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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2013-09-13 07:00 pm

[ SECRET POST #2446 ]


⌈ Secret Post #2446 ⌋

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[How To Train Your Dragon]


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[Fall Out Boy's "The Phoenix"]


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[personal profile] insanenoodlyguy 2013-09-13 11:41 pm (UTC)(link)
Yeah, but not giving to crazy bloggers doesn't qualify.

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(Anonymous) 2013-09-13 11:51 pm (UTC)(link)
Oh, absolutely. It was more of a general point.

But, yeah, I actually don't understand how anyone gives money to people they've never even met :/ It's kind of reassuring about the human race, actually- that they'll give money to someone 'in need'* whether their need can be verified or not.

*tbh, I don't really get how people have the audacity to ask strangers to pay their rent for them. It's a regular, monthly payment and if you haven't got your finances together, that is your fault (generally speaking- I know shit happens). Get a roommate. Move back in with your parents. Move in with a friend. Get a second job (or get a job in the first place!) Get a more affordable place. There are so many options that aren't 'beg random people on the internet'.

I do understand, however, when people ask for money for urgent medical bills and things like that.

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(Anonymous) 2013-09-14 12:24 am (UTC)(link)
Get a second job (or get a job in the first place!)

Annnd this is where privileged does, sort of, step in and color things. It's not that simple for everyone. Some people are idiots and turn down jobs they've been offered and have made their own beds. However, a lot of us *don't* - we just don't get offers to begin with for whatever reason.

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(Anonymous) 2013-09-14 04:09 am (UTC)(link)
Yeah, but if you're living in an apartment by yourself and you don't have a job, that's not a privilege issue, that's a stupidity issue. Lots of people don't have jobs, and they make do by losing the luxury of their own apartment. It happens.

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(Anonymous) 2013-09-14 04:20 am (UTC)(link)
A place to live isn't a fucking luxury.

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(Anonymous) 2013-09-14 04:53 am (UTC)(link)
Living on your own in this economy, without a fucking job? Yes it is.

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(Anonymous) 2013-09-14 04:56 am (UTC)(link)
Only because of people like you, sweetie.

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(Anonymous) 2013-09-14 04:58 am (UTC)(link)
Oh ho, this should be interesting. What kind of person do you think I am, exactly?

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[personal profile] anonymouslyyours 2013-09-14 04:57 am (UTC)(link)
By yourself. A place to live by yourself is.

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(Anonymous) 2013-09-14 05:13 am (UTC)(link)
Not if it's the only option available to you. Which it is for many people who don't have parents or friends they can move in with, and can't find a roommate who isn't a drug dealer.

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(Anonymous) 2013-09-14 04:46 am (UTC)(link)
I live on my own and don't have a job due to my social anxiety and depression. Man, I'm so stupid!

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(Anonymous) 2013-09-14 04:48 am (UTC)(link)
Yeah, disabled people apparently don't exist in Magic Libertarian Bullshit Land.

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(Anonymous) 2013-09-14 04:52 am (UTC)(link)
Tough shit.

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Yeah, calling troll. Good one, you really had us going there.

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[personal profile] deaalmon 2013-09-14 01:10 pm (UTC)(link)
I think the difference here would be are you then begging for money on the internet to pay your living expenses or are you capable of providing for yourself? As long as you are financially secure enough for whatever reason that you can support your solitary living arrangement, then that's fine. When you're having to beg others for money, that's when it becomes necessary to consider you might be living beyond your means.

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(Anonymous) 2013-09-14 12:25 am (UTC)(link)
tbh, I don't really get how people have the audacity to ask strangers to pay their rent for them. It's a regular, monthly payment and if you haven't got your finances together, that is your fault (generally speaking...

With the best budgeting skills, it would still take some time for a person working a minimum wage job to accumulate that "4 months' worth of expenses" that we're told to lay by as an emergency fund, and if an emergency overtakes them in the meantime--illness or injury, layoff, natural disaster--it could wipe out whatever savings they had. So I can see a basically responsible person suddenly having to ask for help to make rent. Not everybody can go home to live with their folks or find a second job at short notice.

But "I hate privileged people who don't understand what it's like to be poor"--coming from the OP's friend, that sounds disingenuous, because blowing $300 on an impulse purchase seems a lot more like the act of someone who has always been comfortably off and has never had to budget their money.
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[personal profile] nyxelestia 2013-09-14 04:20 am (UTC)(link)
I think one of the problems is that while there are plenty of people who are in that situation of making minimum wage and having no back-ups, friends, family, safety nets, or other options to turn to...these usually aren't the people you see begging their followers for rent on Tumblr.

