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⌈ Secret Post #2768 ⌋

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[Eliza Dushku and Michelle Rodriguez]

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07. [SPOILERS for Hannibal]

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08. [SPOILERS for The Day the Laughter Stopped]
[WARNING for rape]

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[Shaman King]

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Staying late at work, day the 3rd. Sorry again.

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What are your thoughts on it, do you like it or not, what kinds of hurt and comfort do you like to see the most (and what kinds do you dislike), and who are your favorite characters to whump?

All sorts of things. It needs to be characters I like -- but not too much. Characters I actually identify with, I don't like seeing hurt.

I love it as long as there is a happy ending. Hurt them as much and however you want as long D the comfort is there.

This. I can get with a tortured character so long as things work out.

On the other hand, I'm watching Angel right now and there are no happy endings for anyone. DAMN YOU JOSS!

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(Anonymous) - 2014-08-06 09:43 (UTC) - Expand

Wish I'd seen this before I commented on the secret (then again who cares, probably no one).

I don't like it at all. It comes across as very contrived and melodramatic to me, and it also usually seems OOC.

"It"?

It's really not a monolith. H/c stories can be wildly different. And how can it be OOC if it happens in canon as well?

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I kind of agree. I usually see it as a reason to draw angst and then make everything all better. It's just... What's the point?

I get where you're coming from, if others don't.

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I think it depends on the fandom, the characters and the writer. There are some fandoms and character where h/c can be done very easily, there are some where it can been done by a skilled writer and there are some where it is almost impossible to keep the characters in character.

When I was young and angsty I digged the whole package of hurt - torture and a poor bloody character struggling on... The character probably falls unconscious at some point.

Now physical hurt seems boring. Nowadays I like subtle emotional angst, like some tragic piece of hero's past is discovered by chance, something canon compliant.

I have a soft spot for angsty messed up inner dialogue in contrast to a character's normal-ish behavior. I don't see it enough in fics.

btw, I prefer my fave character doing the suffering.

Who's your favorite character?

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(Anonymous) - 2014-08-01 23:27 (UTC) - Expand

Meh, I like h/c sometimes but usually I prefer just hurt, no comfort. Brutal torture with no fix-it and no happy ending, please. I enjoy both the physical side and the mental/psychological side. I usually enjoy hurting all my favorite characters the most. Bonus points if they cry a lot in canon or seem like they'd be really pretty crying.

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- I like it

- I prefer to see relatively little hurt and relatively high amounts of comfort. I don't know, it just seems like the hurt is already there, especially in your more angsty fandoms. I feel like I can almost take it for granted.

- I have a preference for emotional H/C over physical but I can also do physical stuff. Just... lots and lots of comfort. The only thing that I really dislike is when it's something that's just lots and lots of hurt and no comfort. Don't really care that much about characters as long as its someone I basically like.

I've never read any that was actually good (I'm sure it's out there, it's just been eluding me and I'm picky about writing style) and I know if I write some of my own it'll be ridiculously stupid. I really like to work out the scenarios in my mind, though, but then I never commit them to paper or share them with the internet.

For me it depends on how it's written/the specific circumstance.

I like them innocent and about emotions.
I LOVE them if it's emotional H/C. (Loss or accident of a loved one or pet, comforting over unrequited love, comforting over a friend's betrayal, etc)
I like them when it's temporary and minor injuries... broken leg/sprained ankle. Got into a fight, got a black eye and the other person gives them ice, etc. But that still is more emotional for me. How the characters interact with each other and how the comfort person will help (especially if it's unexpected for them).

I don't like it when it's sexual, or sexualized, or anything to do with sex at all. (which means I don't find much to read lol)
I don't like chronic diseases or illnesses, especially terminal illnesses. Get that away from me. Seriously, seriously, seriously. It makes me soooooo uncomfortable and kind of causes anxiety.
I don't like crippling accidents, where they are handicapped and need someone to help them 24/7. Not saying I won't read handicapped characters, but I don't want their pairing to be the one helping them all the time. Like (C1/C2, C2 is C1's personal caregiver) nooo, squick. Same with illnesses for that one though. I'd rather it be a family member or doctor be their personal caregiver and C2 is just a friend (or rival, enemy, whatever) who cares and visits and talks to them.

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(Anonymous) - 2014-08-01 23:41 (UTC) - Expand

In theory I like it a lot, but I don't like cheesiness, and most hurt/comfort is horribly cheesy. If done correctly, I'm pretty predictable in what I like - I like it in m/m slash, with the one enduring the abuse being who I "identify" with. Scarequotes for a reason, because it's not actual identification, but the one I emotionally latch onto. I don't like it in m/f or f/f. Occasionally I like non-sexual h/c, usually with family dynamics.

