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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2014-06-04 06:48 pm

[ SECRET POST #2710 ]


⌈ Secret Post #2710 ⌋

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Secrets Left to Post: 02 pages, 029 secrets from Secret Submission Post #387.
Secrets Not Posted: [ 0 - broken links ], [ 0 - not!secrets ], [ 0 - not!fandom ], [ 0 - too big ], [ 0 - repeat ].
Current Secret Submissions Post: here.
Suggestions, comments, and concerns should go here.

(Anonymous) 2014-06-04 11:04 pm (UTC)(link)
Yooooooooou... need to take a chill pill.

The best time I ever had in fandom was the 1-2 years I spent in a very small but very tight-knit circle of fans shipping a rare pairing. At any given time there were probably around 5-10 people contributing regularly. I never felt more creative, and never felt the need to proselytize on fandom streets.

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*side-eyes you*

(Anonymous) 2014-06-04 11:08 pm (UTC)(link)
LOTS

(Anonymous) 2014-06-04 11:10 pm (UTC)(link)
There are a lot of very hard to read words in this secret. I think I probably disagree, but I don't hate my eyes enough to read the entire thing to tell for sure.

(Anonymous) 2014-06-04 11:10 pm (UTC)(link)
I feel like this came straight out of the depths of tumblr.
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[personal profile] rubbertea 2014-06-04 11:11 pm (UTC)(link)
oh my god, i never thought i'd ever say this in a non sarcastic manner, but seriously, go outside.
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[personal profile] feotakahari 2014-06-04 11:17 pm (UTC)(link)
The idea that A/B competes with B/C assume that you can't ship A/B, B/C, and A/C at the same time. (As I see it, each exists in its own universe, and since they're not real people, each pairing is equally "real.")

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[personal profile] solticisekf 2014-06-04 11:19 pm (UTC)(link)
So which Star Trek it is?

On topic, well, it's great that you're active in fandom, OP. Imho it's possible to ignore fans you don't like even in a small fandom.

upd. Sometimes a handful can make a pairing popular. Not one person, I don't think, but two or three can. So as long as you enjoy what you're doing, op, why not? It's somewhat productive.
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(I think you might want to step away from fandom for a while, because while being passionate about fandom is perfectly fine, your anger doesn't sound healthy. Not even joking, if fandom is this toxic for you...then maybe you should take a break, see if you feel better.)

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[personal profile] omens 2014-06-04 11:27 pm (UTC)(link)
Deep breath, dude.

[personal profile] ex_mek82 2014-06-04 11:28 pm (UTC)(link)
I'm just gonna be right up blunt honest with you, OP: If it's this upsetting/distressing to you, get out of the fandom before you get even sucked down the black hole of negativity further than you are already. Otherwise, you'll really come to regret not putting a considerable berth between you and the fandom. Trust me, I've been there.

(Anonymous) 2014-06-04 11:36 pm (UTC)(link)
Wow, this is taking fandom a little seriously? And that is saying something coming from me.

Who cares about popularity, really? What matters is how much fun you're having. Fandom is a hobby (or should be!) I mean, sure, it's AWESOME to have tons of awesome fic and art, but the biggest fandoms can be some of the ugliest too. I'd personally contribute in a fandom I feel comfortable in than one with lots of fic and art but is an awful experience (e.g. when I watched SPN I loved reading the fic, watching the fanvids etc. but was petrified to participate in the fandom actively). If you can get both, AWESOME. Popularity may be validation, but it doesn't make a fandom 'better'. Popularity is NOT quality.

(Anonymous) 2014-06-04 11:41 pm (UTC)(link)
This kind of sounds like an alternate universe PUA manifesto. Except with less misogyny, and instead of reproductive success it's about... "better fans" and number of fanworks?
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[personal profile] quantumreality 2014-06-04 11:43 pm (UTC)(link)
OP:

Wat.

Just .... wow. O_o
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[personal profile] fingalsanteater 2014-06-04 11:47 pm (UTC)(link)
Jfc, dude. You are taking fandom WAY to seriously.