Granted, about half of the financial requests I see on Tumblr aren't a problem - they're either real emergencies (pet needs medical care, lost a job and just finished off the savings, etc) that are isolated incidents, and/or they're commission based (i.e. I need a new laptop, chip in and I'll make you fanart as soon as I get it).

But the other half of them are people who need help paying the rent or bills, yet seem to have enough money for things like cosplaying, merch, conventions, etc, and unfortunately the latter group seems to be growing, and at an increasingly rapid pace. I understand that it's not always feasible to just put your life on hold when you are trying to sort through your life circumstances and finances and stuff, but at the same time, priorities - making rent is a hell of a lot more important than a cosplay outfit or going to a convention.

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(Anonymous) 2013-09-14 04:25 am (UTC)(link)
That's true, and I had a roommate like that (so, you know, getting a roommate isn't always the better option). But what you're saying is a far cry from the anon above insisting that if you have money problems, it's almost always your fault. That's classist libertarian bullshit logic and I wish it would die off already.

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(Anonymous) 2013-09-14 02:13 am (UTC)(link)
*tbh, I don't really get how people have the audacity to ask strangers to pay their rent for them. It's a regular, monthly payment and if you haven't got your finances together, that is your fault (generally speaking- I know shit happens). Get a roommate. Move back in with your parents. Move in with a friend. Get a second job (or get a job in the first place!) Get a more affordable place. There are so many options that aren't 'beg random people on the internet'.

And this is where I tell you "shut your hole for a second and listen" because not everyone can do that. Not everyone has parents or friends they can move in with. The legal ramifications of roommates can actually screw you over worse. "More affordable places" are very often in dangerous neighborhoods (and it costs money to move). "Getting a (second) job" is not as easy as you make it sound, especially if you have children or are a student.

Generally speaking, shit happens far more than you think, and more often than not people who are in bad financial straits got there through no fault of their own.

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(Anonymous) 2013-09-14 02:56 am (UTC)(link)
But that is the way of the history of the world. I think today we have been conditioned to expect help (from our parents or the government) that we have no coping skills when things get tough. What did our grandparents do before there were things like welfare and other forms of government aid? What do people in third world countries do? It's hard to imagine and someday, when/if society implodes we may be forced to face some extremely harsh realities.

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(Anonymous) 2013-09-14 04:19 am (UTC)(link)
Very simple: they got sick and they died.

And no, there is nothing wrong with asking for help when you need it because your boss cut your hours or your company switched to those paycard things whose fees eat up almost 20% of your very tiny paycheck or some other nonsense.

I am sick and fucking tired of people demonizing the poor for being poor. You want someone to blame? Blame the fucking cheapskate employers who pay their workers shit and cut benefits so the company brass can get that $3 million bonus at the end of the year.
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[personal profile] nyxelestia 2013-09-14 04:28 am (UTC)(link)
You and the AYRT have a point.

On one hand, many of us live in cultures that demonize being poor. We do live in shitty systems that often make even surviving day to day difficult, and yes, there are absolutely people who struggle just to make ends meet. I don't think anyone is denying that.

On the other hand...there is a big difference between being in that situation, and needing to beg people to help you pay rent after spending a lot of money on things like merchandise or a cosplay outfit. And unfortunately, people in the latter situation are starting to outnumber people in the former situation, which is why some people are starting to get upset with this trend in the first place.

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(Anonymous) 2013-09-14 04:32 am (UTC)(link)
On one hand, many of us live in cultures that demonize being poor. We do live in shitty systems that often make even surviving day to day difficult, and yes, there are absolutely people who struggle just to make ends meet. I don't think anyone is denying that.

Except AIRT, who flat-out did deny it.

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(Anonymous) 2013-09-14 04:29 am (UTC)(link)
Yeah, but that doesn't really apply to asshole tumblr idiots who buy expensive merchandise, then complains that they're too poor to afford rent. They know when the rent is due. They should budget better. If they can afford hundreds of dollars worth of toys, they can afford rent.

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(Anonymous) 2013-09-14 04:31 am (UTC)(link)
Yes, but that's not what AIRT said. AIRT said that "if you haven't got your finances together, that is your fault." And that's bullshit.