[ SECRET POST #2867 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #2867 ⌋

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Comments

[fscom]

07. http://i.imgur.com/Tly8zaF.png

[(Anonymous)]

A-FUCKING-MEN

[(Anonymous)]

... Have people who call Harry privileged read the books, or just summaries?

The kid grew up in a cupboard under the stairs. He's lost almost every single parent and parental figure in his life, except Molly Weasley. Even Arthur doesn't seem to have the same surrogate father feelings towards Harry that Molly does (though of course Arthur does love him, just not the same protective way). When Harry wins money from the tournament, he gives it all away to the twins.

What a privileged jock indeed.

[(Anonymous)]

Well, he's privileged by definition, being a straight white male with magic powers. But it seems like you're using the popular-wrong definition, meaning "This person has had a hella easy life so it's okay to hate them." I don't blame you for using that definition; it's dismayingly popular, especially in the endless one-upmanship games of fandom.

[visp]

It's Harry Potter. There's crazy theories about everything. Personally, I'm just pleased it's still an active fandom. Ah, nostalgia...

[philstar22]

I agree with this so much. I will say that Harry acted a bit like the "big man on campus" in book 6. But everyone was acting that way in book 6, so I don't think that is indicative of his character most of the time.

[siofrabunnies]

Bullying was such a huge problem throughout the story. Griffindors/Slytherins bullied each other due to a tense house rivalry, Hufflepuffs bullied Harry for stealing Cedric's thunder during the Triwizard Tournament, people bullied Luna for being, well, Luna.

I did get a sense of Griffindor favoritism from quite a lot of people. And the Griffindors bullied Harry for getting even more (perceived) favoritism from Dumbledore.

God, I'm glad I don't spend my days surrounded by teenagers anymore.

[(Anonymous)]

*Gryffindor

[(Anonymous)]

Having actually been bullied, I can assure you that 90% of what you're talking about from the books is not "bullying".

[(Anonymous)]

Do English schools have jocks? I mean it is not very common around (Holland) here but we don't have any boarding schools.

[(Anonymous)]

No it's an American term, I assume that this is an American fan,

[(Anonymous)]

School sports stars are usually popular, but we don't call them jocks. In boarding schools it also tends to be about money and who your parents are.

[(Anonymous)]

It was worse, they were playing the poor little rich boy trope. I hate that trope.

[dreemyweird]

+1000. I nope out of any work/fandom that perpetuates it.

[dreemyweird]

Co-signed. I'm not a big fan of Rowling's characterization skills, but this is such an obvious point that I do have to wonder if those arguing against it have any reading comprehension.

[(Anonymous)]

I would have bullied the Slytherins so fucking hard

(and then got detention for a million years from Snape and gotten fucked over by them because they're a bunch of rich bullies who are completely capable of looking out for themselves, not a bunch of forlorn woobies, but w/e)

[a_potato]

Yes! A million times, yes. The notion that he's "privileged" (and therefore has no reason to be upset about X, Y, or Z) has bothered me for years. He's privileged, perhaps, in the sense that he has powerful people trying to protect him, but on nearly every other measure, he's anything but. Kid had a shitty life and spent most of it on the bottom rung.

[(Anonymous)]

Wow, Elijah Wood is really cute in this picture.

[intrigueing]

This is one of those things where you have to remember that fans who think this are not misinterpreting the story or making a mistake that they can be convinced to correct or anything stupid-but-logical like that. This is just a case of the fans deciding that they want Harry to be a privileged jock and they want the Slytherins to be bullied woobies. What is actually shown in the books has absolutely no bearing on anything -- the canon is just a vessel/framework for the totally unrelated original story they want to hold in their minds.

[(Anonymous)]

This secret makes me really happy. Thank you. I totally agree and it's a relief to see that some people who read HP actually READ HP.

[i_paint_the_sky]

While I still take issue with how Slytherin was protrayed in such broad strokes ... Harry is so the exact opposite of priveledged.

This is especially dumb if we're talking about the Gryffindor vs Slytherin thing here, because Draco Malfoy is pretty much the definition of priveledged. Heck, he even gets a bit of the "jock" mentality when he becomes Slytherin's Seeker, though ultimately I wouldn't consider him popular beyond his own house.

Actually, the only "popular" student character I can think of in the books would probably be Cedric Diggory. Apparently popularity is the kiss of death.

[(Anonymous)]

I'm still forever pissed at how Dumbledore would show such blatant favortism, which isn't Harry's fault, but yeah, no. There was a fuck ton of bullying all around in the school. The pins and stuff by Hufflepuff, the stuff lobbed at Harry during book 2.

I think Hogwarts just had a problem with bullies, period, and the massive rivalry fostered between Houses doesn't help.

[(Anonymous)]

A Slytherfen conversation recently broke out on a discussion list I'm on, and the cries of "people don't like Malfoy et al because they're RACIST against SLYTHERINS" finally broke me. I found myself replying, "no, it's because the Slytherins we meet in the story are rotten little arseholes, and they were carefully raised that way by their parents, who are rotten big arseholes."

I mean, this is not hard stuff. I'm perfectly willing to agree that Slytherin qualities can be turned toward good, but at that point in history...they weren't. There are a few awful characters in the Harry Potter stories. Harry isn't one of them.

[iggy]

Everything here is true, and I'm relieved that people are agreeing with you, OP!

[(Anonymous)]

Huh, never seen people call Harry that, guess I'm avoiding the right people because that's completely ridiculous.

I will say though, that I like people picking apart the world like that. It doesn't make sense to bring Harry into it, but that kind of analysis is fun.