[ SECRET POST #6028 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #6028 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.


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[Kill la Kill]



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[Back From the Brink]



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[(Anonymous)]

Amen.

[(Anonymous)]

Fandom is not activism. And fandom would be a much happier and more welcoming place if people stopped pretending otherwise.

[(Anonymous)]

I remember back when fandom wasn't automatically activism. It was definitely better. I miss those days.

DA

[(Anonymous)]

We are all turning into little old fandom olds spouting "back in my day..."

...but yeah, you're not wrong.

[(Anonymous)]

It was always activism, you were just lucky enough not to be in the group under scrutiny.

[(Anonymous)]

Well, the more people get sick of hearing bullshit about how fandom "should" be activism, the sooner people get over it and reply to future attempts to make them ashamed of their fun with "no." And I've seen this happening, and I'm glad.

[(Anonymous)]

Everything is either activism or abandonment. We don't live in a world which has neutrality as a concept anymore. "Neutrality" favors the oppressor.

[(Anonymous)]

NAYRT

How very capitalist of you. You're never allowed to rest, you're never allowed to play, you must always be working on something for the enrichment of others. Otherwise you're the "oppressor."

[(Anonymous)]

Sadly we don't get to call the game, we can only play it. As unfair as it is right now, it is the case you are representation, good or bad, whether we want to be or not. So suck it up and be the best you can, and one day this will pass and some other poor cow will be in the hot seat instead.

[(Anonymous)]

????

I'm not even sure what you're trying to say here.

[(Anonymous)]

Well then you are being a little bit thick

[(Anonymous)]

DA

I have no idea what that's supposed to mean, either.

Also, I wouldn't trust anyone who's refering to whoever they think they're talking to as a cow. Or, for that matter, who thinks "shut up and take it" is in any way a reasonable argument.

[(Anonymous)]

It's always women who have to work to make others comfortable. Meanwhile sports fans get to destroy a city after a game...

[(Anonymous)]

Same as it ever was, same as it will ever be.

[(Anonymous)]

I don't think so. As shitty as things are in some ways, they've gotten a lot better in others.

[(Anonymous)]

Agreed. We don't always have to be moving upwards when we progress as a society. We have to allow ourselves to just exist and develop our experiences before we can determine what are the best methods to help ourselves and society. It takes time. I know things are always moving but every single thing we do doesn't always have to be about politics/activism of some kind.

[(Anonymous)]

Mostly I'm just fed up with the (apparently widespread) belief that everything women do is "lesser".

[(Anonymous)]

OP, when you talk about doing something for yourself (like shipping slash), are you, you know, doing something nice for yourself? Or are you taking moments out of your day to trash on everything that *isn't* slash?

Because there are qualitative differences to those two approaches. It's often not what a person loves that folk take issue with - it's what they be loudly hating.

[(Anonymous)]

Folks constantly take issue with loving slash on its own. Sometimes they will claim that it's because slash fans loudly hate female characters for being in the way, but this is a largely baseless strawman that died ten or more years ago. They hide behind this strawman to have an acceptable reason to rag on slash fans who are really just minding their own business. There's also the equally baseless accusation that slash fans are fetishizing gay men. Again slash fans are minding their own business and get comments accusing them of being nasty old straight ladies for writing in their own spaces about men having sex.

So no, there is no response to hate required for people to take issue with someone enjoying something in fandom. It's not just slash either, that was just one example. People in fandom get angry very easily when other people simply like something they don't. "How dare you like things I don't like!" isn't a sarcastic meme for nothing.

[(Anonymous)]

All of this.

[(Anonymous)]

I mind my own business, but I'm beyond tired of being told what characters other (mostly female) fans are morally obligated to like, what ships (and types of ships) other fans are morally obligated to ship, what porn other people are morally obligated to read, what headcanons they allowed to have, etc. with snide insinuations that if those fans don't do what the pontificator/activist wants them to, it can only be because they must be racist, misogynist, transphobic, biphobic, homophobic, etc., etc., etc. It's the constant assumption of bad faith of anyone in transformative (which again, is mostly female) who doesn't toe the line some fandom moralizer has decided to set. Maybe one time in twenty, there might be something racist or homophobic or whatever going on, but the other 19 it's just the same old ship war and character stanning bullshit trying to dress itself up in SJ terminology. I am sick and tired of fandom activists acting like any personal preference that other fans might have that doesn't line up with their own is somehow bad or insidious.

This is especially true when it comes to things like shipping where who an individual finds attractive very often plays a part. Sexual attraction is a very private, personal thing, and no one owes any particular person or group of people their personal sexual interest, let alone imaginary characters who don't even exist. No individual fan owes other fans the specific fanworks they want. Fandom is for fun, and as long as someone isn't being a dick to someone else they should get to play the way they want to. Be kind, have fun, and keep in mind that other fans' fandom lives do not have to revolve around you or your faves.

While there is a conversation to be had about societal standards of attractiveness, I don't think shaming and guilt-tripping other individual fans for not fangirling the proper, progressive way is a productive way to go about it. It may get people to be quiet about personal preferences/ships that the moralizer doesn't like, but they won't be happy and they definitely won't want to play in the moralizer's sandbox. Just let other people like what they like, and make your corner of fandom a fun place to play. It may not be a big place, but the people in it will be genuinely interested in the character/pairing and they'll be happy.

[(Anonymous)]

I very much agree. But also, I was totally one of Those Fans from about 19 to 23 (aka a long time ago). I mean, I was being one of Those Fans on my own livejournal page, so like, the fact that I was judgmental, tiresome, and pretentious within my own personal online space was my prerogative. But god, I wince at past me's obnoxiousness.

[(Anonymous)]

Preach! And then block!

[(Anonymous)]

I'd be happier about fandom activism if fandom activism accomplished anything. The only thing "fandom activism" has done is given randos license to be mean to each other online, which is not different from the usual landscape and does nothing for anyone.