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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2008-09-12 04:45 pm

[ SECRET POST #616 ]


⌈ Secret Post #616 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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aberration: NASA Webb image of the Carina nebula (you just can't help yourself)

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[personal profile] aberration 2008-09-12 10:54 pm (UTC)(link)
154. I'm more willing to forgive Elle because it seems really clear from the show that we're supposed to see Noah as in the right in the way he treats her, and Elle's just a bitch who deserves it (not her history, but the way everyone else treats her about it). Their scene in "Untold Stories" drove me insane, because it was like the writers went out of their way to not allow her any agency. And there's no way for her to act against it, because from the way the show puts it, Noah's right, so she'd be wrong. Not letting men treat her like crap would be not going along with her "redemption" arc.

And part of the reason I think this is what we're supposed to be getting from the show is that you're the only other person I've seen complaining about this. I'm hoping against hope that it won't be like that in s3, no matter how it looks, but... well, the spoilers having my brain hurting for about a hundred different reasons.

154 OP

(Anonymous) 2008-09-12 11:40 pm (UTC)(link)
Yes, the show seems to sell this as The Way It Should Be, and this really worries me. What worries me even more is that most fans seem to buy into it, too.
Like you said... no one is complaining, even though they are usually so quick to go on feministic rants about how women are treated on the show.
But Elle's example is worse than, say, Maya's, because the way Sylar treated Maya was clearly shown to be a bad thing. While Bennet's treatment of Elle is downright glorified.

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[identity profile] flyingmhe.livejournal.com 2008-09-12 10:55 pm (UTC)(link)
142. Waitwaitwait, where did you get Takashi Matsu manga? Is it scanlated? DDD:

162. Hey, I loved that movie! :)

[identity profile] sevetenks.livejournal.com 2008-09-12 10:57 pm (UTC)(link)
149. cool story bro

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(Anonymous) 2008-09-12 10:58 pm (UTC)(link)
OH. MY. GOD.

Me tooo! After seeing him in the first Batman movie, I was just-Dayum. He is HOT. I'd do him like woah.

Seriously, forget Joker, forget Batman-actually not really. I love me some Bale.

But Sal? Trumps all. I'm sad he died. Damnit Harvey.

[identity profile] kelleigh.livejournal.com 2008-09-12 11:00 pm (UTC)(link)
114. Well no, he's not hot in that picture. Or pretty. But pretty is a word that weirds me out when applied to men, it's too feminine. Jensen now? IS SMOKIN'.

[identity profile] math-camel.livejournal.com 2008-09-12 11:07 pm (UTC)(link)
126: Moar Iron Man! Always a good battle cry for me. I miss the excitement over this movie, I miss how me and all my friends agreed on its coolness, and how most of the internet liked, and how it produced lots of good fic. Oh well, I can hold out for DVDs or something.

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[identity profile] sir-hellsing.livejournal.com 2008-09-12 11:10 pm (UTC)(link)
105. Try the original novel and the manga adaptation of Trinity Blood. They are far superior, IMO.

163. You misunderstood Tolkien's themes against war plus Eowyn's characterization. It was never about "kickass by the sword" as the Peter Jackson's version appears to have but an unhealthy obsession with a "glorious" end of her life. All characters gave up the sword once there was peace because Tolkien gave more importance to nature and prosperity (hence Sam getting the happy ending Frodo didn't), Faramir was a healing influence in a typical feminine role for Eowyn (who had a more masculine role) to settle down and avoid a tragic end.

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(Anonymous) 2008-09-13 06:51 am (UTC)(link)
No, I got all that, and that theme has nothing to do with the secret. The secret is that I rather that Eowyn's not described as being so beautiful in terms of looks.

