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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2015-02-11 05:58 pm

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[personal profile] fscom 2015-02-11 11:05 pm (UTC)(link)
Image: rear view of Steve Rogers

Text: I'm pretty sure that 99% of slash writers are butt-virgins.

(Not MCU-specific. I just chose this image because if I'm gonna make a secret about butts, why not use a nice one?)

(Anonymous) 2015-02-11 11:12 pm (UTC)(link)
I figure plenty are virgins period.

(Anonymous) 2015-02-11 11:13 pm (UTC)(link)
Probably true. I also bet most slash writers aren't actually gay men too. The bastards!

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(Anonymous) 2015-02-11 11:19 pm (UTC)(link)
I write gay romance and I'm an ace woman. I'm not gonna say that always makes sense to me, but that's where I'm at.

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(Anonymous) 2015-02-11 11:19 pm (UTC)(link)
Yeah, of all the slash writers that I know, which is a bit, though limited to a few fandoms, not one of them has admitted to anal sex (and they're almost all exclusively straight women)

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(Anonymous) 2015-02-11 11:21 pm (UTC)(link)
Depends on what corners of fandom you lurk in. It's really hard to get an overall view of the whole of fandom when it's so fragmented.

As a rule of thumb, fanfic writers tend to be older than their readers. If you said 99% of fanfic readers, perhaps.

Fanfic writers tend to be older and have had more time to try a variety of sexual activities. Of the fanfic writers I've read who write anal sex? I'm guessing quite a few have tried it.

(Anonymous) 2015-02-11 11:22 pm (UTC)(link)
Not gonna lie, I was always fine with basing the sex (butt- and otherwise) in my fic on other fic, fandom discussions, and internet-based research in general.

But now I'm working on an original novel that I'd like to publish when it's done, and I'm finding myself feeling massively insecure about the porny bits. Even though there's plenty of other stuff in there that I also don't have much or any personal experience with. D:

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(Anonymous) 2015-02-11 11:24 pm (UTC)(link)
I'm a lesbian and I write slash.

*explosions*

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[personal profile] feotakahari 2015-02-11 11:27 pm (UTC)(link)
As a panicky virgin who always worried I was writing sex wrong, it's kind of bizarre to reread old popular stories now that I know a little more about the mechanics. Turns out a lot of folks got tons of faves and comments who weren't even trying to get the anatomy right.
Edited 2015-02-11 23:27 (UTC)

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(Anonymous) 2015-02-11 11:31 pm (UTC)(link)
Eh, so?

(Anonymous) 2015-02-11 11:44 pm (UTC)(link)
I find it weir that to everyone here, slash = always butt!sex to everyone so far in the comments seemingly without question...seems odd to me. That's not all slash is, surely? Maybe in some fandoms...

Has anyone read this excellent blog post by a gay man who writes gay romance that doesn't always equal anal?

http://jamiefessenden.com/2013/01/13/even-in-gay-romance-love-does-not-always-have-to-equal-anal-sex/

(Please don't spam him. He's a nice person.)

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(Anonymous) 2015-02-11 11:45 pm (UTC)(link)
One of my dearest friends is a gay man that finds the absolute obsession with "preparation" hilarious. He's told me about the many times he and his boyfriend couldn't be assed (har!) with it, and just used whatever happened to be nearby at the time as some form of lube to get straight to the ramming. My personal favorite statement: "Beer was a bad idea."

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[personal profile] caerbannog 2015-02-11 11:54 pm (UTC)(link)
Probably, but I'm not seeing the problem here.

I kind of doubt it.

(Anonymous) 2015-02-11 11:57 pm (UTC)(link)
There are some men that write slash. There are a lot of women that write slash - why would they be any less prone to trying out anal sex than the general population? [Among adults aged 25–44, 36% of women a ever had anal sex with an opposite-sex partner. From Sexual Behavior, Sexual Attraction, and Sexual Identity in the United States: Data From the 2006–2008 National Survey of Family Growth]

I'm female. I've written slash and done anal stuff. I've also read Minotaur's sex tips.

The funny thing is, you can have all kinds of sexual experience and it can be different from what others have experienced. And I'm not talking about anatomy fail (though some people don't have typical anatomy), I'm talking about lube (yes, sometimes actual people use not-so-great substitutes for lube and they don't end up horribly damaged) or stretching (sometimes, actual people are fine without it) or sensations or whatever.

Re: I kind of doubt it.

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(Anonymous) 2015-02-12 12:04 am (UTC)(link)
I always feel so bad for people who are exclusively attracted to men, most men's asses are very much lacking in substance, so to speak

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(Anonymous) 2015-02-12 12:07 am (UTC)(link)
I'm also convinced that 99.99% of people who write about murder have neither murdered someone, known someone who's been murdered, or known a murderer.

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[personal profile] forgottenjester 2015-02-12 12:19 am (UTC)(link)


I'm sorry. I can't stop giggling. I'm stuck on the term "Butt Virgin".
nightscale: Starbolt (Marvel: Captain Rogers)

[personal profile] nightscale 2015-02-12 12:25 am (UTC)(link)
A+ butt choice OP. I have nothing else to add.

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(Anonymous) 2015-02-12 01:20 am (UTC)(link)
Assuming that most slash fic writer are also female, they can have anal sex every hour on the hour, they're still never going to be able to know what it feels to do so with a prostate.

Should they have some kind of implant or transplant before they're qualfiied to write men having anal sex?

What about those who write about clitoral orgasms who've never had a clitoris, what should they do?

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(Anonymous) 2015-02-12 01:52 am (UTC)(link)
Eh. Pretty much all my female friends (who I'm close enough to that I would hear about it) have at least tried anal sex. Many of them love it. I don't think it's nearly as uncommon as people think.

(Anonymous) 2015-02-12 02:03 am (UTC)(link)
God, Steve is so hot it's almost painful.
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[personal profile] beverlykatz 2015-02-12 03:52 am (UTC)(link)
Yeah, as I've gotten older and more experienced, it's become clear that a lot of fic authors just... don't know a lot about sex. Some of it is rule of porn, which I'm fine with - some of the, uh, more realistic aspects of anal sex are not terribly sexy - but some of it just makes me wonder if they understand how human bodies fit together. Research is a fine substitute, but reading other anatomically creative fanfiction isn't actually research.

Also, the prostate is not a bundle of nerves. It is a gland. That's still my ultimate pet peeve.

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(Anonymous) 2015-02-12 04:01 am (UTC)(link)
Me, too, anon. Mostly because OH THE PAIN THE PAIN. If it's painful, I'd say don't do it. I've never had a lick of pain. But also because of how most never include the butt cheeks as part of the affair. It's like the asshole is just hanging out on a flat surface. Also, rimming scenes tend to be unrealistic as well because of same and the strength of the sphincter. Rimming is plain exhausting. But fun.
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Like a Virgin

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BUTT for the Very First TIME!

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