[ SECRET POST #2561 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #2561 ⌋

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[Breaking Bad]


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[The Hobbit]


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[Monster]


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[Hannibal]


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[Law and Order SVU]


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[GTA V]


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[Meitantei no Okite]


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Comments

[fscom]

03. http://i.imgur.com/g8iPKqh.jpg
[The Hobbit]

[fingalsanteater]

I agree. I've saw every LOTR movie in the theater on or around Christmas and was excited for the next one to come out. I didn't see Smaug in the theater and only care because my tradition was broken.

[(Anonymous)]

Eh, it's not that the CGI is somehow worse, it's just that since 2001 we've been glutted on so much CGI-heavy fares we're just not as readily awed by it anymore. This happened to me even as early back as The Two Towers. I distinctly recall not being nearly as amazed by anything in the trilogy as I had been by the Argonath in FotR.

[(Anonymous)]

i was unimpressed by the first hobbit and actively disliked DoS. part of it was because of the innumerable, painfully endless CGI sequences. part of it was because i felt like i'd seen everything it had to offer before, multiple times. part of it was because it just seems...stupid. and i'm bitter because it doesn't fit the tone of the book, for me.

plus, the Smaug's last lines made me actually burst out laughing in the theater. never a good sign.

[(Anonymous)]

I really despise the CG orcs, but I'm resigned to it. I just try to focus on the things I love about the movies, and then I can still be excited about them.

[(Anonymous)]

I agree, OP. I haven't been able to bring myself to go see DoS yet. I disliked the first Hobbit movie and its cartoonish look so much.

[elaminator]

I've seen plenty of Tolkien fans who don't like The Hobbit films (or don't care to see them), so 'everyone' def isn't excited.

I feel like the CGI is probably better instead of worse, but I agree there's too much of it. (Note: STILL haven't seen DOS.)

Secret 3 - The Hobbit (Peter Jackson trilogy of movies)

[transcriptanon]

[Picture is Bilbo Baggins, as portrayed by Martin Freeman, from the movie "The Hobbit: An Unexpected Journey". He is a Hobbit (human-like creature that is fairly short) with light skin, short wavy brown hair, wearing an old-fashioned earth-toned suit and running through a rural area with an unrolled scroll of parchment held in his hand.]

I just can't get excited about these movies. Compared to the Lord of The Rings trilogy the special effects look so fake and overloaded with bad CGI that it makes me want to cry. If I didn't know any better I'd swear they weren't even made by the same people.

Secret Because: Everyone else is too excited to care.

[(Anonymous)]

Agreed. Watching the first one in the Hobbit, I just saw some scenes and thought it looked like a huge wall of CGI.

[chardmonster]

The effects look worse because you're older now.

You can definitely complain about the thinner plot (THAT'S WHAT YOU GET FOR TRYING TO MAKE A SHORT CHILDREN'S BOOK SPAN THREE MOVIES) but the effects aren't at all worse.

[iggy]

I'm just not interested in seeing a three hundred page book stretched over about nine hours of film. It's ridiculous.

[(Anonymous)]

It's not just that there's more CGI, it's also that they used the accelerated frame rate for many of the CGI scenes, even on the normal frame rate, 2D releases. It's a huge step back and they had a chance to fix it for DoS but chose not to.

[(Anonymous)]

You know, I was watching one of the featurettes on Edoras and I realised that had LOTR been filmed today, Edoras would have been CGI with the cast filming the exterior scenes against a green screen. And after listening to everyone raving about the location - how beautiful it was, how being in this real place added to the cast's performance - that realisation stuck me as very sad.

[nan]

This is actually a pretty common opinion? I mean, I've seen loads of people talk about how the Hobbit movies are nowhere near as awesome as LotR. And I mean, I agree. I love the Hobbit movies but they're certainly not as good as the original trilogy.

[(Anonymous)]

Same. They look boring and cheap compared to LOTR movies and I have less than zero interest in watching them.

[lex_antonia]

The script was so terrible it didn't even occur to me to worry about CGI. And I quite liked the first film.

[(Anonymous)]

I could't get myself enthused, either. It was pretty when I watched it, but waaaaay too CG-heavy.

And honestly, it could've been made by different people. CG artists rarely stay at the same house as the years pass. I know the heads are basically the same, but the staff is probably different.

That, and it was painfully obvious they shot on digital and not film.

[(Anonymous)]

The CGI...

Good Lord, Smaug was so shitty. I don't know who fucking designed him, but I wanted to scream - he just looked so...bad.

I mean, what the hell was up with his face? And his wings with the hands at the elbows, ugh. His wings seemed too far up on his body to actually support his weight when he took flight, it was like they were at his shoulders if he were a person instead of his side.

As a dragon enthusiast, I could not get over his design. I mean, if someone has some good pictures of what he looks like in stills (since he was always in motion when you saw most of him) I might be willing to reconsider, but in motion he has such a sloppy and confusing design.

[(Anonymous)]

Having to act around so many CG scenes almost broke poor Ian McKellen so you're no alone.

[(Anonymous)]

Don't like it either.

[(Anonymous)]

Honestly I'm sick of all CGI-fests to begin with. CGI can do wonderful things but it works best when combined with actual physical objects: sets, scale models, makeup, animatronics, etc. Jurassic Park still holds up today because the CGI was used sparingly and animatronics were used as much as possible with the CGI saved for the big moments, so we get actual actors riding in actual cars and even the fake dinosaurs still seem to have weight and dimension. Now it seems like every movie that relies on CGI relies on it too heavily, using it for even small things that could have been done another way and it gives everything an unreal sheen. If you save the best CGI for important things it can work wonders -- the tiger in Life of Pi is magnificent, for example -- but when it's used for everything I think it becomes utterly fake-looking. Smaug on his own didn't bother me, Smaug chasing dwarves through CGI caves and getting covered in CGI gold did.

[(Anonymous)]

Thanks for giving me the opportunity to rant, anon. I saw it over the weekend and was SO BORED.

Six hours into this thing and the Dwarves are barely distinguishably except by boy-band characteristics (Kili is the Hot One, etc.); I have no idea what Thorin is about except wanting to be king, or why I should care; and Bilbo is practically non-existent. Tauriel/Kili has the charisma and romance of an egg salad sandwich, and Smaug was the most likable one of the bunch.

[(Anonymous)]

I'm really late to post this so nobody will read it probably, but Weta Workshop (who did the CGI) know some of it looks bad in The Desolation of Smaug.

My boyfriend knows quite a few people who work at Weta (New Zealand is a small country and he's in the Visual Effects industry) and the last few scenes in the battle with Smaug they were really pushed with time to finish.

Peter Jackson kept making last minute changes, and they know the scenes with the gold look like video game graphics.

I found all this really interesting, haha, and it is definitely noticeable. I do think that there's an overload of CGI in movies these days though.

I'm not a huge fan of CGI in live-action movies.

[(Anonymous)]

(I'm also not a fan in animated movies where the people hit Uncanny Valley territory, but that's another story.) I think CGI should be used sparingly, for transitioning, for the occasional background, and for things that literally cannot be done any other way. I mean, I liked the LOTR films, but I could tell when it was used in some of the scenes (especially in the caves) and Gollum never looked real to me. There are so many different things that look better on film - models, miniatures, forced perspective, puppets, animatronics, make-up and prosthetics, and sometimes even matte paintings for backgrounds.

(Also, puppet-Yoda is far superior to CGI-Yoda).

[(Anonymous)]

Didn't see the 2 movie, but slow mo in the first one was very funny and the fight scences were quite boring. However I liked the part with mountain giants and rain.