105, 108, 111, 120, 134, 163, 166

[identity profile] geministar01.livejournal.com 2008-09-12 11:16 pm (UTC)(link)
105. Heh, I love it when internet karma comes back to do that kind of thing to people. “I hate anime!” (introduce awesome anime show) “…Well, shit.” It’s fun when stuff like that happens, even when it happens to me. ^_^

108. Hm…I think you’re seriously limiting yourself if you say that *all* sex/smut/sexual relationships are unoriginal. There’s been some really good stuff out there that contain that. There is also porn, and true, that takes no originality whatsoever. But all the rest of that is the means to a creative end.

111. Nobody ever ‘grows out’ of fandom. They just grow an interest in politics.
…That’s my story and I’m sticking to it.

120. Ooooh, Maggie/Gumshoe is canon? That makes me grin. ^_^ I haven’t played AA4 yet so I had no idea. Or AA3 for that matter…I have to find it first.

134. I’ve never understood where it is written that a person can’t enjoy both slash *and* het pairings, in the same show and with the same characters. Once you move to a new fan fic/fan art, you ought to have a clean slate of expectations, ne?

163. Auw. You sound like you need a hug.

166. Wow. I’m impressed that you had the balls to come out and admit that you actually watched it, let alone like it. More power to yeh.

[identity profile] fan-of-miggie.livejournal.com 2008-09-12 11:18 pm (UTC)(link)
123. Eee, El Dorado secret!

~*Kelsey*~

[identity profile] inner-ch1ld.livejournal.com 2008-09-12 11:19 pm (UTC)(link)
104. May I have your number?

106. LOL!

109. What about the 'deaf' girl from The Quiet?

140. Mmhm. *watches Heath slam Jake into a wall* Oh yea baby...mmm



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(Anonymous) 2008-09-13 03:02 am (UTC)(link)
I will add you. KEEP IT ON THE D-L

(Anonymous) 2008-09-12 11:21 pm (UTC)(link)
101. I only consider myself "in a fandom" if I've imagined being eaten out by one of the characters. ;)

104. LOLOLOL

108. So crack pairings are unoriginal?

139. A HOT PIECE OF ELEPHANT

149. You fail instantly for hating Nia.

155. Who knows what genitalia Colmes might have?

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(Anonymous) 2008-09-13 09:11 am (UTC)(link)
Is there some sort of rule that everyone -has- to like Nia? I wasn't aware...

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[identity profile] yuumeko.livejournal.com 2008-09-12 11:26 pm (UTC)(link)
137. You. Rock.

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[identity profile] implication.livejournal.com 2008-09-12 11:34 pm (UTC)(link)
134. Nah, we like SuzuLulu at times too. I'm hardcore Suzaku/Euphie, but damn I love Suzu/Lulu as well.
149. I'm surprised you don't have Euphie up there with the way you're hating on the sweeter Geass females. Just because they're not out being terrorists doesn't mean they don't have personalities of their own.
151. =D Yay, Gino/Kallen is adorable.
174. Wesley was one of my favorite characters on TNG as I grew up and I had the most massive crush on him. I can kind of understand why he's such a hated character, but I love him all the same.

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(Anonymous) 2008-09-13 09:14 am (UTC)(link)
Agreed, thank you.

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[identity profile] feenietime.livejournal.com 2008-09-12 11:37 pm (UTC)(link)
120. I've been so busy roleplaying, I must have missed all the wank. o.O I'm happy to just track [livejournal.com profile] anon_press for my occasional fanfiction fix, stalk [livejournal.com profile] boobjection, and keep an eye out for the monthly snap shots. I always liked that the PW fandom was so wank-free and accepting of all pairings, though, so this kind of makes me sad...

(Still a rabid shipper of Phoenix/almost everyone, though. Sorry, anon. :/)

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[identity profile] doumyoujitsukas.livejournal.com 2008-09-12 11:39 pm (UTC)(link)
140. Just saw that movie for the first time in my life about 10 minutes ago. After they stopped kissing about halfway into the movie, I found myself going ,"C'mon...kiss again..." ^^"

[identity profile] sanae.livejournal.com 2008-09-12 11:41 pm (UTC)(link)
124. This one guy came to a party I went to, doing exactly that. I was like :| the whole time.

