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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2016-03-13 04:15 pm

[ SECRET POST #3357 ]


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Inspired by #15

(Anonymous) 2016-03-13 09:02 pm (UTC)(link)
What adaptations have either completely missed the point or completely fucked up a character? Who was it and what did they get wrong?

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Star Trek 2009 missed the point on virtually every single character and the entire thrust of the Star Trek ethos.

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[personal profile] philstar22 2016-03-13 09:18 pm (UTC)(link)
I agree. Which is sad because I still like the first movie. But I have to think of it as a completely separate thing because everything is so different. It is not the same characters or the same universe at all. Even accounting for the timeline changes they are still too different to be the same people.

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09 was good on the characters IMO

STID was not

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(Anonymous) 2016-03-13 09:25 pm (UTC)(link)
Yep. It's an old tune by now, but I'm stilling subscribing to your channel.
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[personal profile] ketita 2016-03-13 10:51 pm (UTC)(link)
This all the way. Yeah, it was a reasonably fun movie, but ultimately incredibly disappointing and such a waste of what Star Trek could have been.

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That was my first immediate response as well, so I definitely agree. I hope the new tv show can fix it somehow.
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[personal profile] philstar22 2016-03-13 09:09 pm (UTC)(link)
The Hobbit got everyone wrong except Bilbo and Gandalf and Galadriel and Elrond and Smaug. Everything else was bad.

The Wizard of Oz got the point wrong. Making it all a dream was stupid. Also, Dorothy was really wrong. I know, blasphemy. But in the books Dorothy is take charge and strong willed, yet in the movie she comes off as kind of weak.

Legend of the Seeker changed the characters a lot. To the better, though, for the most part. The one character they got wrong, I think, was Zed. They focused on the funny bits and ignored the rest of his personality.
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[personal profile] shortysc22 2016-03-13 09:12 pm (UTC)(link)
Re: The Wizard of Oz. The movie and book verse are sooooo different. I've found a few adaptations to be really good (the cartoon TV series of the 80s that aired on HBO and then there was another 2 hour movie that aired on TV in the early 90s) but now the movie stands as a classic. I don't care for Wicked because it completely ignores all of the book sequels.

Your take on Oz the Great and Powerful?

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The live action Death Note movies.

First, they totally missed the point of L. They went for the kawaii weirdo with a gentle heart route. L is weird and fascinating, but he is brutal and absolutely aware of how he interacts with others - he does it to see how they will react. The movie!L was an atrocity.

And then, Light. They gave him a for-real girlfriend. boo. Setting aside my Light-is-gay head!canon, I think Light's pre-Death Note self is really telling, because it doesn't show him happy and well-adapted, instead he seems isolated and depressed and bored. I think Light's emotional state pre-Death Note was precisely what made him vulnerable to using it in the first place.

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Pride and Prejudice 2005, on so many levels.

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Transformers Prime. It was okay, a mostly new and decent take on the old toy selling franchise. It was okay right up til the episode where Optimus "Robot Jesus" Prime threatened a captive with torture to obtain information. Then all bets were off. You have to be IDW to get away with that sort of thing.

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John Carpenter's Vampires based on the book by John Steakley.

The movie LITERALLY killed off every main character except one in the first ten minutes, therefore the rest of the film had NOTHING to do with the book at all.

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Battlestar Galactica reboot totally fucked up the sense of unconquerable hope from the original. The idea that you can lose everything, but still find the spark inside of you to keep moving forward without being consumed with bitterness and hate, that you will always have hope in the face of insurmountable odds, and that no matter how desperate the situation there is always room for feeling good. I think it was a message that was even more vital in the wake of 9/11 instead of the lets all give into despair and brutality that we got peddled instead.

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The Golden Compass tried too hard to minimize the Church being the bad guy.

The Mists of Avalon adaptation had some weird changes as well. For pacing, I guess, but still.

The Giver wasn't all that bad, but I felt like making the characters older and adding a love story took it in a different direction.

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Man. Of. FUCKING. Steel.

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X-Men 2. Nightcrawler. Augh!!
Also, Ultimate X-men. Nightcrawler again. Double Augh!!!

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Game of Thrones in so many levels, but especially Sandor, Margaery and Loras. They are completely different characters.

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The U.S. version of Life on Mars.

To start off, they miscast the two leads. Sam is supposed to be a normal looking guy (not an action hero) and Gene is supposed to be a larger, physically intimidating guy.

The first episode echoes the British version's pilot without any feeling or understanding.

The finale is stupid. Really, really stupid. And literal, but mostly stupid.

If you are interested in a better adaptation, check out Spain's.

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Old grudge, but I've never forgiven Les Miserables 1998 (the one with Geoffrey Rush as Javert) for that last scene. In no universe does Jean Valjean watch Javert commit suicide right in front of him and not only not doing anything about it, but run away beaming his face off afterwards. Did they miss literally every other choice Valjean has made since the Bishop or what? Yes, of course he'll be ecstatic about a man not only dying but committing a mortal sin for his sake while he stands there and does bugger all. Absolutely.

(This is probably one of the lesser sins an adaptation of Les Miserables has made over the years, I'm aware of this, it just ... really bugged me).

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Silent Hill movies.

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The 2004 Lloyd-Webber Phantom of the Opera. No, he didn't grow up at the Opera. He helped build the damn place. Also, he could sing; he wasn't a pack-a-day smoking Scottsman. Also also, he was ugly. Christine wasn't a sixteen year-old with a tiny popera voice. And did Raoul treat Christine to a lovely meal of roasted carriage horse, since they set the movie during the one year when Paris was under seige and everyone was starving? (And ffs, someone cut Raoul's hair.)

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Arrow completely butchered Oliver Queen. The only character even remotely similar to their comic book counterpart in that show is Dinah Laurel Lance/Black Canary. That show is just...a shocking failure. I don't even know how to properly describe how bad it is because it is just that bad. It's not even about Green Arrow anymore.

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Alfonso Cuaron's A Little Princess

(Anonymous) 2016-03-14 02:25 am (UTC)(link)
left no aspect of Sara's character and no major plot point unfucked. Sara did not pretend she was a princess to bolster her self-esteem; she pretended she was a princess to remind herself to behave like one--with courage, magnanimity, fairness and courtesy. She would not have pretended to put an "Indian" curse on Lavinia (that was a big wtf). She would not have encouraged Miss Amelia to run away with the milkman. The whole end of the movie, with her scrambling across the alley on a plank in the rain just ahead of the police, was so ridiculous I couldn't care whether she fell three stories and broke her neck or not. And Captain Crewe needed to be and stay dead.

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The movie of Sphere. I felt it lost the point be making the main character enter the sphere earlier and being truly to blame for some of the weird shit happening, because in the book it felt like when he did enter and get the reality altering powers, he knew how to (barely) control them because he was a psychologist.

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