And, what the fuck are you on about anyway? The Star Trek fandom is fucking huge and varied. There are plenty of people to discuss things with that aren't "fangirls." I used to discuss DS9 on the AV Club. I used to be an active member of a Facebook group made up of a lot of different types of fans, most of them older.

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[personal profile] iceyred 2014-06-04 11:51 pm (UTC)(link)
LOL at you. "This is a fucking war."

No hon. It isn't. Time to turn off the interwebs and interact with real people now, mmmkay?
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[personal profile] cushlamochree 2014-06-04 11:58 pm (UTC)(link)
Just like your shit.

Jesus.

(Anonymous) 2014-06-05 12:06 am (UTC)(link)
You sound like a girl in the Game of Thrones fandom. I'm honestly surprised that you're not her. She too claims that fandom is war and overvalues who is popular. I think the two of you need to get together and attend some therapy sessions.

(Anonymous) 2014-06-05 12:17 am (UTC)(link)
I have honestly never experienced fandom this way. Not even back in the good ole bad ole days in HP fandom in the Pit of Voles when I was a Snape/Sirius fan (this would have been between PoA and OotP). I have honestly and truly never been in a ship war, despite having shipped pairs that were apparently involved in them. Or better to say, maybe, that I've never noticed being in a ship war.

I don't think I've the personality for it, maybe? I multiship like bedamned, which probably helps. Most of my interaction with fandom is by writing, and generally I just write whatever I'm in the mood for or sometimes what I'm prompted into writing, and sort of ... the rest be damned?

I've written rare pairs to controversial pairs to non-existant pairs to middling popular pairs to (once in a blue moon) actual mega pairs, depending on the canon and the fandom and the mood I'm in on the day. I've written several things where I've gotten people to say they'd never imagined such a pairing before but now that they'd read it it made sense, and I've written pairs where people have told me that it was sick, twisted and wrong and why was that so hot all of a sudden, and I've written pairs where people went "Hahahaha, are you nuts?" (for the record, probably yes). A couple of times I've gotten in on the ground floor for what later boomed into a megaship, and rather more of the time I've been sitting there with my few fics and maybe three other people's fics wondering why no-one saw that incredible canon scene the way I had (incidentally, still waiting on the bunch of ST:TOS McCoy/Khan fics based on the scalpel scene in Space Seed, what's wrong with y'all, get on that people).

Judging by this secret, I think maybe this way of doing fandom, while occasionally more disappointing, may also be more relaxing.

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(Anonymous) 2014-06-05 12:17 am (UTC)(link)
I don't really understand this secret.

But. I'll take all the McKirk recs thrown at me. I love it more than Spork or what ever Spock/Kirk is shipped as.

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[personal profile] riddian 2014-06-05 12:21 am (UTC)(link)
No. Love is fandom's lifeblood. Even if you are the only person writing fics for some obscure thing nobody else has even heard of, as long as you are making things and thinking about it and enjoying yourself that fandom is alive. (If more than a little lonely, I grant you.) I don't need anyone else to "validate" my ships. Nobody else can tell me that the things I like are right or wrong. They don't need to be relevant, whatever the hell that means. They just need to be things I enjoy.

You are indeed desperate in an ugly way, and it is because you have exactly the wrong attitude. There is no competition. There is no war but the one inside your head, and you should probably stop fighting it. It sucks when nobody else likes the stuff you like, but you're gonna have to just deal with it.

Also, stop using the word "literally" wrong.

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(Anonymous) 2014-06-05 12:26 am (UTC)(link)
Wow.

Just get a fucking life already. Turn off the computer, turn off your cell phone and go spend a few days outside. With real people. In the real world.
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[personal profile] diet_poison 2014-06-05 12:27 am (UTC)(link)
This is both really cynical and really juvenile. :(

[personal profile] cbrachyrhynchos 2014-06-05 12:47 am (UTC)(link)
It's not about the shipping.

Fandom's lifeblood is fans.

(Anonymous) 2014-06-05 12:55 am (UTC)(link)
It's right there in the word. As long as there are fans, there is a fandom. And it doesn't really matter why they are fans (for the ships, for the characters, for the dynamics, for the stories, for the art, for the design, for the costumes, for whatever). It is not a competition and it is definitely not a war. It's entertainment.

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