137. Fuck yes, R.O.D.!

168. Yes.

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[identity profile] xxshebeexx.livejournal.com 2008-09-12 11:50 pm (UTC)(link)
You might as well just have said that you don't like romance or sex of any kind in fanfic.

Simple solution: stick to gen. Or skip the smut scenes. No one's forcing you to read sex! I don't like incest, so I don't read fics that feature it. It's not rocket science.

[identity profile] sukie-neko.livejournal.com 2008-09-12 11:51 pm (UTC)(link)
108. I don't read smut fics usually because its not really my cup of tea. I like my reading to have plot, which a lot of sex fics (that I've skimmed) don't seem to have. But I have to disagree with the no talent required part. Creativity is needed to imagine the sex, you are writing down what you come up with in your head, not what is right in front of you. Even if you have had sex, you have to have the creativity to take that experience and put it down in writing in a way that others will want to read. All writing takes creativity I think. Also, a good fic and all good writing required talent, its not something just anyone can do.

160. I like Shiki a lot more too, but I have to finish TWETY, I'll be bothered if I don't.

Too big 5: WTF? I've never heard of these kind of icons, but to use them is monumentally petty.






ext_81845: penelope, my art/character (SHIT...!)

[identity profile] childings.livejournal.com 2008-09-12 11:55 pm (UTC)(link)
TB!1 You're not the only one. I mean, some of us are actually straight, you know.
105 Why is it that people who aren't into anime always pic the most "OMG ANIME" type of anime to like as their "one anime"?? I had this friend who was super into Blood+ for some random reason, even though she never watched anime at all, and this was about a year before it was licensed, so she had to go out of her way to find fansubs of it. There are plenty of anime with more down-to-earth premises, or more Western themes, plotlines, and structures, but not-anime people always go with the series that just reek of a stereotype.
108 I guess it's prevalent because nobody wants to write fanfiction unless it involves relationships, or else it would be boring. What else is there to write about for most series, really? (And non-sexual romantic fanfic is just as gratitutious... so you might as well write smut).
110 Not every guy like the kind you just described is a rapist. So you can't blame yourself for your rape, it's not your fault. (Though I guess a lot of rape victims probably blame themselves for it, but still, you shouldn't.)
115 People were hating her hardcore even before eps 20 and 21. I don't get it either. I still maintain that people would hate Minmei hardcore if the original Macross was airing today, with the internet and fansubs and everything. Of course, some people still hate Minmei, even though she matures by the end of the show and you know, fucking saves humanity and everything.
126 Personally I would rather fuck Tony Stark over anyone in the whole Gotham universe.
127 KAWORU IS THE ANGEL OF FREE WILL (TABLIS). He can't be "evil". That's like saying offering someone a choice is evil. I still think people would do better to know something about Jewish mythology before delving into that series hardcore, since it borrows a lot from it.
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I loved that guy! It's like that actor was born to play a mobster, he did such a good job as the character.
139 You're an idiot.
140 I hope this is a joke.
162 That movie makes anyone with any understanding of astronomy or astrophysics cringe. Actually, the only thing good about it was Cillian Murphy. And I usually like Danny Boyle movies.

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[identity profile] cavechan.livejournal.com 2008-09-13 12:06 am (UTC)(link)
115: I actually just finished original Macross about a month ago. I adored Minmay! ^^ I've also disliked Ranka since episode 1. Not a fan of that type of character. >.>

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[identity profile] scarletumbrella.livejournal.com 2008-09-12 11:58 pm (UTC)(link)
122 - HELL. YES.

126 - Mmm. Agreed.

146 - MIB reference ftw. :D

156 - obsessedwithbones.com - Great alternative. :)

156 OP

(Anonymous) 2008-09-13 11:36 am (UTC)(link)
Thank you. Truly.

