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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2014-02-12 06:40 pm

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(Anonymous) 2014-02-12 11:53 pm (UTC)(link)
inb4 butthurt a/b/o fans

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[personal profile] iggy 2014-02-12 11:54 pm (UTC)(link)
I don't think it's near as squicky as bestiality or scat, but yeah I'm... not a fan and don't really understand the appeal.

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(Anonymous) 2014-02-12 11:57 pm (UTC)(link)
I, too, find it awfully squicky. I don't begrudge people having it, but I am looking forward to the day it's replaced by something else so it isn't everywhere.
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[personal profile] klutzygirl 2014-02-13 12:01 am (UTC)(link)
But how do you feel about Teen Wolf fic?

(Anonymous) 2014-02-13 12:02 am (UTC)(link)
I get why it's popular. I mean, it's basically a combination of every fangirl's wet dream mashed in some eldritch abomination.

Doesn't make it less gross.

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(Anonymous) 2014-02-13 12:02 am (UTC)(link)
It's pretty ridiculous and dumb. But it also often happens to include a lot of things that I am definitely interested, so that's the way it goes. I'm willing to pay the price of avoiding the dumbness.

(Anonymous) 2014-02-13 12:04 am (UTC)(link)
scat would be an improvement imo

(Anonymous) 2014-02-13 12:05 am (UTC)(link)
its so BORING! And its everywhere in all sorts of fandoms. I don't get the appeal! But eh people havin fun I guess.

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[personal profile] kallanda_lee 2014-02-13 12:06 am (UTC)(link)
Having been in fandom for a long time, I can see how this would become popular. Though, I too hope it will dwindle in popularity.
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[personal profile] iceyred 2014-02-13 12:06 am (UTC)(link)
I can't say it's my favorite thing ever, but in my fandoms it always seems to be pretty well marked and tagged so it's pretty easy to ignore.

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(Anonymous) 2014-02-13 12:07 am (UTC)(link)
There are so many different KINDS of A/B/O that saying all of it is gross is like saying all BDSM fics are gross. It all depends on how it's set, how it's presented, what pieces of the myriad different parts that make up A/B/O (or BDSM) are included and in what way

There's plenty of BDSM fic that's obviously badly written 14 year old fap fantasies and then there are the few and far between that really explore that kind of thing and mental/emotional reactions seriously. Same with A/B/O. Or any fic in general really

/shrug

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(Anonymous) 2014-02-13 12:07 am (UTC)(link)
I think it's a fascinating expression of the interesting relationship slash fandom has to men and masculinity. Slash fans, it's fair to say, are fascinated by men, and much of the history of slash fandom is about reinterpreting, queering, and reimagining various forms of masculinity to serve that fascination.

There's one really toxic model of masculinity that's very much subscribed to by a lot of MRAs, pickup artists, and their ilk: the notion of alpha males and beta males and so on, with all the competition and sneering and resentment that comes with that kind of ugly caste system. Like, they honest-to-god think that's how the real world works.

So A/B/O fic, as I see it, is just slash fandom hijacking that particular bus and driving it straight to Crazytown. And I mean that in the best way. :)

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AYRT

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(Anonymous) 2014-02-13 12:08 am (UTC)(link)
I like A/O a bunch but hate that wolfpack shit. Teen Wolf scripts and cameras need to die in a fire.

(Anonymous) 2014-02-13 12:09 am (UTC)(link)
No trope is going to be everybody's cup of tea. I really hate high school AUs, for instance. And they've been around a lot longer than A/B/O, with no sign of going away anytime soon. One of the things you (rhetorical-you) have to learn about the internet is, people are going to like things that you don't like. That's the way it goes.

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(Anonymous) 2014-02-13 12:09 am (UTC)(link)
There are SO MANY tropes I feel this way about. So many. At this point I just roll my eyes at new ones like the a/b/o verse stuff and scroll on by.
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[personal profile] kaijinscendre 2014-02-13 12:10 am (UTC)(link)
Different stokes, for different folks.

I love abo personally.
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[personal profile] badass_tiger 2014-02-13 12:10 am (UTC)(link)
I think you can see how this opinion is not an unpopular one, OP. I do think the rape implications and all really squicky but I've seen stalker fics presented as romantic and sweet so it doesn't really bother me overall.

(Anonymous) 2014-02-13 12:11 am (UTC)(link)
I like how it gets so many people in a tizzy, such as yourself.
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[personal profile] rubbertea 2014-02-13 12:19 am (UTC)(link)
Poor scat; being put on the same level as bestiality and a/b/o can't be good for your reputation

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(Anonymous) 2014-02-13 12:20 am (UTC)(link)
I don't understand it, either, and I've liked fiction in the past with werewolf/human sex. I'm hoping that this is yet another fandom fad and it'll move on once everyone gets tired of it.

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It's popular because it's a trope mashup.

For me personally, I read it sometimes because the idea of heats reads like society-justified sex pollen, and I kind of like sex pollen. I also like the idea of otherwise masculine characters having similar biological whims as us ovary-possessing ladies. I just find it interesting and kind of fun? Possibly fulfills a hurt/comfort kink for other people, judging by some of the stuff I've read.

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[personal profile] feotakahari 2014-02-13 12:33 am (UTC)(link)
I have issues with power imbalance ships, and I REALLY have issues with the separation of characters into inherently subordinate and superior races. Combine them, and I'm seriously squicked out.

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[personal profile] shahrizai 2014-02-13 12:42 am (UTC)(link)
I wish there was more het A/B/O. Shitty paranormal romance novels just aren't the same since they aren't the characters I know and love!

(okay maybe I just need a place to slot in Sif as HBIC alpha female wolf. Or Riza Hawkeye.)
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[personal profile] forgottenjester 2014-02-13 12:45 am (UTC)(link)
Soooo... treat it like those other kinks you mentioned? Ignore it.

If it personally squicks you that's fine. You don't have to like it at all in any way. Really, I promise.

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Re: ABO is mostly missed potential

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Re: ABO is mostly missed potential

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I have no idea what this is supposed to mean.

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