own way' being not at all.
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[personal profile] greenvelvetcake 2013-05-20 11:09 pm (UTC)(link)
didn't love Rapunzel in her own way

I wouldn't say I LOVE my anti-wrinkle cream, but I've never held it captive for eighteen years, so I guess it evens out?

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[personal profile] intrigueing 2013-05-20 11:10 pm (UTC)(link)
I don't think many people are arguing that Gothel didn't love Rapunzel in her own way. But just because you love someone, doesn't mean you can't still be a horribly abusive parent towards them. And Gothel was damn abusive. She's not "not a saint", she is horrible.

Also, even if she's not exactly like their mother, her actions can still cause negative reactions in people who had mothers who weren't exactly like her, but who still did some very similar things.

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[personal profile] caecilia 2013-05-20 11:16 pm (UTC)(link)
okay but she's not her mother she is a KIDNAPPER

(Anonymous) 2013-05-20 11:20 pm (UTC)(link)
I just love that you use the picture where she's literally snuggling Rapunzel's hair as opposed to her.
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[personal profile] pazuzu 2013-05-20 11:23 pm (UTC)(link)
But she didn't love Rapunzel, she loved her hair. Also she's a Disney villain, she's not supposed to be sympathetic. Just evil.

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(Anonymous) 2013-05-20 11:23 pm (UTC)(link)
Sure she did. She loved Rapunzel for her hair.
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[personal profile] kallanda_lee 2013-05-20 11:23 pm (UTC)(link)
The thing is, you can love someone and still be in a very unhealthy relationship with them. It's not mutually exclusive.

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(Anonymous) 2013-05-20 11:29 pm (UTC)(link)
She isn't Rapunzel's mother. And she doesn't love her. She loves the hair and the power and the promise of eternal youth.

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(Anonymous) 2013-05-20 11:35 pm (UTC)(link)
Uhhhh most of them aren't projecting, I don't think. Pretty much everyone who's had something to say like that has said that Gothel did the same things that their mother did. Not an exaggerated version of those sorts of things. The same things.

(Anonymous) 2013-05-20 11:36 pm (UTC)(link)
So you don't like how people think and percieve a villain.

Next.

(Anonymous) 2013-05-20 11:41 pm (UTC)(link)
I don't have any mother issues (my mother is awesome and we have a great relationship) and I can see that Gothel didn't love Rapunzel except for her magic hair.
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[personal profile] writerserenyty 2013-05-20 11:46 pm (UTC)(link)
Back when there were a lot more Tangled secrets I specifically watched the movie to check for this (I love the movie, so it wasn't like I went out of my way). EVERY TIME Gothel says or does something indicating love or affection towards Rapunzel, it's directed towards the hair. She's either touching Rapunzel's hair or kind of stroking the hair, or something like that. I didn't see one instance of Gothel saying "I love you" on screen that didn't involve the hair in some way.

Gothel never loved Rapunzel. Gothel loved her hair.

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(Anonymous) 2013-05-20 11:52 pm (UTC)(link)
Except she...didn't love Rapunzel. She loved her hair. And she wasn't her mother. She was her kidnapper.

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(Anonymous) 2013-05-20 11:54 pm (UTC)(link)
Oh, the wank. The wank is delicious. Lol.

(Anonymous) 2013-05-21 12:16 am (UTC)(link)
She didn't love her, tho

(Anonymous) 2013-05-21 12:18 am (UTC)(link)
Yes, it all has to do with projecting. It has nothing to do with the fact that Gothel kidnapped Rapunzel as a child, forced her to live in seclusion by constantly lying to her, kept her around only because of her hair, and even bound and gagged her as a means of keeping her under control.

By the way, no mommy issues here. Maybe you're the one projecting?

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Sure, Gothel loved Rapunzel "in her own way". She loved her just like I love my Elizabeth Arden anti-aging creams. I love you little Lizzie Ardens! Love you, love you! Now stay in the medicine cabinet where I put you and stop complaining.

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[personal profile] kamino_neko 2013-05-21 12:33 am (UTC)(link)
I have no idea how you could watch Mother Knows Best and describe Gothel as 'no saint', rather than an evil, abusive creature, whose 'love' for Rapunzel was selfish and manipulative.
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[personal profile] gabzillaz 2013-05-21 01:06 am (UTC)(link)
She didn't love Rapunzel, she loved her hair.

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Alternatively...

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Re: Alternatively...

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