[identity profile] shesarebelyell.livejournal.com 2008-09-12 11:58 pm (UTC)(link)
110. I love this movie too. x.x And whenever you tell someone you love it, they think there's something wrong with you. XD And honestly, Patrick Bateman is a hilariously realistic character... most people don't believe that, but it's true. I'm sorry for what happened to you, though.

122. He's awesome in EVERY role. ;; He's so awesome I'm scared they won't be able to find someone awesome enough to be the female lead for him in the third Batman movie. x.x;

125. I saw this movie on a whim and I actually liked it. I like her a lot too, in fact I enjoyed her more than any other Star Wars female I've had thrown in my face. Seriously, that movie was no worse than any of the live action movies, and I mean ANY of them. I'm not a Star Wars fan girl so I can say that unbiasedly. I kind of wish they did something with Ahsoka in Rise of the Sith (Or Part III or whatever) now. D:

126. I really enjoyed Iron Man too, RDJ really carried the movie. Where as in Dark Knight, the movie wasn't carried by any one actor, but by FOUR actors. XD Bale, Ledger, Eckhart and Oldman(You know it's true, bitches!).

127. I wish he was introduced slightly earlier. I couldn't appreciate him much because of how late he enters the series. I know it HAD to be that way for obvious reasons, but still. ;;

134. I just watched the first episode actually, and I LOOOVEEE C.C. for some reason, but Lelouch is boring me, much like most main, male anime characters do. x.x I like Suzaku better so far...

146. Here here, that reminds me of Mulan. "The last bud to blossom is always the most beautiful."

153. Emby Quinn? Haven't seen that name in awhile.

169. Lawl, I can never truly be apart of most fandoms because I honestly only enjoy pairings that would make SOME sense in the canon. I'm boring, I know.

173. I wish I loved it slightly less, and I wish I didn't have a text book knowledge of the plot and dialogue in it. XD It's embaressing sometimes when I go off on a tangent.

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[identity profile] paperclipchains.livejournal.com 2008-09-13 12:47 am (UTC)(link)
Seriously. I just want to look skyward and announce to the universe that I'm quite ready for something new to fall into my lap. Preferably something worth more nerd brownie points with less crazy fangirls that I have to pretend I'm not associated with.

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(Anonymous) 2008-09-13 12:01 am (UTC)(link)
You don't like "cannon" for "canon", but you have no problem with writing "adorable" as "adoreable".

Well done on stuffing up your argument. That's what you call an "own goal", dear...
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[identity profile] childings.livejournal.com 2008-09-13 12:03 am (UTC)(link)
I think they did that on purpose

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[identity profile] cavechan.livejournal.com 2008-09-13 12:03 am (UTC)(link)
115: Uhm no. I just hate her. (Well, mostly. She is kinda cute, but mostly just an annoying brat.) I understand that's what her character's supposed to be, but... I can't help just wanting to slap her so damn hard. :)

Not quite sure what you mean by the other characters not acting their age. The only person I could see like that would be Alto probably. (Seems like they barely ever go to school anyway.) But he's kinda of a prissy bitch. lol

(Anonymous) 2008-09-13 12:47 am (UTC)(link)
I don't mind people not liking her from the start. What I mind is people suddenly being OMG DISAPPOINTED or OMG FULL OF HATRED because Ranka did something that was completely understandable to anyone with half a brain and an ounce of empathy, not to mention completely in-character.

By not acting their age I meant mostly Alto and Sheryl. I like Sheryl a lot, but the way she's presented she's not a convincing sixteen-year-old (or is she 17?) to me. Neither are the boys, but that's to be expected, sort of, from a mecha anime.

[identity profile] samoansneakers.livejournal.com 2008-09-13 12:06 am (UTC)(link)
WHY ARE ALL MY FAVORITE BANDS ON F!S TODAY
SERIOUSLY, IT'S FANTASTIC.

Oh, and multiple House secrets. That's what I like to see.

(Anonymous) 2008-09-13 12:11 am (UTC)(link)
104. Now I want fic for all those. Damn.

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