[ SECRET POST #3420 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #3420 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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Comments

[fscom]

05. http://i.imgur.com/xLf9DBV.png

[bigpaw]

Ok but I really want her to be gay

[(Anonymous)]

Cool

That'd be cool

[(Anonymous)]

me, too.

please Disney please

there will be a Frozen sequel apparently (well duh, but it's been officially announced) so fingers crossed I guess? Not that Disney has any balls with this stuff but they've had a few minor background canon gay characters. Actually even Frozen had a canon gay character right? The shop keeper?

[(Anonymous)]

Little rude to say that. She said she wants Elsa one way but then you're all "looool ok no, I want her to be a Lesbian." You could have at least said "It's fine you want it that way. I want her to be a lesbian though."

[(Anonymous)]

As another aroace, I don't want Elsa to have a girlfriend because I want her to get together with Kristoff. A bit because of the way he reacted when he saw her ice castle, but mostly because the Anna/Kristoff romance shits all over the point they were trying to make with Hans. They might say that "true love doesn't have to be romantic", but they sure as hell couldn't follow it up with "and you don't need romance to have a happily ever after".

[(Anonymous)]

I don't think Anna/Kristoff shits all over the Hans thing. I agree that it was still a fast romance, but they weren't a love at first sight situation, and did get to know each other somewhat first. And they never declared love in that movie, only kissed at the very very end - so I assume they're dating (and it's certainly fine for them to start dating after their adventure), but they never made marriage proposals or anything.

[(Anonymous)]

As an introvert I ship her with Kistoff because I just can't picture Anna and Kristoff being happy together. He's portrayed as an introvert who likes spending a lot of time alone and spending time with people in short bursts with recovery time. Anna is an extreme extrovert.

Anna would be happier with someone who actively enjoys dances and parties and huge social gatherings, not with someone who at best tolerates them. Introvert/Extrovert pairings can work! But they take a ton of work and you really have to be motivated and accept that you're very different people and that's ok.

The only situation they met in was a rushing weird end-of-the-world sort of situation and I just can't see them having a lot in common otherwise.

But with Elsa I could picture them spending quiet evenings sitting around, him playing the lute and her reading and just quietly enjoying each-other's company. Just my own thoughts

[(Anonymous)]

Please consider therapy.

[(Anonymous)]

no u

[feotakahari]

You've got to admit, it would be a bit stereotypical to have the aromantic asexual literally be frigid.

[(Anonymous)]

Olaf does it with an icicle.

[(Anonymous)]

She probably won't be either tbh, because China.

[(Anonymous)]

I think it would be awkward now for her to get a boyfriend, and since her being gay is likely not gonna happen, well... You might get what you want.

[(Anonymous)]

I'd love for her to be asexual because I am too, but I wouldn't mind her having a girlfriend. Since I doubt Disney will do either one, I'd prefer her to just stay single.

[(Anonymous)]

i feel like kids would understand being aromantic/asexual way more than adults would
"i dont wanna get married or fall in love or kiss anyone or ever make babies"
kids like "okay"

[(Anonymous)]

I understand why asexual people - and other minorities who what makes them different is on the inside, not the outside - can relate with her.

As a lesbian though, Elsa read so clearly as a lesbian that I'm still sure the parallels were intentional, even if never becomes canon. Let It Go was a coming out anthem, and the fear of oppression, etc... I think there's a reason that so many gay people immediately read her as gay, it just really hit home.

While I do think having more Disney princesses without boyfriends would be awesome, I really want Elsa to be the gay one. I so wish Disney will just go for it. I doubt they will, but I at least hope Elsa never gets a boyfriend and they continue to at least include lesbian subtext.

[(Anonymous)]

I'd rather she not have a love interest but not because she's gay, straight, ace, or whatever. I just want the story to be on her powers and ruling and something that isn't romance.

[crossy_woad]

I feel like kids understand it better than adults? Like, a kid says "I don't like boys and I don't want to get married" and so many adults will just smirk and say "Don't worry...you will! You'll like boys when you're older!" Like marriage and romance (straight only tho) is a cult everybody has to join in a mindless lockstep drone past a certain age. Most kids are a bit more open-minded, frankly.

[(Anonymous)]

Your secret is exactly why I don't particularly like or get along with aroace people, tbh.

At least you have some self-awareness that you don't really need representation. A lot of the aroace people on tumblr do not have this awareness and are extremely homophobic and whiny about their lack of representation and act like gay people are oppressing them.

[(Anonymous)]

OP, you say that aro/ace people aren't the ones in the most need of representation right now. I'm curious to know why you think this.

I'm aro/ace, and personally I've never particularly wanted representation (for other aro/ace people's sake, yes, but for my own personal sake, I'm just not interested). That said, I'm also not sure I consider ace people less in need of representation than LGB people (as opposed to about equal).

Though I am open to hearing civil arguments about why that is not the case. Like if, for example, someone believed that more fictional LGB representation would make horrible, homophobic "religious freedom" bills less likely to pass, then that would be a very good argument for why having fictional LGB representation in the media is more important right now than having asexual representation. I'm just not personally convinced that fictional representation will have much impact on things like government legislation.

[(Anonymous)]

Well, at least you're "aware" that you're being an entitled asshole.

[(Anonymous)]

How about she gets a girlfriend and you can headcanon her as a romantic asexual since it's a kid's movie and it's not like there's going to be any sexual content anyway?

[(Anonymous)]

I like the campaign because it pisses off all the right people right now.

OP here!

[(Anonymous)]

I just want to clarify that this is my only post in this entire thread so far, as judging by some of the responses, I think some people think I was their angry anon. I've been busy all day and only just got to check F!S.

As for why I think aro/aces are less in need of representation, it's like some other people have said: we're not the ones who get assaulted, bullied, kicked out, fired, or put through conversion therapy. 13-year-olds on the internet don't say "that's so ace" when they mean "that's dumb". We don't even have a slur associated with us. We're invisible, and while that's not ideal and I'd like it to change someday, the prejudice we receive is passive, not active; it's obliviousness, not hatred. It isn't the same as being murdered or having people picket our existence or tell us to kill ourselves.

(Maybe I'm being unfair to my fellow aro/aces by saying this, though. I tend to feel like I specifically, and my problems, are less important than other people's, which sometimes leads to me saying things I might not say in the context of anybody else's life.)

More representation, especially in media aimed at children, is one method of hacking away at homophobia. It's slow. It's subtle. But I think it does something. A lesbian character who is well-rounded and portrayed positively takes a tiny bit away from the stereotypes and gunk that people kinda take for granted. No, TV shows won't do much on the federal level, but the more we can normalize the presence of LGBTQIA+ people, the better.

Really, the only reason the thought of a gay Elsa annoys me is because...it's not my headcanon. That's all. Tbh, I think I'd be outright pissed if they made Elsa straight. I don't automatically notice the parallels, but I can see them when they're pointed out, and yeah, her role is pretty much coded as "gay character is outed". I wouldn't be satisfied, but it would fit and I'd accept it.