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fandomsecrets2018-12-25 06:34 pm
[ SECRET POST #4374 ]
⌈ Secret Post #4374 ⌋
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[Disney/Doctor Who crossover]
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[Avatar: The Last Airbender]
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(Markiplier and his friend Wade)
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[Dumplin' on Netflix]
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[Daredevil]
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[Criminal Minds S03E13 "Limelight"]
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(Anonymous) 2018-12-26 02:47 am (UTC)(link)Not the Yuletide anon from a few weeks ago.
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(Anonymous) 2018-12-26 03:42 am (UTC)(link)(What's Yuletide btw?)
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I Watched a video about the twitter thread "Women, what would you do if men disappeared for a day?", and when I see all these women utterly convinced that all this great evil in the world is because of me and people like me and they believe that it's just... inherent in men and if men would just disappear all the evil would vanish... well when I see this it just makes me want to open my fucking skull, you know?
I think if I thought this was the way women as a whole thought about men, I might just fucking do it. As it is, delusional or not, I think I can convince myself that this is just an insane fringe feminist belief and most people don't think of me like that.
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(Anonymous) 2018-12-26 04:05 am (UTC)(link)I know how you feel because I have to continually remind myself that mainstream culture is not as batshit far left as fandom, or I'd definitely fall into a deep depression.
I think the average person is pretty moderate. I think most women have fathers, brothers, husbands, etc. who are good people, and they love them dearly and would be very sorry if they disappeared for even a day. I know I would.
The type of attitude you're describing is clearly born of abuse. Sometimes it may seem like abuse is the norm, but I don't think it is. I think most people do the best they can.
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(Anonymous) 2018-12-26 04:34 am (UTC)(link)and with regards to feminism, I think your interpretation of feminism is not necessarily correct as a result of that. Obviously, I can't generalize too much here, and there probably are feminists who think that men are intrinsically evil, but it's not something that you have to believe in order to be a feminist, nor is it really a mainstream view. The point is more that men (and women) are socialized in some really deeply-rooted ways that are deeply shitty to both genders, and also that society as a whole is structured in ways that are fundamentally inequitable and advantageous to men, and that this affects the way that all of us see the world and act in it.
And when it comes to something like "if all the men were gone" - I think the point is less that biological-masculinity is the actual cause of all those problems, and more that the existence of those deeply gendered structures, and men being around to act out those structures, has impacts on an everyday level even in ways that might be invisible to you or me. It's a testament to how pervasive and influential those social structures are, not to anything intrinsic in male nature. Men and women are socialized to believe in certain fundamental ideas and act in certain ways; men and women act within certain social structures; they make decisions based on those ideas and those structures; and the cumulative effect of those decisions can be absolutely massive in its impact on lived existence, even though each individual choice can seem extremely small or even invisible to the person making it. So talking about if "men were gone" is more of a thought experiment to examine the effect that those structures have, as carried out by the individual choices that men make. It's not about some kind of fundamental curse inherent to maleness.
That's not to say that all men are necessarily good, either. Men are still individual human beings. Feminism doesn't rely on men all being evil as a general class of human being in order to operate. And structures and socialization aren't permanent - you can recognize the existence of those structures, you can recognize the patriarchal concepts in your own mind, you can critically examine yourself, and you can change the way that you think and act. And ultimately, we can do all of that on a societal level. That's really the point of saying that none of these things are intrinsic.
I think there are good reasons for people of any gender to be feminists, and I also hope you get any help you need to live a really happy, decent life.
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(Anonymous) 2018-12-26 09:32 am (UTC)(link)You have always. Always. Always. Sought out inflammatory "fringe feminism" to stoke your own coals about how feminists are evil man-haters and oh poor you, you poor man. It is fucking disgusting. It is the worst kind of wallowing self-pity, in the absolute most literal use of the word "wallow", like a pig in its own shit. Pathetically waiting for someone to feel guilty enough to clean you up, just before you tromp back into the pile.
Men are fine. You are the problem.
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(Anonymous) 2018-12-26 12:10 pm (UTC)(link)The parties she throws are nice and fun to attend as a guest but i really do not want one of these for my own.
Told her i don't want a big party and only want to do like a fancy restaurant dinner and radio silence since then. :/
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