I like it, but really only emotional hurt, and less "dead loved one" and more "mortal danger," "I fucked up" angst, " or "I'm keeping a horrible secret or a did a horrible thing that is causing me emotional turmoil." I like emotional intimacy and cuddling (especially face touching) kind of comfort. Stuff like that.

I do have favorite characters I like to see whumped. Loki, Tony Stark, Londo, Harry Potter, Draco Malfoy, Snape, Morgan Martin, Starsky, Hutch... probably a bunch more I can't think of right now.

I love it a bit too much, and I like a whole range of it as long as it's well-written. Emotional, phychical hurt - it's all good.

It's a bit complex for me, because it's usually the character I crush on more I like to see hurt/comforted - but, having a crush on does not exclude relating to. I think I also have this weird thing about crushing on characters I relate to on some level.

As for fav characters for it - see icon (currently)

I hate "sickfic" (unless it's like, a deadly ebola virus type of thing, not something lame like the flu). I hate disability fic. I hate most "long emotional healing process" fics, with a few exceptions for really interesting premises.

I don't like accident fics, wilderness survival, etc.

I LOVE violent hurt, especially with a character being intentionally targeted by a bad guy or hurt in the line of duty/in a heroic fashion/etc.

I like comfort to be more of the "make it suck a little less" or "hold him and stay with him while he suffers" type of comfort rather than the "make it all better" type of comfort. I don't need to see the character completely heal, just a promise that s/he will get better and the comforting character will stick by them is enough.

I have a HUGE fondness for hurt/comfort where the hurt character really should be taken care of better/go to a therapist, but due to outside circumstances (really pressing need to keep working on a problem, social stigma, need to keep it a secret, doesn't have the time or luxury or money to do it), they can't get professional help and have to rely on their friend's comfort instead.

I love emotional h/c, although preferably stuff that isn't just rehashing issues that were already resolved in canon. Unresolved problems are the best.

I don't mind AT ALL if it's cheesy, melodramatic, stupid, nonsensical, or really crappily written, as long as it's in-character and the emotions are genuine and heartfelt (it's very easy to tell when they're not.)

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My favorite fanfic author does a fascinating thing with Bayverse Optimus Prime. He is that guy who has to be strong all the time, till he's crumbling. She writes him crumbling only around Mikaela. He doesn't let his men see that. He tells her all his doubts, his fears, his frustrations, and she just listens and stays near him. It's so beautiful.

Then she saw AOE and reversed them when Mikaela is able to see Optimus again after he vanished for four years. Mikaela completely comes apart and he just holds her.

I marvel at the author of those stories. I really do. She has been at that series since 2008.

Re: I posted the Optimus Prime / Mikaela Banes secret a while back...

slr2moons - 2014-08-02 03:16 (UTC) - Expand

Nearly everything I write has some sort of element of H/C in it, from psychological anguish to physical to emotional. I do try to provide a hopeful, if not happy ending.

I like to read it, too, but don't subscribe to the 'healing cock' theory, so it's hard for me to find many stories H/C stories I enjoy reading.

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I'm not a big fan of it. It's too much needless drama for me.

I especially hate the kind that involves sex that magically 'solves' everything. (aka Healing Buttsex.)

I like H/C if the comfort part is well defined and adequately comforting. I like H/C revolving around physical injury or difficult experiences or life-threatening events, but I really dislike sexual H/C where the hurt part is rape or sexual violence or sexual threats. I also prefer my H/C to be gen friendship or ship with no sex (kissing is cool but I don't want them to get busy). Favorite characters to whump are John Sheppard (emotionally whumped) and Rodney McKay (physically whumped).

Yes. I like it. My type of hurt/comfort is where the hurt is severe (torture, brainwashing, rape, whatever) and the resulting physical and/or psychological consequences are realistic. Where there is comfort and a basically happy ending, but it takes work and the hurt doesn't just magically go away.

I love it but am also really, really picky about it - I like it to be realistic, I'd prefer for it to have an... if not happy, at least optimistic ending, and if it's a severe trauma, then I definitely want a long recovery period with a lot of support from the other character and not, "They cuddled and then it was better!". Expanding on that, I STRONGLY dislike the ~magical healing cock~ trope, especially if the trauma is rape (although that gets a pass if it's realistically handled - ie., it doesn't automatically make things better - or is about the character who was assaulted working out being comfortable with sex again on their own terms).

Basically, short version, I love it so long as it's realistic and not an automatic quick fix.

Character-wise, no real preference, although I have a hard time seeing female characters going through awful shit.

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If the characters are suited to it, i.e. levelheaded enough, I like it. That's my main requirement, given I don't read much H/C. I don't mind a sexual element depending on the pairing, but they have to be Fire-Forged Friends for it to really hit home for me.

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